More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense
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Just saw this this when I got back from lunch. Obviously it's new to the later fast ring builds.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Just saw this this when I got back from lunch. Obviously it's new to the later fast ring builds.
Windows 10 doesn't auto restart. You're faking that.
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Windows 10 doesn't auto restart.
Right. It's letting me control when it restarts.
I have already set up active hours so it knows when it's not safe:
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Right. It's letting me control when it restarts.
"Windows 10 doesn't automatically restart. Instead, it restarts automatically by itself."
:/
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Whoa Nelly, that's a heck of a bug:
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@FrostCat It isn't a bug. You're just not using TOUCHSCREEN EVERYTHING IS A TABLET right. Because Metro is perfect
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
"Windows 10 doesn't automatically restart. Instead, it restarts automatically by itself."
I don't even know where this whaaargarbl about it not auto-restarting came from. The complaint is it supposedly doesn't warn you. Check your privilege (you're probably not running as an Administrator).
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
It isn't a bug.
O RLY.
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
You're just not using TOUCHSCREEN EVERYTHING IS A TABLET right. Because Metro is perfect
I don't even think our resident MS apologist claims that. I certainly don't.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
It isn't a bug.
O RLY.
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
You're just not using TOUCHSCREEN EVERYTHING IS A TABLET right. Because Metro is perfect
I don't even think our resident MS apologist claims that. I certainly don't.
If Metro says the PM goes there, you need to re-learn how you enter time ranges.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Whoa Nelly, that's a heck of a bug:
What's the bug?
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@accalia said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
last one who tried was surprised when the anti-virus software got infected and removed his bot as a virus.
Yeah, was dealing with a Win 2k3 server that had webroot installed "because that's the best available" (sic the other "IT" guy supposed to be actually in charge of computer security), webroot itself was infected, so every time it would start its scan the virus would (because accessing executables triggers the infection routine) eat up all the executables it came across (because a quick scan specifically seeks executables), and then Webroot would detect it as a generic virus and "clean" it (by deleting the executable).
Needless to say, Windows isn't happy about its files getting yoinked under it, and so began the endless stream of System File Checker dialogs asking for the OS Install disk (which no longer existed at that time, because 2003).
It was... fun.
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
If Metro says the PM goes there, you need to re-learn how you enter time ranges.
You're ginning up faux outrage over the wrong thing.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Whoa Nelly, that's a heck of a bug:
Had to look. Yup. But then I figured it out. That's just 3 scrollers next to each other. Definitely bad UI design...
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
What's the bug?
Take a look at the numbers in the middle column.
As someone else already pointed out somewhere, you can't type in there, either.
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
But then I figured it out. That's just 3 scrollers next to each other
That's bad UI design all right but it's not the bug (remember, we're not working with @blakeyrat's definition of "bug" here.)
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
someone else already pointed out somewhere, you can't type in there, either.
Did you also end up searching when you tried typing?
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
But then I figured it out. That's just 3 scrollers next to each other
That's bad UI design all right but it's not the bug (remember, we're not working with @blakeyrat's definition of "bug" here.)
Infiniscroll!
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Take a look at the numbers in the middle column.
Oh. Duh.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Did you also end up searching when you tried typing?
No, but I clicked on the popup first, anyway.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Did you also end up searching when you tried typing?
I did discover the keyboard works. Use the arrow keys for change the "focused" slider. And then the up/down arrows. But, yeah, no numbers. ("it's a phone" is back...)
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Oh. Duh.
Furthermore, you can't enter in an active hours range longer than ten hours.
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
But, yeah, no numbers. ("it's a phone" is back...)
That's especially stupid, coming from MS. What if I have a BT keyboard? What if I'm using a hypothetical scanner using Win10Mobile that also has a keyboard? (answer: I probably shouldn't be fiddling with restart times, heh.)
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Furthermore, you can't enter in an active hours range longer than ten hours.
No one could possibly stand Windows for longer that that. It must be true. Microsoft tests this sort of thing before making changes.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Oh. Duh.
Furthermore, you can't enter in an active hours range longer than ten hours.
No shit... "Active hours valid range is 10 hours". Hope your boss agrees! (Wait, my active hours at home are 6a-7a, 6p-11p, except on weekends)
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
you can't enter in an active hours range longer than ten hours.
Well there goes that idea...
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Wait, my active hours at home are 6a-7a, 6p-11p, except on weekends
There's still "custom restart time".
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
"custom restart time".
But no "custom restart datetime", 'cuz I'd set it in the past so it never triggers... Though that probably wouldn't work anyways...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I'd set it in the past so it never triggers..
That sounds like it would trigger now.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I'd set it in the past so it never triggers
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@loopback0 said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
That sounds like it would trigger now.
Well, fine, then Epoch - 1 so it's considered the end of time?
It's Windows Scheduler though, so who knows if it would trigger immediately?
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Furthermore, you can't enter in an active hours range longer than ten hours.
Microsoft knows your working hours better than you do. :640kb_joke:
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So nobody's brought this up yet?
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@dcon People only ever start and stop working exactly on the hour. You don't need minutes. Besides, if we let people use minutes, they'd do something clever like set working range from 00:00 to 23:59, and then Windows 10 would NEVER automatically reboot...
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
set working range from 00:00 to 23:59, and then Windows 10 would NEVER automatically reboot...
No, because it won't let you set the range that long.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
set working range from 00:00 to 23:59, and then Windows 10 would NEVER automatically reboot...
No, because it won't let you set the range that long.
Six of one, E_RANGE_UNACCEPTABLE of another.
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Oh shit. Should I be worried that I'm planning to wait until this evening or tomorrow morning to apply these‽
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@boomzilla it says right there you need to do it to keep your system safe
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@boomzilla Quoting myself :
@TimeBandit said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:ZOMYGOD ! Quick, apply all patch and reboot ASAP !!! and don't take any chances, put a condom and rubber gloves while doing it, you could get infected
Oh wait.... Linux. Nevermind. Keep working and apply the updates when it is convenient for you.
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@TimeBandit said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Linux. Nevermind
My thoughts exactly.
Alternatively: are you saying there has never been a critical security exploit in Linux?
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@Jaloopa I remain blissfully unaware of any in-the-wild malware that would ever have been capable of finding its way into the guts of my Debian desktop. Care to destroy my insufferable Linux-user smugness with a cite?
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@Jaloopa said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Alternatively: are you saying there has never been a critical security exploit in Linux?
Don't overthink this. We're just making fun of the paranoid safety people.
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@boomzilla WTF, kernel 3.13 is an upgrade for you? That's even older than the kernel in Debian Stable.
You must be very enterprisey.
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Should I be worried that I'm planning to wait until this evening or tomorrow morning to apply these‽
Depends... are you going to be shooting aliens or writing an email?
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@flabdablet said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
WTF, kernel 3.13 is an upgrade for you?
Kubuntu 14.04 LTS. I'll probably upgrade to 16.04 sometime next month. I've learned not to jump too fast on those releases and I've generally been quite satisfied with 14.04, so why bother to upgrade?
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@boomzilla I got sick of the Ubuntu regularly-upgrade-everything model and moved to Debian Testing, which is essentially a rolling release. I like it much better. Have you used it?
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@boomzilla Still, only 3.13? I have to be really careful with our 14.04 LTS systems since they're wanting to upgrade to kernel 4.X, which is not supported by the version of the third-party driver framework we use.
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@flabdablet said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Have you used it?
No. I've thought about trying it but the LTS stuff has been fine for me.
@mott555 said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Still, only 3.13? I have to be really careful with our 14.04 LTS systems since they're wanting to upgrade to kernel 4.X, which is not supported by the version of the third-party driver framework we use.
I dunno...I don't choose any kernel stuff manually. It tells me when it wants to be updated and then I let it do so.
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@FrostCat said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I have already set up active hours so it knows when it's not safe:
That's funny. MS programmed in the ability to schedule the hours when Win10 will fuck you.