:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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From what I've learned on this forum, those two issues are waaaay more complex than e.g. "Location", so it does make (disco-)sense...
Edit: I'm wondering more about the grey help-texts below the input boxes...
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Edit: I'm more wondering about the grey help-text below the input boxes...
I've only just noticed that
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Today in Discoland:
I want to delete the Staff category but I can't
That's neither supported nor recommended
Ok but the software actually tells me "If you do not wish to use this category, delete it instead of repurposing it"
You can't because the FAQ, ToS etc live there
Ok - maybe there should be a better message explaining why it cannot be deleted, rather than nothing happening when you try
If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
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If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
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I'm sure each design decision has solid thinking behind it
Pffft... Couldn't read that with a straight face.
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@loopback0 said:
If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
What's so surprising about it? Especially for this forum here...
Filed under: it's time for you to migrate off Discourse
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Are you really surprised? Constructive criticism = personal insult in Jeff's world.
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God, the guy's an insufferable prick, isn't he?
I like to imagine that if someone pointed out a typo in his Paypal/bank account details he'd rather all the money be sent to someone else than change it.
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If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
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some days JDGI can't cut it.
seriously. give that man an asbestos cork! and for the goddess sake get him out of customer support entirely because he's terrible at it!
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JDGI
At this point I believe he thinks Discourse is so awesome no one can resist it, and there truly are no alternatives anyone will find that are good enough to replace Discourse.
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At this point I believe he thinks Discourse is so awesome no one can resist it, and there truly are no alternatives anyone will find that are good enough to replace Discourse.
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Discourse is great. I'm sure each design decision has solid thinking behind it and so I was only trying express my point of view for your consideration.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Are you really surprised? Constructive criticism = personal insult in Jeff's world.
Really? You mean the nice urine-coloured toaster telling me thatConstructive criticism is welcome, but criticize ideas, not people.
is actually LYING?
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God, the guy's an insufferable prick, isn't he?
You said a bunch of words there, but all I heard was "cunt".
https://what.thedailywtf.com/uploads/default/_emoji/doing_it_wrong.png?v=0
for the goddess sake get him out of customer support entirely because he's terrible at it!
This is the problem when someone inept like this owns a business. Nobody can tell them to fuck the hell off and let the adults do their job.
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This is the problem when someone inept like this owns a business. Nobody can tell them to fuck the hell off and let the adults do their job.
who will tell the tyrant that they are, in fact, a tyrant?
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Nobody, it's much easier to walk away and say "fuck that guy".
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Nobody, it's much easier to walk away and say "fuck that guy".
even when the tyrant has closed the gates to the city and crucifies any who attempt to leave?
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[quote=wood]
The general built-in philosophy of Discourse is, when you post something unless it's wrong in a very clear way that no one would disagree with, it pretty much can stay.[/quote]http://www.heavybit.com/library/video/2015-03-10-jeff-atwood
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But we told him he was a tyrant. And he did close the gates. And we are no longer welcome there... So I don't see your point.
Filed Under: It's possible if you file enough bugs for the tyrant to throw you out, is what I am trying to say
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even when the tyrant has closed the gates to the city and crucifies any who attempt to leave?
Erm, are we still making an analogy about dickheads who write forum software? I fear we've strayed onto different terrain...
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Erm, are we still making an analogy about dickheads who write forum software?
yes. yes we are.
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@DoctorJones said:
Erm, are we still making an analogy about dickheads who write forum software?
yes. yes we are.
ISTM the analogy is a bit strained. Exile would be a more fitting analogy than crucifixion.
Filed under: Or cars vs. trucks; that's always a good analogy for anything.
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I'm sure each design decision has solid thinking behind it
Weeeeeeelllll, shit is, largely speaking, a solid...
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@izzion said:
I'm sure each design decision has solid thinking behind it
Weeeeeeelllll, shit is, largely speaking, a solid...Discourse, the diarrhea of forum design.
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This immediately reminded me of this:
Unfortunately, no Internet version of Ash is ever going to exist, probably...
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Ok - maybe there should be a better message explaining why it cannot be deleted, rather than nothing happening when you try
If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
lol yah, we should probably update the documentation about that, or, you know, maybe make the software not retarded...Filed under: we'll get right on that...
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@loopback0 said:
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Ok - maybe there should be a better message explaining why it cannot be deleted, rather than nothing happening when you try
If you want to find software that better meets your needs feel free
lol yah, we should probably change the colour of that toaster to match the coldmap status of the least used thread. And maybe up the font size by half a point.Filed under: we'll get right on that...
Filed under: Back to the bikeshed, guys
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Filed under: Back to the bikeshed, guys
That's what's really so surprising about this. He resisted the call of the shed.
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It's a mathematical problem.
Let 𝑥 be the number of distinct surfaces of a bikeshed
Let 𝑦 be the number of distinct bugs in a discussion platform- Show that 𝑥 is a finite, countable, positive integer.
- Show that 𝑦 is a positive integer greater than 𝑥
- Show that 𝑦 is uncountable
- For extra credit, show that 𝑦 may be expressed as 𝑥ⁿ ⋚ 𝑦 ⋚ ∞ where n is a positive integer greater than 100.
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Is comparable to, I guess? X and Y are cardinalities, N is an integer so x^n is a cardinality, so those are comparable. Not sure offhand if cardinality is comparable to \infty, may depend on your axioms.
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ISP realizes that Discourse is a DDOS platform for the next 10 years, DNS blocks it, avatars break. (OK, I may have
extrapolated tomade up some of that).
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https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-cdn-is-having-troubles/37220
ISP realizes that Discourse is a DDOS platform for the next 10 years, DNS blocks it, avatars break. (OK, I may have
extrapolated tomade up some of that).
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And the problem gets an official WOMM from the dev team.
Maybe I'm just paranoid from having worked for an ISP. But I would be asking for further details so that I could contact said ISP and ensure the DNS problem (bad geo-DNS, bad caching server, whatever) is getting resolved. Because damn, man, if it's broken for anyone who doesn't know how to change their DNS server, then it's pretty much unusable for everyone except your forum admins and
QA teambanned users.
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Fucking hell...
This has now turned into:
The search box doesn't work properly on a Nexus 10
We can't repro this on iPad so this must be specific to your device
I've tried another Android device with the same result
No repro on iPad Pro
tried it on Firefox Mobile on Android, same result
We don't support Firefox mobile - can you repro it on Firefox desktop?
So Jeff actually bothered to check the correct platform, and shocker, it was broken.
The way to ensure a bug gets fixed? Make sure it annoys Jeff.
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Jeffgression
: Definitely a regression can you have a look ?
: Looks like you removed it in this commit by accident? I've reverted it. The description seems to hint you were trying to do it for similar topics, not search topics.
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LOL. He bikeshedded the outhouse.
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If only someone would withhold his Scooby Snaxx until he learned to not piddle on the carpet...
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What do you know, the problem has been Jeffixed. Maybe. We hope.
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It's just Jeff guessing. Like the time he claimed something was a regression (having originally closed the topic) only for another Discodev to point out it they never even attempted to fix it.
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Dang, if only they had a way to track who done what.
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Dang, if only they had a way to track who done what.
Nobody does anything meaningful anyway so there is no use-case for such software.
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Nobody does anything meaningful anyway so there is no use-case for such software.
Who said anything about software?
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Who said anything about software?
A pile of old Post-It® notes that have lost their stickiness, dropped onto the floor, and been "claimed" by a well-hydrated tomcat would be a more effective bug tracking system than the way they use Discourse as a bug tracker.
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Oh dear
https://meta.discourse.org/t/welcome-email-template-graphics/37594?u=codinghorror
: Do you have available somewhere the graphics / banners that are part of the new user welcome email in English? The stock ones are not.
: What do you see?
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But the 50K or whatever pittance uh...grant...to is TOTALLY enough to cover the costs of a developer to fix all of the complexities that would come from e-mail as a "frist" class citizen.
Just RegEx the sucker to death right?
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Dang, if only they had a way to track who done what.
Excellent idea! Give them a year or two, they'll probably be using for source control in addition to its many other
misfeatures...
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(discussion continued from people yakking about the Discobans)
I'd say y'all should go check to see if you are still banned-- but you may not be able to.
I just noticed that Reason field for suspended users has
gone blank. I have no date as to when this occurred, but we have 3
suspended users on our instance and at least 2 of them has suspension
reasons the last time I viewed their profile. It is not listed on their
public profile, nor on their admin page.
Probably a bug based on reorganizing the user page @sam.
Repro link: http://discourse.stonehearth.net/users/epicdwarf/activity(closest I have to sam)
You must have fucked up a migration
Wat? We didn't migrate.
Has to be a migration artifact. So in that case the workaround is to unsuspend the user, then re-suspend them.
... A migration artifact from what? A Discourse update?
A migration artifact is a mistake in upgrading the database between Discourse versions.#LET ME REPEAT THAT ONE
A migration artifact is a mistake in upgrading the database between Discourse versions.#IT ISN'T DISCOURSE FUCKING UP WE WILL JUST CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE SO THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS THE USER DOING IT WRONG. YOU AREN'T UPGRADING YOU ARE "MIGRATING" AND IT ISN'T A BUG IT'S AN "ARTIFACT"!!!!!!!!!
Anyway now that has that information, perhaps he can dig a bit in the raw database to see if the data is still there on older instances where users were suspended.
lololololololol. "Discourse fucked up your data. Hope you have a backup. Go fuck yourself."
How did this bug get past QA? Too bad they don't have a Discourse instance with a fuckton of suspended users to test on...
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