:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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Fucking hell, Jeff really was acting persistently dense there.
@codinghorror said:
No, then people will think the password contains quotes.
Right, because quoting literals and escaping stuff are so unusual.
(Albeit, I've been watching my cousin set up a site for his new business. Seeing him and his wife come across all this info I take for granted is interesting. They're doing well enough, and they know I'm available for help if they need it, but the surprise when I told him about "view source" — well, he was one of that day's lucky 10,000 :) )
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Right, because quoting literals and escaping stuff are so unusual.
thinks everyone else is a drooling moron.
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This dude's been huffing too much Discojuice.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/wordpress-of-forums-or-google-of-communities/34801
Just posted this somewhere:
For 1 year now, whenever I join a forum I like to ask this question: Have you considered using discourse.org ?
Most of the times it is my perception the answer is "no, we didn't even know / care about it" or, sometimes, "yeah, but we wanted to roll something of our own", which I find very sad. Discourse is hugely unique in a lot of ways and still so much overlooked. If you wanted to build something, why not on top of it?
It will not only become the wordpress of forums, it will probably become the google of talking. It could even eventually resolve what's broken about email or messaging, although their small team would never claim this. Okay, maybe I'm overstating it... But it is this awesome! :)
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What about: "The Dickforce is strong with this one" ?
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Also... they didn't focus the composer when clicking Reply on a touch device, which turns out to be some stupid hack because their rewritten composer introduced some "regressions" for iPads. User logs a bug and so the fix, naturally, is to only use the hack for iOS devices rather than fix the new composer.
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the google of talking
I know when we say "too stupid to live", we mean it as a joke. As hyperbole.
But not this time.
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Just because one guy figured out what Jeff wants to hear and usss that to his advantage?
Maybe he has a bigger request further down the line? Something like "Please make Discourse more like 9Gag and also make it so I can make easy money"? That would be stupid of him but snice he sucked up to Jeff, he at least won't be "no longer welcome here". So thats something!Filed Under: TDWTF is like the ____________ of the talking
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INB4 lynched
It will not only become the wordpress of forums, it will probably become the google of talking.
As in "does everything in the world, but fails horribly at evaluating its userbase, which is why all its social ventures are absolute disasters"?
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For 1 year now, whenever I join a forum I like to ask this question: Have you considered using discourse.org ?
Every time someone pulls that shit in one of "my" forums, I just link to this thread.
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Going even a bit further off topic and praising discourse, to me, discourse should eventually become an RFC to replace emails, irc and whatsapp into one communication tool!
What is he smoking?
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An API. Heh.
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There is an API. It's just not public, documented, nor stable.
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There is an API. It's just not public, documented, nor stable.
And so freaking confusing at times that my attempts at making something sane ended up with changing the class diagram like 5 times before I got sick of it.
There's
basic_user
, then there'suser
. One is the subset of another, but there is no endpoint for the former, it just pops up in some responses. JSON objects are huge mess of dozens of attributes that, instead of being packed into another object, get prefixed with stuff likepost_
andtopic_
, so any attempts to map these to your own classes involve substring matching and endless looping, adding of moreif
s/switch
es instead of just parsing it in a sane manner.Oh, and I hope someone tries to do a simple DB dump. I think they will be highly entertained when they see how it looks like internally.
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I think they will be highly entertained when they see how it looks like internally.
It's Rails. Rails spits on the idea of actually properly encoding your data model in your database schema. It lets developers get up and going very quickly, then runs them straight into the rough and gets out the cactus dildos.
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And here I am, spending days tweaking queries, views, creating stored procedures, when all I needed was Rails...
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And here I am, spending days tweaking queries, views, creating stored procedures, when all I needed was Rails...
Provided you remember the cacti waiting for you once you want to actually have a sane system.
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Coming soon! 125% more bugs per release!!!
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Weee! Such a blast to be part of this. Here's to the 10 year mission!
Two 5 year plans in one!
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Great Leap Forward, indeed.
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Now it’s very much my pleasure to welcome Erlend to a full time role at Discourse as our first official community advocate.
Can't be worse than Jeff, can he?
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Great Leap Forward, indeed.
There was a joke in Poland back in the days that went something like this:
Comrades! It is true that before the war, our country was standing on the edge of a precipice!
But worry not! We've come here to make a great leap forward!
I find it oddly relevant.
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> Now it’s very much my pleasure to welcome Erlend to a full time role at Discourse as our first official community advocate.
Oh fucking hell.Yes, Jeff, what your fucked-up piece of bikeshedded software shit needs most urgently is an "official community advocate". Not developers or - gasp! - QA people. Or someone with at least the usability expertise of a three-year-old.
Unless of course he will advise communities how to migrate off their giant dungheap. Then it would almost make sense.
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Yes, Jeff, what your fucked-up piece of bikeshedded software shit needs most urgently is an "official community advocate". Not developers or - gasp! - QA people. Or someone with at least the usability expertise of a three-year-old.
Well, Jeff isn't exactly the best at being nice to users, so I can see how getting someone to do that might help.
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Following some links in that thread, I saw some discussions about alternatives to Discourse. Some dude mentions something called MUUT, but I don't recall seeing that name in our migration topics. Has anyone looked at this?
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There is an API. It's just not public, documented, nor stable.
Here, the ruby gem is the recommended way to interface with it
And this is the documentation if for some reason you don't want to use ruby
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Yes, Jeff, what your fucked-up piece of bikeshedded software shit needs most urgently is an "official community advocate". Not developers or - gasp! - QA people. Or someone with at least the usability expertise of a three-year-old.
There is enough volunteers filling bugs for Discourse. We even had to get rid of some, because with couldn't keep up with them.
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Well, Jeff isn't exactly the best at being nice to users, so I can see how getting someone to do that might help.
I assume 99% of Erlend's job will be to SPANK SPANK Jeff any time he tries to open his mouth.
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couldn't keep up with them.
Maybe you should have used a bugtracker instead of a shitty forum.
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I just took a quick glance. All topics seem to be inlined into one page, which I guess would make it difficult to catch up with some of the exponential threads we have.
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All topics seem to be inlined into one page
I did see on meta.d where Jeff dismissed MUUT as just a comment system and not a discussion forum. I think I understand his opinion now. Don't hate me for that.
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Well then I hope he/she/insert-tumblr-kin's a sadist cause that's all SPANK SPANK, all the time.
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"official community advocate"
:phone:
First I play with @codinghorror, then @sam came, and I play with @sam . We play @Erlend, we had a awful good time! Now, I want to play with you...
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New Discofeature!
5xx error CDN!
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5xx error CDN!
Those are hosted at Digital Ocean and using round robin DNS to two DO droplets.
That's not even a fucking CDN
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DiscoCDN.
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I don't think avatar CDN was their title for it anyway
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Sam's response: "We need monitoring..." I wonder what they will do when the avatar server is down. Render them locally?
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I wonder what they will do when the avatar server is down. Render them locally?
Turn it off and on again, go back to bikeshedding. Same as any other Discoutage.
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@vote for @aliceif
As your HSO, I would like to remind you that voting outside of the Mafia thread is prohibited by regulation R1GG3D.V0T35. Those found in violation will be docked 0 likes and invited to join Robert Mugabe's re-election campaign.
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I assume 99% of Erlend's job will be to SPANK SPANK Jeff any time he tries to open his mouth.
So, what you're saying is "he'll be fired by January".
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@Maciejasjmj said:
@vote for @aliceif
As your HSO, I would like to remind you that voting outside of the Mafia thread is prohibited by regulation R1GG3D.V0T35. Those found in violation will be docked 0 likes and invited to join Robert Mugabe's re-election campaign.
I think he's beyond your ability to regulate any more.
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Coming soon! 125% more bugs per release!!!
99 Discourse bugs on the wall, 99 discourse bugs.
Take one down, patch it around, 138 Discourse bugs on the wall.