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@cvi 80% done and 2.37GB left. Yup, that's a game update.
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@cvi 80% done and 2.37GB left. Yup, that's a game update.
Too small to be XCode, after all.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@cvi 80% done and 2.37GB left. Yup, that's a small game update.
FTFY
So glad my "bad habit" involves a Kindle Reader instead.
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@dcon
You're lucky we don't kink shame around here.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@cvi 80% done and 2.37GB left. Yup, that's a small game update.
FTFY
So glad my "bad habit" involves a Kindle Reader instead.
NSFW thred is
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Meanwhile, at the LAX Four Points Hotel by
ShitSherton:I called the front desk and the girl there had no idea. I guess no one has complained in the last 5 months. She have me the password to the "manager"network, so we're using that.
Just extrapolate from that and you'll understand this shithole hotel in a shithole city in a shithole state.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
LAX
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@HardwareGeek airplanes.
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@boomzilla But why Los Angeles?
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@HardwareGeek cheaper and better flight options than Ontario or John Wayne.
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@boomzilla But why the Los Angeles metropolitan area, rather than someplace that isn't a "shithole city in a shithole state"?
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@HardwareGeek most of my family hasn't escaped California.
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@boomzilla I'm so sorry!
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Yes, I'll totally trust the Grammar correction of something so schizophrenic it can't even figure out which language to use. (Note that not just my text but also the suggested action is in German, the rest is in English.)
Pass!Also, why the fuck does Word still default to using ragged right margins in
${current_year}
? Nobody sane actually wants that instead of justified margins, the only people who use it are those who didn't change the default.
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@nerd4sale said in WTF Bites:
If I order one fried rice at my local Chinese food place, they know exactly what I mean.
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ragged right margins
The fuck is that? And why wouldn't I want it?
Justifications in another thread.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
ragged right margins
The fuck is that?
And why wouldn't I want it?
Because it's stupid and you want this instead:
Justifications in another thread.
: No justification for you.
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Yes, I'll totally trust the Grammar correction of something so schizophrenic it can't even figure out which language to use. (Note that not just my text but also the suggested action is in German, the rest is in English.)
Pass!Also, why the fuck does Word still default to using ragged right margins in
${current_year}
? Nobody sane actually wants that instead of justified margins, the only people who use it are those who didn't change the default.I had a Dutch teacher in middle school who actually insisted it was the only correct setting to use. You'd get points deducted for using full justification.
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@topspin Ragged right looks less formal, which some people consider to be more "friendly". It's also easier to read than full-justified, because of consistent character spacing, but you can usually get the best of both worlds with well placed hyphenation
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you can usually get the best of both worlds with well placed hyphenation
The best is fully justified with a good hyphenation engine enabled. Like that, the amount that the spaces in the line have to be stretched or squashed tends to be really small.
The tricky part is some things aren't easy to hyphenate well. The classic example is a URL.
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@dkf also, Word is literal decades behind on decent paragraph layouting. (Knuth‘s algorithm is from 1981)
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Also, why the fuck does Word still default to using ragged right margins in
${current_year}
? Nobody sane actually wants that instead of justified margins, the only people who use it are those who didn't change the default.You forgot "people who attend US schools/colleges and are forced to use them by their teachers/professors because some style guide written by somebody who never used a computer mandates it, as well as graduates who still think this is the way because nobody told them yet their professors were full of shit".
My sister, who grew up in Europe but moved to the US right before high school, got points docked on essays for justified margins on more than one occasion.
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@Gustav why is everyone deducting points for doing it right?
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you can usually get the best of both worlds with well placed hyphenation
The best is fully justified with a good hyphenation engine enabled. Like that, the amount that the spaces in the line have to be stretched or squashed tends to be really small.
The tricky part is some things aren't easy to hyphenate well. The classic example is a URL.
The width of your text block is also a factor. In case of narrow columns (like newspapers and many magazines) you're also better of sticking with left justification.
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The width of your text block is also a factor. In case of narrow columns (like newspapers and many magazines) you're also better of sticking with left justification.
Two column formats are super common in technical papers and all of them use full justification since forever.
I'm with @topspin on this one. Ragged right should just DIAF and so should anybody insisting on using it.
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@Gustav why is everyone deducting points for doing it right?
Because it is important to teach the young that Doing What You're Told is more important than Doing Things Right.
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@Zerosquare Exactly.
Obediance, servility, subservience.
These are the values of a modern democratic lawful state.
Hail Kaiser Wilhelm!
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Then y’all need to write more shit in posts so we can enable the justify setting in CSS because everything here is ragged, right?
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TBF, until recently, ICU was only available in C, C++ and Java and while you could bind the C version to any library, programmers apparently didn't consider it much fun.
PHP considered it so much fun that it has 2 timezone datasets - one from system's tzdata, another from ICU. And these sets didn't match on most distros for many years.
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@sebastian-galczynski what the heck does Unicode have to do with time zone data sets?
Wait… maybe I shouldn’t ask?
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@sebastian-galczynski to be fair, the tzdata lot was bundled core many years ago (I want to say 5.1 or 5.2), while the ICU stuff is still not core, it’s not even considered “standard” in a lot of hosting environments even though Laravel claims to insist on ext/intl being installed (but frequently doesn’t bother needing it)
I’m not seeing most people use the ICU data in things for the most part - they either don’t bother or they use tzdata if they care enough to get it “right”.
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@topspin ICU is a lot more than just “Unicode” because humans invented some gnarly shit.
Here are a few highlights of the services provided by ICU:
- Code Page Conversion: Convert text data to or from Unicode and nearly any other character set or encoding. ICU's conversion tables are based on charset data collected by IBM over the course of many decades, and is the most complete available anywhere.
- Collation: Compare strings according to the conventions and standards of a particular language, region or country. ICU's collation is based on the Unicode Collation Algorithm plus locale-specific comparison rules from the Common Locale Data Repository, a comprehensive source for this type of data.
- Formatting: Format numbers, dates, times and currency amounts according the conventions of a chosen locale. This includes translating month and day names into the selected language, choosing appropriate abbreviations, ordering fields correctly, etc. This data also comes from the Common Locale Data Repository.
- Time Calculations: Multiple types of calendars are provided beyond the traditional Gregorian calendar. A thorough set of timezone calculation APIs are provided.
- Unicode Support: ICU closely tracks the Unicode standard, providing easy access to all of the many Unicode character properties, Unicode Normalization, Case Folding and other fundamental operations as specified by the Unicode Standard.
- Regular Expression: ICU's regular expressions fully support Unicode while providing very competitive performance.
- Bidi: support for handling text containing a mixture of left to right (English) and right to left (Arabic or Hebrew) data.
- Text Boundaries: Locate the positions of words, sentences, paragraphs within a range of text, or identify locations that would be suitable for line wrapping when displaying the text.
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@Arantor time calculations should be clearly out of scope, but whatever.
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In case of narrow columns (like newspapers and many magazines) you're also better of sticking with left justification.
And yet, newspaper text is almost always fully justified*.
Well, funnily enough, I went to check, and the first article I looked at was left justified. But only that one article. All others are fully justified*.
* Typographically. It does not, by any means, imply the content is justified.
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@Arantor time calculations should be clearly out of scope, but whatever.
Calendars are part of localization, and to be able to format a timestamp, given as unix time or julian date, to the calendar and clock value, the timezone conversion is also needed. So it needs to be included.
IIRC there is just one maintainer of the tzdata that everybody takes it from, but the separate copies that different libraries use can still get out of sync.
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@Arantor time calculations should be clearly out of scope, but whatever.
Time calculations are partially locale-sensitive (first day of week, first week of year), so locale-handling library is not the worst place to have them.
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@Arantor time calculations should be clearly out of scope, but whatever.
Time calculations are partially locale-sensitive (first day of week, first week of year), so locale-handling library is not the worst place to have them.
And anything to do with rendering times for display to ordinary users needs a lot of localisation anyway. Parsing times is even worse.
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@dkf also, Word is literal decades behind on decent paragraph layouting. (Knuth‘s algorithm is from 1981)
… famously just formalizing what that Gutenberg dude had figured out in the 1450s.
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@Gustav why is everyone deducting points for doing it right?
When my wife asked me to help layout her masters' thesis in the early 2000s I accepted only under the condition it would be LaTeX. BibTeX produced a beautiful DIN format list of citations, and one of the grading professors bitched about the "non-standard form of citation" because it didn't match the format he insisted was "required" in social sciences
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i18n, Atlassian style.
f12n more like.
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professors bitched about the "non-standard form of citation"
Absolutely common at universities. Every prof has his preferred system, and that's the only valid system, all others are used by
hereticsother faculties only.
Oh btw, there were some universities in Germany arpund year 2000 which insisted on diploma or PhD thesis to be written in German instead of English, even when the work was done in collaboration with a foreign (not German speaking) institution.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Every prof has his preferred system, and that's the only valid system
Of course.
Professor 1: IEEE
Professor 2: IEEE
Professor 3: IEEE
Professor 4: IEEE
Professor 5: IEEE
Professor 6: IEEEObviously if you do an inferior degree, that’s your own problem
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Every
profjournal/venue hashisits preferred systemNot using whatever the journal wants is a good way to get your publication rejected. Best not get too attached to any one system.
That said, the citation reference (e.g., the "[N]" or "[Blah et al., 1337]") isn't part of the text and you're a bad person if you treat it as such.
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@cvi the beauty of bibtex and latex in general is you rarely have to care about the formatting details. Hand it to them in whatever, and they can apply their house style. Or they give you the style files and you apply them. I can't imagine doing anything serious in, say, Word.
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@Benjamin-Hall I made a lot of corporate rep back in the day by being able to unfuck Word documents that managers spent many many hours making, and then Word would whenever it felt like it.
People will use the “friendly” tools until it bites them.