:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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My account there is untouched, but I'm not really active.
I've sort of defended Discourse and discodevs before, but this behavior is inexcusable.
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y account there is untouched, but I'm not really active.
ditto
I've sort of defended Discourse and discodevs before, but this behavior is inexcusable.
I love the smell of burnt bridge in the morning...
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wtforum.{org|net|com} are available...
The weekend starts for me in about 6 hours. I guess that's as good a time as any to kick off a rebrand.
Not sure whether @apapadimoulis would be OK with me running a forum with "WTF" in the name, though?
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You gotta suggest your forum in the new category:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/ok-flarum-other-suggestions-please/51144/
Filed Under: You are welcome
Also Filed Under: PJH said he'd rather have a tested forum, though. So you need to sell yours well!
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I refer you to my post in that thread :``D
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I refer you to my reply over there before I even posted that!
Filed Under: How is that for continuity?
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Discontinuity?
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In this case Kuro-continuity!
Filed Under: similar but not as crazy
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We'll need a Kuro-paedia at this rate.
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I'll probably stay longer than Discourse ;P
Filed Under: That is my Kuro-promise!
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Did you have "TDWTF" in your name / bio?
Filed Under: Pretty sure thats something they looked for
No, that's not it …
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Maybe he forgot when A 2015 was and that you'd been unbanned?
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No, but my bug reports linked to WTDWTF posts.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/oneboxed-posts-may-trigger-unexpected-notifications/29007?u=abarker
That's not it either …
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Hm, okay... I assumed that because I didn't post that much (besides the occasional bug-report) and the only thing that would really link me to TDWTF was the hat and the fact that I had "from TDWTF" in my long name...
Filed Under: maybe my name is just so recognizable!
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Ahahaha
Account suspended until September 10, 2016: Sorry, no longer welcome here
I didn't get caught in the initial banwave, so I messaged Jeff on meta.d:
Re: TDWTF
"You forgot to suspend me."Took him an hour, though.
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What, you got a capitalized "S" in Sorry?
How much did you pay Jeff?
Filed Under: You clearly got the better treatment here!
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I'm almost tempted to create an account so I can have the honor of being banned, too. Almost.
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Betcha won't.
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Betcha won't.
No bet. I have never had any desire to create an account, and I still don't, but the idea of creating one just to get banned is as close as I've come to wanting to be involved with meta.d.
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Wait what? He told the bot to suspend himself?
Then added a fucking Hitchhiker's Guide quote? Jesus.
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Wait what? He told the bot to suspend himself?
An admin in discourse can impersonate another user. Effectively, you push a button and you're logged in as that user. @PaulaBean is also an admin, so he used that account to suspend his account.
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An admin in discourse can impersonate another user.
That sounds like a feature NOT to have in whatever software we move to.
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In other words ... BOT ABUSE!
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It can be helpful for reports like "things are broke! fix it!" as you can see what it looks like from the reporter's view. How useful it is to us is different as most here know how to write a bug report or support ticket.
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That sounds like a feature NOT to have in whatever software we move to.
Yeah, the excuse I heard for it was debugging. I've never tried it because...it's creepy. Though if I had the stable of test accounts the @PJH has ( @PJH_0, @PJH_1, etc) I might use it as a convenience.
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Holy smokes... what is this I don't even....
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I very vocally complained about this when I found out it existed.
Afterwards I started carrying Admin-names in my long name as a constant reminder!
Filed Under: Then people wanted to be added... things did not work out the way I thought they would!
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It can be helpful for reports like "things are broke! fix it!" as you can see what it looks like from the reporter's view.
And HTTPS decryping proxy can be used to speed up internet.
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I'm not banned either but I haven't said anything or been there since the days of the original Burnses.
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I've found 5 TDWTF accounts that have avoided the ban hammer, I'm not going to list them here though at risk of them also being unfairly banned.
One of them is mine, but you might not know that because I don't use the same name, primarily so this kind of shit wouldn't happen.
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Opening that usercard just jellypotatoed me!?!!?!
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Nope, @jieshuang.
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Are you really surprised that he did a discosearch and got less than complete results?
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Meta is still a source of trainwreck joy, though:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/bring-back-permanent-pins/33147
"We realize we can't stop you, but we're going to make doing what you want a hard as possible because we don't think it's right".
Jesus, it's like cancer of software development when the developers decide for you what you should or shouldn't do with your forum.
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We really should fork it and undo this sort of shit. We could call our fork "The non arrogant fucker" version.
Crap like that can't be more than a couple of lines to change...
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You want to maintain that Ruby hellstew? I'm not very inclined to...
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You want to maintain that Ruby hellstew?
No, but I am usually up for twisting a knife in Dickwoods side.
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If it were any other forum software, I'd just say to fork it and maintain it ourselves. But you can barely even install Discourse without a pre-made container.
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But you can barely even install Discourse without a pre-made container.
That's Ruby-on-Rails for you.
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f it were any other forum software, I'd just say to fork it and maintain it ourselves.
I phrased it poorly. We should just undo that bullshit like you linked to in your post, to help that guy out...and piss off Atwood.
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But you can barely even install Discourse without a pre-made container.
It can't be that bad? Rails is dead simple to install. Is Redis and Nginx a requirement?
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Yeah, well, I've been observing RoR development for a while, mostly at work but here-as-proxy-for-meta.d as well, and it seems to be something that lets you bang out a fairly complicated site quickly. And then the excrement starts to pile up. The big issues only really hit once you go through a major upgrade in Ruby or Rails version, where the weird hacks you were using (and you were using them even if you didn't know it, because in Ruby, hacks are good practice) come back to bite you in the ass. So you work around by copying in a version of a dependency that works, and now you're in real trouble. It all just goes further and further off the rails<pun intentional>.
My colleagues have made the same mistake several times, and it's come close to burning out at least three developers that I know. If it was a one-off I would dismiss it, but if it happens several times even when the developers know to be careful there's something deeply awry.
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It can't be that bad? Rails is dead simple to install. Is Redis and Nginx a requirement?
Nginx is dead simple. (I don't know Redis so well, but it probably is pretty easy to get going with too.)
The problem is that you need specific versions of lots of things and that you need to juggle to get everything to actually live together in one container. Which also needs to be very beefy by comparison with more parsimonious systems.
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The problem is that you need specific versions of lots of things
Bundler makes that dead simple.
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They use Docker, next?
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