The Official Woody Woodpecker Thread
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you were still setting up elaborate and subtle jokes about trans people that were just metaphors for me.
Negative. You'll notice my previous post said mostly. Mostly does not mean entirely.
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You say that like I was merely reiterating what I called false
Yes you were.
Anyway, I'm not being drawn in into this discussion. I see too much feelings being thrown around along with too much repetition going:
You did say that ... !
No, I did not, I said: ...
That's the same thing, you did say that ... !
No, I did not, I said: ... ! That's a totally different thing!
No, you did!
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@Lorne_Kates said:
That statement in itself is libelously accusing people of being murderers.
No, it isn't goal post moving.
You: "You people are murderers"
Me: "That is libelous because we aren't"
You: "It isn't libelous because you people are murderers"
Me: "You are still saying the same thing by asserting your original libelous statement"This is a theoretical example of me moving goalposts on a definition:
You: "There are people out there who, because of transphobia, harm or murder trans people"
Me: "Why are you calling me a murderer?"
You: "I'm not. I'm saying there are people who are."
Me: " Then why are you implying I'm one of them?"
You: "What? I'm not saying you're one of them. But some people are"
Me: " Then why are you saying anyone who doesn't agree with you is a murderer?"
You: "I'm not saying that! I'm saying some people who fall into a certain criteria are..."
Me: " Then why isn't your definition explicitly excluding me, so you're calling me a murderer"See the difference? No, you probably don't, because you're realityphobic.
#So how is libelously accusing people of being murderers OK?
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@Lorne_Kates said:
are
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
(To clarify, i do not think it means "you support the idea of")
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
#So how is libelously accusing people of being murderers OK?
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Once again, there is a difference between
I'm not comfortable with this
And
Fuck you, you fucking faggot, get the fuck out of my house before I beat you, you perverted little shit
Funny, I couldn't find anyone saying that.
EDIT
Oooh, now I don't know and can't find where I left off the reading...
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I'm definitely not the only one who views "condoning assault, violence, and/or murder" as immoral.
No, but you are rather flippant with your definitions. To you it means, "any joke I disagree with".
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I was paraphrasing.
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any joke I disagree with".
No, it means "any joke which casually condones assault, violence, and/or murder"
Learn to fucking read, please.
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Funny, I couldn't find anyone saying that.
Now, in all fairness to @Fox, trying to prove anything with Discosearch isn't a valid criticism.
http://i.imgur.com/n5vZmum.png
There we go.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
being
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
(Again, i do not think it means "i support the idea of", which is what i was actually accusing)
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No, it means "any joke which casually condones assault, violence, and/or murder"
Learn to fucking read, please.
Well, you're going to have a tough time here, because the denizens of these forums do it all the fucking time, to all groups. We are about equality. All groups can be subject to jokes. You want equity, where you can only make jokes at the expense of the majority.
TL;DR, fuck off to tumblr with your SJW crusade.
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Yeah, I thought about doing that, but then I realized, that even Google isn't that fast at indexing new results.
BTW, looks like Fox was the first to say it, like ever:
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No, in the case of joking about murder, want equality. I.e. don't fucking joke about murder, you fucking psychopath.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
(Again, i do not think it means "i support the idea of", which is what i was actually accusing)
So how is libelously accusing people of being murderers OK?
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We prefer the term sociopath. Also when has murder been off limits as a joke. We tell dead baby jokes all the time. The funnier execution the better.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
So how is libelously accusing people of being murderers OK?
It's a typo. He meant to say you're a group of crows.
Alternative joke: How is calling you a murderer libelous?
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No, in the case of joking about murder, want equality. I.e. don't fucking joke about murder, you fucking psychopath.
Are you the Joke Policeâ„¢ now?
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No, but he is a fun sponge.
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that's not what was going on in TTTCBN before I found it.
Quite so. What was going on in there before you found it was a classic TDWTF echo chamber. Then you turned up and said something non-echoey, so you started copping shit. Then I turned up and agreed with you, which according to the boys' club around the water cooler made the two of us an echo chamber. Then they started chaffing up the thread with straw men and accusing us of projection and groupthink, which is what they always do when somebody has the temerity to call their bullshit bullshit.
Remember: people have a right to be bigots. Also remember that when one of these nongs insults you, he's asserting his fundamental right to free speech; when you insult him back, you're engaging in silencing tactics. Also, your ability to perceive this as the double standard it is shows that you lack empathy and are incapable of seeing anything from somebody else's point of view. Just so you're clear on that, you filthy disgusting worthless piece of SJW shit. I am the poor beleaguered middle-class cis white male here, and don't you dare victimize me.
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The funnier execution the better.
This tends to be the thing with jokes.
I think we should ban them! Let no one laugh, from now on, because when people laugh,god kills a kittensomeone commits suicide.
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No, in the case of joking about murder, want equality. I.e. don't fucking joke about murder, you fucking psychopath.
"I've got a new nickname for you," I told my wife today.
"What is it?" she asked.
"Bambi," I replied.
"Aww, is that 'cos I've got beautiful eyes?" she asked.
"No, it's because I've just killed your mum," I replied.
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Oh its just someone! Don't worry about it. Unless its a transperson! Whoa! Not cool man!
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You don't get to teach people about what makes them "easily traumatized". You don't get to tell people that their experiences and feelings are not a big deal, and that they should just man up and get over it, just because you can.
I suppose you just missed @polygeekery's use of the exact same words that you had to put in @asdf's mouth here.You're the kind of person that would tell the girl who got into bed with a guy and got knocked out and violated that "meh, that's what you wanted, right? You're so *easily traumatized*."
You're right regarding one particular class of people: those who had homophobia to begin with. A real, medical, full-blown, huddling-in-a-corner-rocking-back-and-forth phobia. That coupled with the delusion that they knew better than a bunch of MDs and psychologists what defines a male (hell, even @polygeekery [managed to free himself from that][2] in what was probably a brief Ballmer Peak moment) could probably produce something vaguely comparable to a rape trauma. Like locking a claustrophobe in an elevator or something. Which coincidentally was the initial point: it's a phobia.
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No, but he is a fun sponge.
No, because that would imply that he'd then be filled to the brim with fun, and we could give each other fun sponge baths with him.
He's more of a fun black hole. Fun cannot escape, and it is eternally in the process of being destroyed. Due to relativity around the singularity of unfuness that exists in him, fun will quickly drop, but then asymptotically approach zero.
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@flabdablet said:
serious enough, in fact, to render consent to sex uninformed and invalid, thereby making any consequent sexual contact amount to rape of the "deceived" by the trans non-discloser.
Yeah, that never happened.
And @captain doesn't exist, you never clicked "like" on his post, and slavery is Freedom[tm]. Welcome to Polly's World.
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If you're going to link into The Thread That Cannot Be Named, you need to type explicit HTML links like
<a href="https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/the-wario-belgium-s-a-librarian-with-guacamole-topic/51347/38">this</a>
because Dicksauce will bеlgium them up if you don't.
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I am so disappointed that the Idiot Fox has not commented on that joke.
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Then I turned up and agreed with you, which according to the boys' club around the water cooler made the two of us an echo chamber.
That's what we're calling it when people agree, right?
you filthy disgusting worthless piece of SJW shit
My sarcasm detector isn't on the fritz, so I know you're not actually starting to see the light.
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I know you're not actually starting to see the light.
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@Polygeekery said:
fuck off to tumblr with your SJW crusade
not a silencing tactic
You're right. Of course, it's an attempted silencing in reaction to another, which isn't the same sort of bad behavior as the initial would be silencer.
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t they knew better than a bunch of MDs and psychologists what defines a male
Yay! Semantics!
I thought we'd established that what normal language calls heterosexual is, for the purposes of updated social norms, more correctly labled heterocisexual. Your participation was intermittent, so maybe you missed that. It's not easy to communicate when the definitions of words shift and not everyone got the memo and then others assume bad faith on the part of those people.
Yeah, easier just to proclaim slurs against them.
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Ah, thanks. Didn't notice that piece of shit actually rewrites the whole link m(
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You calling me out, cunt?
I like a TISM
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You're right regarding one particular class of people: those who had homophobia to begin with
Homophobia?
Homo-fucking-phobia?
Are you seriously telling me that the only reason a person would not be okay with a penis on their partner is fucking homophobia?
Are you seriously incapable of distinguishing between a sexual orientation and prejudice? I guess gays are just heterophobic too?
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Are you seriously telling me that the only reason a person would not be okay with a penis on their partner is fucking homophobia?
Reading comprehension fail. The claim is that the only class of people likely to suffer actual trauma as the result of such a discovery are those who do consider the prospect of a homosexual encounter so genuinely terrifying and/or disgusting as to constitute a real, medically diagnosable phobia.
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Kind of like how my intolerant acts in reaction to your (plural you) intolerant acts isn't as bad as the initial intolerance.
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Take your demands for consistency and fuck off back to Tumblr with them. We don't tolerate that kind of shit around here.
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@LaoC said:
No, Biology. You're excused for confusing them. All that sciency egghead shit.t they knew better than a bunch of MDs and psychologists what defines a male
Yay! Semantics!
I thought we'd established that what normal language calls heterosexual is, for the purposes of updated social norms, more correctly labled heterocisexual.
You mentioned the word that hardly anyone in the world has ever heard a couple of times, people were mostly like and somehow that makes you think "we" had "established" it.Your participation was intermittent, so maybe you missed that. It's not easy to communicate when the definitions of words shift and not everyone got the memo and then others assume bad faith on the part of those people.
I keep hearing stuff like "penis on a pretty girl" and analogies with being blown by a man particularly from @Maciejasjmj that I was replying to, indicating that he sees trans people basically as male.But sure, make that "transphobia" if it makes you happy, then the delusion part is obsolete, the phobia remains.
Yeah, easier just to proclaim slurs against them.
The "slur" being what exactly?
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I think you forgot
… you SJW jerkwad.
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My bad. Cunt.
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Kind of like how my intolerant acts in reaction to your (plural you) intolerant acts isn't as bad as the initial intolerance.
That's a plausible justification if you equate sexual orientation as "intolerance." I mean, if we drop the normal connotations of language, it kind of is. But I don't think you honestly consider yourself a misogynist or gynophobe, so we're back to either inconsistency or shoulder aliens on what you're talking about.
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@LaoC said:
Just a moment ago, some people were "feeling raped" and "traumatized" by the deeply disturbing experience of having had pleasurable sex with a transsexual, now they are suddenly just mildly miffed and "not okay with a penis on their partner" (where did you find that penis anyway?)You're right regarding one particular class of people: those who had homophobia to begin with
Homophobia?
Homo-fucking-phobia?
Are you seriously telling me that the only reason a person would not be okay with a penis on their partner is fucking homophobia?
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where did you find that penis anyway?
On a blanket next to a broken toaster oven. Some guy was selling it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4
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you fucking psychopath.
But wouldn't you be angry after a psychopath tricked you into having sex without Disclosure
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No, Biology. You're excused for confusing them. All that sciency egghead shit.
Uh huh.
You mentioned the word that hardly anyone in the world has ever heard a couple of times, people were mostly like and somehow that makes you think "we" had "established" it.
Yeah, at the time, I said that I was making it up as far as I knew. But it filled a gap in the communication for a lot of people. You're still on the "incredulous at people's sexual orientation stage," I guess.
indicating that he sees trans people basically as male.
...indicating that you didn't understand the post you replied to here and quoted parts of.
The "slur" being what exactly?
Transphobic. How did you forget that?
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who does consider the prospect of a homosexual encounter so terrifying and/or disgusting as to constitute a genuine, medically diagnosable phobia of it.
Considering a prospect of a homosexual encounter when applied to yourself disgusting and terrifying is called "a heterosexual orientation". Not homophobia.
A crucial difference is that homophobes aren't okay with other people engaging in such acts.
I keep hearing stuff like "penis on a pretty girl" and analogies with being blown by a man particularly from @Maciejasjmj that I was replying to, indicating that he sees trans people basically as male.
Pre-operation and for sexual intents and purposes, yes, I'm sorry, that penis runs contrary to my sexual orientation no matter if you're legally or mentally female. Even if I can interact with you outside of bed as a female, in bed, it's your private parts that count.
Post-operation, I still think it should be made clear that someone's using prosthetics for their genitals.
Just a moment ago, some people were "feeling raped" and "traumatized" by the deeply disturbing experience of having had pleasurable sex with a transsexual
So what you're saying is, "they liked it, so it's okay". Fuck, even rape apologists don't generally step that low.
now they are suddenly just mildly miffed and "not okay with a penis on their partner"
No, they have every right to be fucking pissed and terrified if they weren't informed of it.