Getting hyper loop vibes...
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@Dragoon If I grew up on a farm large enough to grow corn, have an orchard, and raise several different kinds of farm animal, that's pretty rural in my book.
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@abarker well one is a nationality, the other is believing in an economic principle.
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@lucas1 Everything changed when the capitalist nation attacked
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@hungrier and then the murders began?
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Dragoon If I grew up on a farm large enough to grow corn, have an orchard, and raise several different kinds of farm animal, that's pretty rural in my book.
Sounds like all sorts of farms near me, and I'm within 10 miles of two different Targets and three different Wal-Marts, and two movie theaters. Stretch that out 5 miles more, you can add another Wal-Mart, a Costco, another movie theater, a Sam's Club, and all sorts of other commercial stuff.
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@masonwheeler
Funny, that is the type of ranch (we didn't grow crops for profit, so technically a ranch) I grew up on. About 2miles outside of Golden Colorado (and at the time, not the only one out there).Rural isn't just how small the town is you are near, it is also how far away you are from things. When the nearest place to buy anything that isn't grown locally is 20+ miles away, you can call it rural.
Further, while I have no idea on the mail route, one of the bus routes for my school was at ~75 miles. Having to go up a canyon and back down it only to have to up another canyon adds up quickly.
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Everything changed when the capitalist nation attacked
I am sure this is the plot of Rocky IV?
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@Dragoon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
When the nearest place to buy anything that isn't grown locally is 20+ miles away, you can call it
ruralAlaskan wilderness.FTFY
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@Dragoon The thing is that Rural in the UK means very different things from the USA. I live in one of the few national parks in the UK and I can get a delivery from dominoes.
I have hunted, I have worked on a farm. But I can cycle to the "city" in 20 minutes.
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@abarker You do know they improved a lot more things besides just rocket retrieval, right? (That was the most newsworthy one, but far from their only accomplishment...)
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@masonwheeler
Yeah, or just most of the US that isn't on the coast.Though I should retract the statement of 20miles and change it to 20minutes. I was thinking as you drive not as the crow flies, so 20minutes seems to fit better.
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@Dragoon It was around 45 minutes to the nearest Interstate, if that helps... :P
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@boomzilla said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Perverted_Vixen Yeah, forty minutes is a long time. Most uncomfortable.
Exceedingly so yes.
Not only that but it's about twice as long as the batteries in my favorite distraction device last, so i couldn't even distract myself for the whole time and get some enjoyment out of it.
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@masonwheeler @Dragoon
Why don't you ask a two Scotmen who is more Scottish? ;-) It will be just as productive.
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@lucas1 No true Scotsman would fall for a question like that...
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@masonwheeler he would if he drunk enough Whiskey
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
It would have to be less than that to be truly practical. I have covered 600-700 miles in a day driving for vacations.
I think my longest day was 900mi... I'm too old for that now - plus I've had blood clots and a pulmonary embolism, so many more stops needed now.
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@Groaner said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
Who drives at 55mph anyway?
I do. When towing my trailer in CA. Oh, ok - 60.
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@lucas1 said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Groaner I normally drive on a motorway much faster. M40 average speed is about 95mph. I was in the slow lane by doing a more sensible 80-90.
In the UK cops won't pull you over unless you are doing over 100 it seems.
I think you mean kph. You do 95mph pretty much anywhere in the US and you'll be thrown in jail for reckless driving.
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Dragoon If I grew up on a farm large enough to grow corn, have an orchard, and raise several different kinds of farm animal, that's pretty rural in my book.
We have that 1/4 mile from my house and I live 12 minutes from the very center of a metropolitan area of more than a million people.
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@dcon I live in the UK.
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@dcon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
You do 95mph pretty much anywhere in the US and you'll be thrown in jail for reckless driving.
You haven't been to most of the US it seems.
Plenty of areas still have the posted speed limit at 75, so 20 over is only a ticket (depending on where you are, not even a mandatory court appearance).
I have been doing 105mph on I-25 and been passed by police.
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tb1ngTYl60
???
I am not watching bubblegum country. Got a TR;DW version?
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
bubblegum country.
???
Got a TR;DW version?
The city's growing to encompass what used to be pure farmland, but this guy's family is stubbornly sticking to their farming no matter how much it inconveniences the urban neighbors.
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@dcon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@lucas1 said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Groaner I normally drive on a motorway much faster. M40 average speed is about 95mph. I was in the slow lane by doing a more sensible 80-90.
In the UK cops won't pull you over unless you are doing over 100 it seems.
I think you mean kph. You do 95mph pretty much anywhere in the US and you'll be thrown in jail for reckless driving.
I have been pulled over twice at triple-digit speeds. Both times the police officer knocked it down to 1MPH under the cutoff for reckless driving.
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@abarker You do know they improved a lot more things besides just rocket retrieval, right? (That was the most newsworthy one, but far from their only accomplishment...)
Let's see … what else have they done? They had several "firsts" that are only firsts if you exclude similar achievements which included public funding. None of those really changed or advanced rocketry in any way. After all those psuedo-firsts, they got into landing orbital rockets, first on land, then on an ocean barge. As @Polygeekery had already pointed out, this had always been technically possibly, but just hadn't been tried before. That SpaceX tried and succeeded here was their first actual contribution of any type to rocketry. Then, when they had actually retrieved, and successfully relaunched, an orbital rocket, they worked on retrieval of payload fairings. Again, that they succeeded here wasn't any real surprise. And I guess I shouldn't forget to mention that they have the only rocket currently using densified propellants. Not that it hasn't been done before. Some retired models of ICBM used densified propellants, and ICBMs achieve a sub-orbital trajectory. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to modify those old models to get an orbital rocket similar to SpaceX's Falcon 9.
So, what have I missed? Aside from retrieval, what has SpaceX really contributed to rocketry?
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
bubblegum country.
???
Got a TR;DW version?
The city's growing to encompass what used to be pure farmland, but this guy's family is stubbornly sticking to their farming no matter how much it inconveniences the urban neighbors.
Got it. Actually, no. Not in this case. Our city just has pockets that are not totally consumed by urban sprawl and they had land and started an urban farm. It is kind of cool. We walk over there all the time on their farm. The kids love the animals. Our littlest one is fascinated by a gigantic pig they have that just hangs out like a Labrador. No fence.
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
Our littlest one is fascinated by a gigantic pig they have that just hangs out like a Labrador. No fence.
Pig? Heh.
Did I ever tell you about the time I went to a "petting zoo" in Argentina?
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
Our littlest one is fascinated by a gigantic pig they have that just hangs out like a Labrador. No fence.
Pig? Heh.
Did I ever tell you about the time I went to a "petting zoo" in Argentina?
No. Was there a donkey show?
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@abarker said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
As @Polygeekery had already pointed out, this had always been technically possibly, but just hadn't been tried before.
Mostly because government programs have little incentive to reduce costs or increase efficiency and to do it they had to reduce payload capacity by the amount of fuel necessary for maneuvering and landing procedures. NASA cared more about getting the most weight to orbit.
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
As of 4 months ago, the best electric car had a range of 335 miles.
Most of gas powered cars here are in that range, and it just mean I have to refuel it once a week. Or once in a very long trip.
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@wharrgarbl If you are diesel powered add another 100 miles.
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@Polygeekery No donkeys, but there were all sorts of animals you wouldn't expect at a petting zoo.
The highlight was a 6-month-old lion cub named Rock. At 6 months old, he was a bit bigger than even the largest of dogs. It was surprisingly cute, because he really did act like a gigantic kitten: very playful and affectionate, and a bit mischevious. He loved to hide behind the crate that served as his home when he saw people coming by, then suddenly jump over it and pounce them when they got too close. (Really freaked out a few little kids who he did that to!) A bunch of people got kicks out of taking pictures with their arm in his mouth or similar.
Unfortunately, the owners said they wouldn't be able to keep him much longer, because he was beginning to grow into a mature lion, and as adult instincts took hold he wouldn't be safe to keep around as a petting zoo attraction.
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
No donkeys, but there were all sorts of animals you wouldn't expect at a petting zoo.
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@Polygeekery *sigh* Remember, not everything "south of the border" is Mexico. :P
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Polygeekery *sigh* Remember, not everything "south of the border" is Mexico. :P
You said something about a petting zoo in Argentina. I thought of donkey shows in Tijuana.
I am a deeply disturbed individual.
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@Polygeekery Apparently! :o
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@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
Unfortunately, the owners said they wouldn't be able to keep him much longer, because he was beginning to grow into a mature lion, and as adult instincts took hold he wouldn't be safe to keep around as a petting zoo attraction.
I like to imagine they turned him loose in the Argentinian countryside and now he is blamed for Chupacabra style cattle attacks.
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@masonwheeler Wait, are we talking just "south of the border", or are we talking "south of south of the border's border"?
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@Polygeekery I actually heard a lot of people freaking out about Chupacabra attacks, talking about them as if they were something new. (In 2003. According to Wikipedia, tales of Chupacabra attacks date back to 1995. It must have taken a while to migrate that far...)
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@abarker A few thousand miles further south than that. :P
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@abarker Is that where they can still have polygamy?
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@masonwheeler said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
No donkeys, but there were all sorts of animals you wouldn't expect at a petting zoo.
As you might guess by the title, lyrics are quite NSFW.
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@dcon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@lucas1 said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Groaner I normally drive on a motorway much faster. M40 average speed is about 95mph. I was in the slow lane by doing a more sensible 80-90.
In the UK cops won't pull you over unless you are doing over 100 it seems.
I think you mean kph. You do 95mph pretty much anywhere in the US and you'll be thrown in jail for reckless driving.
I have been pulled over twice at triple-digit speeds. Both times the police officer knocked it down to 1MPH under the cutoff for reckless driving.
This is because most cops are humans and not robots and are thus capable of differentiating shades of gray and nuance to determine that ruining someone's life over a traffic violation should be reserved for truly serious offenses.
Now, had you tried this stunt in Virginia...
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@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
But no hour stops unless the kids are losing their shit.
That's bad for your blood flow and a risk of cloths
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@wharrgarbl said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
@Polygeekery said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:
But no hour stops unless the kids are losing their shit.
That's bad for your blood flow and a risk of cloths
Huh? I left my Portuengrish translator in my other pants.
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@Polygeekery "Clots", as in "blood clots", I presume.
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@Rhywden seems plausible. It still doesn't make sense, but it seems plausible.