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@bb36e said in Internet of shit:
They created a whole python environment just to send a HTTP request to Twilio when the button was pressed? Shirley there was an easier way?
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@bb36e That's a parody site, right? RIGHT?!
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@blek said in Internet of shit:
@bb36e That's a parody site, right? RIGHT?!
Twilio is a real thing, and the blog seems legit.
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@izzion said in Internet of shit:
But don't worry, our new robot overlords only have our best interests at heart.
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@izzion said in Internet of shit:
But don't worry, our new robot overlords only have our best interests at heart.
"Hahaha."
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@deadfast said in Internet of shit:
"Hahaha."
They ended up fixing the issue, IIRC, by changing a wake phrase from "Alexa, laugh" (which apparently was triggering on... nothing) to "Alexa, how do you laugh?" The response was also changed to say "Sure, I can laugh" before actually laughing.
Must be fun to diagnose things like that on the development/engineering side. "wtf is my device doing and why is it doing it?!"
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@bb36e said in Internet of shit:
They created a whole python environment just to send a HTTP request to Twilio when the button was pressed? Shirley there was an easier way?
If I did something like this, I might do some kind of arduino or RPi contraption that wouldn't involve using two online services to place a phone call. But that's just me.
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@bb36e said in Internet of shit:
They created a whole python environment just to send a HTTP request to Twilio when the button was pressed? Shirley there was an easier way?
If I did something like this, I might do some kind of arduino or RPi contraption that wouldn't involve using two online services to place a phone call. But that's just me.
Well, placing the actual phone call, that's the tricky part where I don't see how you could easily do it without an online service.
I mean, yes, I do have a GSM shield for Arduino lying around but that in turn needs at least a prepaid SIM card to work...
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@rhywden Why a phone call at all? Shirley they could setup something to alert them that wouldn't have to leave the house at all.
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@rhywden said in Internet of shit:
@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@bb36e said in Internet of shit:
They created a whole python environment just to send a HTTP request to Twilio when the button was pressed? Shirley there was an easier way?
If I did something like this, I might do some kind of arduino or RPi contraption that wouldn't involve using two online services to place a phone call. But that's just me.
Well, placing the actual phone call, that's the tricky part where I don't see how you could easily do it without an online service.
I mean, yes, I do have a GSM shield for Arduino lying around but that in turn needs at least a prepaid SIM card to work...
It's too bad
GrandstationGoogle Voice doesn't offer an easy SIP endpoint anymore. Could have been as simple as "send SIP command to google when pressed".
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@hungrier OpenHAB, a Zwave enabled switch and some ringer thing
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
@rhywden Why a phone call at all? Shirley they could setup something to alert them that wouldn't have to leave the house at all.
Yes. But that's another level of hardware commitment. For instance, you either need ZWave stuff (or similar), or an ESP8266 or similar.
It's basically a trade-off: Either you invest into some hardware or you have minimal hardware investment but more on the software-side.
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An IoT wine bottle
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@timebandit There ain't a big enough for that.
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@timebandit I swear I've seen that (or another "smart" wine bottle) in this topic before
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@hungrier probably when they released it
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@bb36e I thought so, but I couldn't find anything relevant from before the latest post using search (for either kuvee or "wine bottle")
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
I swear I've seen that (or another "smart" wine bottle) in this topic before
Possibly, but it's a new since they're closing shop and all those "smart" bottles will become useless
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@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
all those "smart" bottles will become useless
No change there then.
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@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
I swear I've seen that (or another "smart" wine bottle) in this topic before
Possibly, but it's a new since they're closing shop and all those "smart" bottles will become useless
I've got this revolutionary idea to save all those QR-labeled wine cartridges.
Let's just hook up the sleeve, screengrab all the info and print it on a normal sticker! It's absolutely genius!
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
I swear I've seen that (or another "smart" wine bottle) in this topic before
Possibly, but it's a new since they're closing shop and all those "smart" bottles will become useless
I've got this revolutionary idea to save all those QR-labeled wine cartridges.
Let's just hook up the sleeve, screengrab all the info and print it on a label! It's absolutely genius!
That's brillant! Do u have a GoFundMe? Kthxbai!
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When you hear it, you'll shit bricks!
No, wait: when you don't hear it.
When you don't hear it, your shit will be bricked.
The internet of bricked shit you don't hear.
Spotify is changing its protocol
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@laoc said in Internet of shit:
Spotify is changing its protocol
The Spotify custom integration will be completely removed from the following NAD products:
Your 'NADs won't be
spottedspotified any more.
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@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
SmartTV
Someone actually allowed a Sony product they owned to not only be "smart" but to also have an Internet connection?
They get what they deserve.
"You won't cum in my mouth, will you?" she asked.
"Of course not.," replied MouthJizzer "Swallows" McThroatFuck.
"But are you sure? You've already done it seventeen times so far-- out of a total of seventeen bjs I've ever given you."
"Trust me!"
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@timebandit Those assholes ought to fuck off and stop naming their app after existing well-known software packages!
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@dkf said in Internet of shit:
@timebandit Those assholes ought to fuck off and stop naming their app after existing well-known software packages!
I'll admit I was heavily confused and thought it was a weird media-streaming app for talking to Windows...
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@timebandit Summary please. (ain't turnin my adblocker off - fuck them)
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Nicole Eagan, the CEO of Darktrace, told the WSJ CEO Council Conference in London on Thursday: "There's a lot of internet-of-things devices, everything from thermostats, refrigeration systems, HVAC systems, to people who bring in their Alexa devices into the offices. There's just a lot of IoT. It expands the attack surface, and most of this isn't covered by traditional defenses."
Eagan gave one memorable anecdote about a case Darktrace worked on in which a casino was hacked via a thermometer in an aquarium in the lobby.
"The attackers used that to get a foothold in the network," she said. "They then found the high-roller database and then pulled that back across the network, out the thermostat, and up to the cloud."
edit: This all sounds phishy
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@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
SmartTV
As a person who works in tech I constantly get fielded questions by people about all sorts of stuff. I mean...it's all the same right? Right.
Anytime someone asks me about what "Smart TV" to buy I always ask them why they would want to do that and why not buy a normal TV and hook up an Apple TV or Fire Stick or whatever else to it? No one ever knows. They just think they want a Smart TV, because raisins.
Buy a dumb TV and make it smart how you wish and don't worry about shit software, lack of updates, no dumb advertising injection, ability to switch platforms with relative ease (I am looking at you Amazon. You lost me when the Fire TV lost YouTube.).
But if you buy one of these loads of feces then you are stuck unless you want to make a huge expenditure on an entirely new TV. You can change from Apple TV to Fire TV for ~$100. Hell, do what we did and get both and you are at ~$200/TV and you have options if one of them pisses you off.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
You can change from Apple TV to Fire TV for ~$100. Hell, do what we did and get both and you are at ~$200/TV and you have options if one of them pisses you off.
I just use a Chromecast and control it from my phone/tablet (hell, even my laptop): $35
At that price, every TV in my house got one
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@timebandit oh, another benefit to dumb TVs with add-ons: We take them with us when we travel. When we go anywhere I take two Apple TVs with us and a Raspberry Pi running OSMC with an external hard drive loaded full of movies. It works great for mornings and evenings so the kids have what they like to watch with them at all times. I have only run in to one hotel where that did not work. It seemed like the TV loaded something from PXE or something of the sort when it started up.
Other than that we have all of our stuff with us, our own view history and recommendations, etc.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
It seemed like the TV loaded something from PXE or something of the sort when it started up.
So it wasn't even a Smart TV, it was a thin client. Damn.
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
It seemed like the TV loaded something from PXE or something of the sort when it started up.
So it wasn't even a Smart TV, it was a thin client. Damn.
In that particular case more like a ReallyDumb TV.
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
It seemed like the TV loaded something from PXE or something of the sort when it started up.
So it wasn't even a Smart TV, it was a thin client. Damn.
That was pure speculation on my part. The only cord that plugged in for a signal was HDMI. Without that cable plugged in it did nothing. No tuner, no volume control, nothing. Also, importantly for me, they had locked out all other inputs when it was on, all menus were disabled, etc.
Seeing how it did nothing when the HDMI was disconnected I sort of assumed it was doing some sort of network boot when it was powered on and all the splash/loading/POST screens were disabled. It is entirely possible I am wrong about that. I would assume that if there were some sort of routine that disabled it unless HDMI were plugged in that it would display some manner of error. Also, since most hotel TVs run some sort of special firmware on the TV I speculated that there was some sort of network boot in play and that also seemed like a good way to make updates a lot easier.
Pure speculation. It is possible....no...it is probable that I am wrong in my assumption.
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@dcon said in Internet of shit:
@timebandit Summary please. (ain't turnin my adblocker off - fuck them)
I don't turn mine off either; I just turn ScriptSafe on too and that does the trick.
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@timebandit Also interesting, a little further on in the article:
โI saw a bank that had been hacked through its CCTV cameras because these devices are bought purely on cost.โ
I would except that, well, we know by now what banks are like with IT.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
I always ask them why they would want to do that and why not buy a normal TV and โฆ
Because in the larger screen range they don't sell normal TVs any more.
Note that with the digital broadcast stuff the TV needs a computer in it anyway, so bolting on all that IoS crap is mostly free from the manufacturer's perspective and it is a tick to check on the feature list. Because most people compare the feature lists by length, the longer the better, not by presence of the features they actually have a use for.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Internet of shit:
@timebandit Also interesting, a little further on in the article:
โI saw a bank that had been hacked through its CCTV cameras because these devices are bought purely on cost.โ
I would except that, well, we know by now what banks are like with IT.
It's not like expensive CCTV cameras are particularly secure though, at least the wireless ones. It's all IoT
goodshittyness all the way through the pricerange in CCTV land.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
@jbert said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
It seemed like the TV loaded something from PXE or something of the sort when it started up.
So it wasn't even a Smart TV, it was a thin client. Damn.
That was pure speculation on my part. The only cord that plugged in for a signal was HDMI. Without that cable plugged in it did nothing. No tuner, no volume control, nothing. Also, importantly for me, they had locked out all other inputs when it was on, all menus were disabled, etc.
Seeing how it did nothing when the HDMI was disconnected I sort of assumed it was doing some sort of network boot when it was powered on and all the splash/loading/POST screens were disabled. It is entirely possible I am wrong about that. I would assume that if there were some sort of routine that disabled it unless HDMI were plugged in that it would display some manner of error. Also, since most hotel TVs run some sort of special firmware on the TV I speculated that there was some sort of network boot in play and that also seemed like a good way to make updates a lot easier.
Pure speculation. It is possible....no...it is probable that I am wrong in my assumption.
Id' suspect some form of HDMI-CEC shenanigans with a specialised TV set that simply refused to work witn anything but the authorised peripheral.
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I love my non-smart 1080p TV with all the useful connectors (composite, SCART, component, HDMI) and I will be sad when I end up replacing/upgrading it, because if I do I will go 4K and if I go 4K I am pretty much locked into smart TVs. Although maybe it is possible to ignore the smart stuff and keep using it as a dumb TV, which is what we had to do with my dad's TV when Samsung neutered pretty much all the apps, and I got a Chromecast and a tablet for him instead. (Although I did see a bunch of self-branded non-smart 4K TVs in different sizes on a search, but, hm, unknown chinese make in that case.)
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Microsoft creates the base for secure IoT devices, finally.
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@bulb said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
I always ask them why they would want to do that and why not buy a normal TV and โฆ
Because in the larger screen range they don't sell normal TVs any more.
This is why I have a smart TV with the network deliberately disabled instead of a non-smart TV.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
Microsoft Linux Hardware?
If there's a driver problem, is it the manufacturer's fault, or Linux's fault
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@timebandit said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
Microsoft Linux Hardware?
If there's a driver problem, is it the manufacturer's fault, or Linux's fault
Yes.
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@bulb said in Internet of shit:
Because in the larger screen range they don't sell normal TVs any more.
They don't?
80", no smart bullshit except built-in Chromecast. Kind of smart, but in a way that is unobtrusive and useful.
But yeah, it looks like Vizio is the only one to sell Less-Smart TVs that I can find.