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@Carnage There is a bunch of things you can review for. I tend to not really review for "Does this code work at all", since that's a lot of work and requires actual testing. I do check for pitfalls and bad architecture, though I may miss them if they're well-hidden.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Code review
What's that?
That's when people complain about trivial crap and ignore the real problems.
@Zenith, give his account back before he drops a 50 kilo dumbbell on your leg.
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@Applied-Mediocrity I considered writing a shit-post along those lines. I'm now glad I left it to the professionals.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
see the list of files changed
Another specialty of Kevin: an empty line at the end of the file got added or deleted. That's all, nothing else changed in that file.
And here comes a specialty of Johnny. Who used to be a contractor, but a couple of years ago suddenly became an employee. He has always worked from home. His check-ins are typically late in the night, often on weekends.
You take your diff viewer of choice, and look thru his Great Work. Wow! What a lot of changes! Here, a function is missing. There a function has been added. Another one missing. 2 functions added. Missing ... Added...
Actually, nothing has changed at all. Just some re-shuffling of the functions in the file. But it is not so easy to see. He is a real master, his capabilites of incapability hiding are beyond Kevin's.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Code review
What's that?
Well, if you don't have code review, why do you have PRs?
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Well, if you don't have code review, why do you have PRs?
Ceremonial purposes.
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Well, if you don't have code review, why do you have PRs?
Ceremonial purposes.
All Hail The Process!
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@BernieTheBernie that's the only reason I use branches at all
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Are there supposed to be changes in this file?
Whoa, I missed this. What are you changing the files for? That's not SCROB.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Did we ever put someone with an apostrophe in his name in outer space though?
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Did we ever put someone with an apostrophe in his name in outer space though?
The Irish Space Programme is not well known for their successes in human spaceflight.
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The Irish Space Programme
Is that where they sit in the pub staring at the sky?
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Did we ever put someone with an apostrophe in his name in outer space though?
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@boomzilla Wow. I would have half-expected the rocket to blow up on launch due to the apostrophe.
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Did we ever put someone with an apostrophe in his name in outer space though?
The Irish Space Programme is not well known for their successes in human spaceflight.
Well, they are not that behind, considering that UK government managed to a send briton to space in 2015 (for comparison: 34 years after Romania ).
TIL that the "list of British astronauts" on wikipedia is padded by Lord British
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@loopback0 "... shall we fix the ceiling, then?"
"Nay."
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@Applied-Mediocrity My M.2 SSDs in my main PC has active cooling, due to sharing heatsink with the chipset that also requires it. Although only PCIe 4.0 here.
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While it's running these "low priority background processes" nothing else seems to work in any reasonable timeline. Find definition? It'll do it eventually. Find implementation? Never gonna happen
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@boomzilla Wow. I would have half-expected the rocket to blow up on launch due to the apostrophe.
The Space Shuttle used computers designed by IBM in the late 70s and thus they weren't allowed to have lowercase letters or punctuation. (Vowels were to be used sparingly.)
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@Applied-Mediocrity Given my PCIe 4 SSD with passive cooler occasionally issues a ānearing critical temperatureā warning yeah, improving performance much further will require active cooling.
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@Atazhaia @Bulb And are you folks feeling the gain that this rise of temperature is supposed to provide? I mean, there are specific workloads, but I suspect general software development work isn't it. And neither is reading TDWTF or assorted everyday stuff.
Not sure games are either. I put some games on a 24G OSF RAMdisk (alas, not many fit these days - I'd like to try with Ass Creed or Metro Exodus) some time ago. Tried with the ROG thing first, but even though it's rebranded AMD, who rebranded it from, I think, DataRAM, it's kind of on the slow side. Anyway, so I pitted it against my 3rd Gen, making sure to reboot between the runs, so that the file cache is cleared. No difference in loading times or framerate as far as I can tell.
The same way I won't be going for the new 200W CPUs and the all but confirmed 0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs. I've always went for top or near top-of-the-line, but this is getting ridiculous. A line must be drawn somewhere
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
The same way I won't be going for the new 200W CPUs and the all but confirmed 0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs. I've always went for top or near top-of-the-line, but this is getting ridiculous. A line must be drawn somewhere
Would that be imperial or metric horsepower?
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@Applied-Mediocrity TIL 1 horsepower =745.699872 watts (thanks Google)
Which means... 560-Watt GPU? That's more than my comp's entire PSU is rated for!
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@Medinoc TIL that my gaming PC has a 1 horsepower PSU (overspecified for the rest of the hardware because I don't like running PSUs at peak).
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Would that be imperial or metric horsepower?
The difference disappears if you switch all the RGB blinkenlights on.
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs
This connector is rated up to 9A at 12V, meaning the 12-pin PCIe power connector can handle up to 648W
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
The card presented at CES 2022 will become available for sale.
Given the recent history of GPU availability, I'm not going to hold my breath.
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@Applied-Mediocrity My M.2 SSDs in my main PC has active cooling, due to sharing heatsink with the chipset that also requires it. Although only PCIe 4.0 here.
My new computer has a PCIe 4 M.2 SSD as the boot drive, but (like the chipset) it's just passively cooled. The motherboard did come with a heatsink to stick on it, though.
@Applied-Mediocrity Given my PCIe 4 SSD with passive cooler occasionally issues a ānearing critical temperatureā warning yeah, improving performance much further will require active cooling.
Thankfully I haven't had this problem. I haven't seen a temp over 55Ā°C for anything in my new computer, but I don't have any high-end components that would push it to boiling either.
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It's pretty common for the motherboard M.2 sockets to be under the chipset heatsink and/or MB-provided heatsink, though, at least on the higher end. And my MB also came with an M.2 expansion card if I want to connect two more SSDs to one of the PCIe slots, and that card comes with a big fan for active cooling, like most M.2 expansion cards does.
Although PCIe 4.0 SSDs does seem to come with their own heatsinks unlike PCIe 3.0 ones. So that PCIe 5.0 does require active cooling isn't much of a stretch seeing we've gone from none -> passive already, and every generation is a doubling in speed. So 5 is quadruple 3 when it comes to that.
My second PC (the ITX one) instead has one of the M.2 slots on the underside, so therefore lacking the ability for cooling. But that slot is 3.0 so should be fine I guess.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
Would that be imperial or metric horsepower?
The difference disappears if you switch all the RGB blinkenlights on.
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs
This connector is rated up to 9A at 12V, meaning the 12-pin PCIe power connector can handle up to 648W
They should skip all these middle-steps and go straight to CCS plug. 350kW should last at least 10 years or so.
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It's pretty common for the motherboard M.2 sockets to be right alongside the GPU rad
And it can't be helped. The PCI-E 4.0 spec recommends no more than 10" trace length between the CPU and a PCI-E device. PCI-E retimers can be used, but they cost money that MB makers aren't willing to spend. At best they might put a redriver, which half-asses the job at best.
I happen to know this, because I bought a PCI-E 4.0 riser, so that the bloody graphics card wouldn't bend under its own weight. But the thing kept failing soon after ramping up to 4.0 speeds. I've since been keeping it horizontal on the desk and the graphics card vertical. It's a superior configuration anyway.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
so that the bloody graphics card wouldn't bend under its own weight.
My graphics card came with a bracket to support it.
Not this card, but the same bracket:
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@loopback0 Mine dident
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Edit: It does. But it's ugly unpainted piece of metal, and only for "select cases".
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
350kW should last at least 10 years or so.
Good idea. Because there's already some with two of these new-fangled horsepower plugs
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
Would that be imperial or metric horsepower?
The difference disappears if you switch all the RGB blinkenlights on.
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
0.75 HORSEPOWER GPUs
This connector is rated up to 9A at 12V, meaning the 12-pin PCIe power connector can handle up to 648W
They should skip all these middle-steps and go straight to CCS plug. 350kW should last at least 10 years or so.
Inb4 they recycle an existing 3-pin design for GPU power
e: After clicking the link I realized I made r/yourjokebutworse
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TIL that my gaming PC has a 1 horsepower PSU
I wonder how much ponypower @Tsaukpaetra's computers do have.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
power rating of up to 1200W
Does it also make toast?
With those
fansturbines it might be the world's first flying toaster for home use.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
TIL that my gaming PC has a 1 horsepower PSU
I wonder how much ponypower @Tsaukpaetra's computers do have.
We've seen some of those specs... All of his computers together probably don't even add up to 1 little pony.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
TIL that my gaming PC has a 1 horsepower PSU
I wonder how much ponypower @Tsaukpaetra's computers do have.
We've seen some of those specs... All of his computers together probably don't even add up to 1 little pony.
Shirley they at least make it to Derpy level.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
But it's ugly unpainted piece of metal
Who cares? It's inside the closed computer case, where nobody ever sees it or the blinkin' RGB LEDs on the card it supports, right? ... Right?
Filed under: RGB everything thread is
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@izzion
Must be ... at least one is running W11
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@Applied-Mediocrity whenever I start the tests for any project (which I have put on proper rails) the MacBook does a Cessna impression. Yes, cooling matters. Bucking Shannon always makes heat.
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@dcon we don't know that they're not the node specs for clusters, mind.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
power rating of up to 1200W
Does it also make toast?
With that much power, it can cook your whole dinner. Microwave ovens are typically 800ā1000W.
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whenever I start the tests
There's an easy and all too obvious solution to that, of course