In other news today...
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What a surprise...
Three weeks after the launch, weekly HomePod sales slipped to about 4 percent of the smart speaker category on average, the market research firm says. Inventory is piling up, according to Apple store workers, who say some locations are selling fewer than 10 HomePods a day.
Veteran Apple analyst Shannon Cross says consumers assumed the HomePod would be able to do many of things the Echo and Google Home can do—answering questions, orderings pizzas and much more. Instead the HomePod is mostly limited to playing tunes from Apple Music, controlling a limited number of Apple-optimized smart home appliances and sending messages through an iPhone.
Apple never saw the HomePod as anything more than an accessory, like the AirPods earphones, according to people who worked on the product. When the Echo debuted four years ago as Apple engineers were toiling away on early versions of the HomePod, their bosses continued to see the product as a high-quality speaker rather than a voice-controlled digital assistant for the home.
So Apple failed at reading the market trends and by extension failed at making the product the customers expected, all while tying it up really heavily into their own ecosystem in a category where that's definitely counterproductive. Good job!
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First time in living memory that a headline has included both "hip" and "Prince Philip".
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@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
So Apple failed at reading the market trends and by extension failed at making the product the customers expected, all while tying it up really heavily into their own ecosystem in a category where that's definitely counterproductive. Good job!
You forgot : at twice the price
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
You forgot : at twice the price
I thought just the mention of Apple implied that already.
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@atazhaia At least, at that price point, it does something the others don't do
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@da-doctah said in In other news today...:
First time in living memory that a headline has included both "hip" and "Prince Philip".
I imagine the first time in living memory was the headline about him going into hospital
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@lucas1 There's only three things I can think of that you might be talking about; HTML-only view, the ability to use non-Google email accounts in the mobile app and the ability to search for categories. Other than that I have no idea how Gmail could be better than Inbox, enlighten me.
Yuck. I just opened that up and it's a horrible space waster. Each email takes up twice as much vertical space as it does in gmail. All whitespace.
Do not want.
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@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
So Apple failed at reading the market trends and by extension failed at making the product the customers expected, all while tying it up really heavily into their own ecosystem in a category where that's definitely counterproductive. Good job!
ITYM that they courageously left out all of that functionality that the more plebian "smart speakers" have.
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@coldandtired said in In other news today...:
@da-doctah said in In other news today...:
First time in living memory that a headline has included both "hip" and "Prince Philip".
I imagine the first time in living memory was the headline about him going into hospital
Probably different on the other side of the pond, where people pay attention to such things, but the only headline I saw didn't mention why he was going into hospital and didn't include the word "hip."
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
@atazhaia At least, at that price point, it does something the others don't do
Yeah, did they ever solve that?
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@jbert said in In other news today...:
Yeah, did they ever solve that?
I couldn't find an article saying it was solved, but then I found that Sonos wouldn't be outdone by Apple
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@hungrier At least, they're coming with new features
FileUnder: Gmail, the email service for Hillary
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@timebandit I bet after they found that problem, they had to go to a long involved progress to get approval to import a ... (gasp!) natural... material like wood into their amazing glass, plastic and metal monstrosity of a headquarters.
I also bet some Apple designer said something like this when the news broke:
Wood? Wood!? I suppose it also leaves a ring on your packed-dung walls and straw roofing, you uncultured swine! I need another cappuccino.
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Apple
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Live longer or live happier. Your choice
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@pie_flavor But if take 30 minutes to drink your glass of wine, you loose 30 minutes of your life
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
So as long as I'm Jeffing posts around it's OK to drink? Sweeeet.
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@boomzilla Yeah, but then drinking becomes work, and
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@timebandit 30 minutes each day or just 30 minutes toto?
Or as Third Rock From The Sun put it:
"You're smoking? That'll take YEARS off your life!"
"Yeah but only from the end of my life, and those years are crappy anyway."
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor But if take 30 minutes to drink your glass of wine, you loose 30 minutes of your life
Split the difference... I'll just drink it in 15 minutes and lose 15 minutes of my life.
Also, loose != lose.
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@hardwaregeek said in In other news today...:
where people pay attention to such things
The royalists do. Everyone else goes straight for
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
Make it feel like you Live longer or live happier. Your choice
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@lucas1 There's only three things I can think of that you might be talking about; HTML-only view, the ability to use non-Google email accounts in the mobile app and the ability to search for categories. Other than that I have no idea how Gmail could be better than Inbox, enlighten me.
I hated inbox when I first saw it and never looked at it again.
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@jbert said in In other news today...:
@da-doctah said in In other news today...:
We all knew this kind of thing was going on. Now the press has figured it out too:
Next step, to try my "rotation of the earth defense", in which I claim that my car, ticketed for speeding in a westerly direction, was moving slower than stationary objects at the side of the road.
Ah, how typical:
Donald Schulz told WWL that he has been issued speeding citations 10 or 11 times while his car remained parked. The camera, which is designed to ticket speeders, captured Schulz's license plate, instead of the car passing by Schulz's car.
"Whoever is responsible for reviewing these violations is not doing their job," Schulz told WWL.
City officials told WWL that a contractor is to blame, and that the contractor will train its employee how to properly issue citations.
And for a twist in the story, what if Mr. Schulz was parked illegally and the contractor was simply noting the vehicle demonstrating the wrong action in the picture without knowing that the camera was intended to catch speeders?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
That's not a water pistol, it's Marvin the Martian's ray gun!
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@boner My god, it's full of puns!
It should have been a simple case of pie and sell.
But Linda and Tony Gilkes were left piping hot with fury after their local Morrisons refused to sell them meat pies before 9am.
But staff were determined to abide pie the rules, telling customers the store had a new ‘no meat pies before 9am’ policy.
And the final zinger:
The supermarket chain, with 500 stores up and down the UK, has now swallowed a piece of humble pie and issued an apology to the couple for the mi-steak.
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
There's talk of replacing the Hocho emoji with a retractable plastic dagger in the UK....
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While the asian companies were fast at lining up to suck Nvidia's cock, the US companies were less impressed. So, how long until the massive lawsuit strikes Nvidia over GPP? I say it's only a matter of time...
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/12/dell_hp_resist_nvidia_gpp_leash_so_far
But don't fear, NVIDIA has clearly stated, GPP is all about transparency to benefit the gamer. We did reach out to NVIDIA to again ask what companies were signed up with its GPP, and once again failed to get an answer; again that transparency thing comes to mind.
Dell nor HP are wanting to turn over their gaming brands to NVIDIA. Off the record conversations suggest that both of these companies think that NVIDIA GPP is unethical, and likely illegal as it pertains to anti-competition laws here in the United States. The bottom line is that Dell and HP are very much upset with NVIDIA over GPP, and Dell and HP look to be digging in for a fight.
We also now can share that NVIDIA has specified that it will not extend discounts to non-GPP partners. And what is appalling, but not surprising, is that NVIDIA is denying "priority allocation" to non-GPP partners as well. That basically means your GPU order must have gotten lost in the mail.
"Gaming" brands outsell non-gaming brands 3 to 1 according to the research I have seen on the subject. So to suggest that AMD will not be impacted by GPP is simply not true.
To sum up NVIDIA's actions, if you do not agree to be a part of its GPP, you lose GPU allocation, you lose GPU discounts, you lose rebates, you lose marketing development funds (MDF), you lose game bundles, you lose NVIDIA PR and marketing support, you lose high effort engineering engagements, you lose launch partner status, but you do get to keep the gaming brand that your company has developed over the years.
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@jaloopa I would be more happy with Gay Prostitue Pride, that's for sure. The Geforce Partner Program is a thing of evil and makes me look at AMD for future graphics card purchases.
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Such an stigmatized group is sure in need of some lovin'
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@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
@jaloopa I would be more happy with Gay Prostitue Pride, that's for sure. The Geforce Partner Program is a thing of evil and makes me look at AMD for future graphics card purchases.
I don't understand whether this affects retailers, system builders, or both. (The headline doesn't help with both Dell and HP are both retailers and system builders. Heck I think they're both OEMs of the lower-end video hardware, too.)
HardOCP might know what they're talking about, but goddamned they need to hire a writer who can explain why this is bad in less than 20,000 words.
Like: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/03/08/geforce_partner_program_impacts_consumer_choice/
The program isn't exclusive. Partners continue to have the ability to sell and promote products from anyone. Partners choose to sign up for the program, and they can stop participating any time. There's no commitment to make any monetary payments or product discounts for being part of the program.
So... why is this a big deal?
The objections are:
- A bunch of hearsay from OEMs he supposedly spoke to but none of whom agreed to be named (aka: nothing)
- A bunch of guesses as to what "having your gaming brand aligned with nVidia" actually means, with no documentation backing them
- Intel had a similar program in the past apparently and it was struck down by the courts
Does anybody have an actual explanation of why I should hate this GPP so much? I'm not saying there's nothing wrong here with nVidia's actions, but goddamned is that some piss-poor journalism.
EDIT: yes the above quote says that GPP members won't be issued bundles I guess? But why does that matter if GPP is non-exclusive anyway. Just become a member and sell it alongside your AMD products at retail anyway.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/16/watchdog-epa-scott-priutt-phone-booth-483164
Scott Priutt, one of Trump's weaselyist staffers, which is really saying something, spent $43,238.68 on a Get Smart-style Cone of Silence. Pales in comparison with some of his other skeevier spending, but it turns out: this one is clearly and explicitly illegal with no possible excuses. There's a $5000 limit on "furnishments"; beyond that Congress must be notified, and they were not.
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@blakeyrat The GPP seems to be just a way for Nvidia to put in anti-consumer practices to reinforce their already dominant position. I did pick some choice quotes from the article for the tl;dr crowd, but guess that wasn't enough.
Want to be first out of the gate with the latest Nvidia cards? Well, then you can't sell any AMD gaming cards. And since gaming cards sell a lot better than non-gaming cards (even if they perform the same) it does mean an unfair advantage for Nvidia.
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@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
Want to be first out of the gate with the latest Nvidia cards? Well, then you can't sell any AMD gaming cards.
How do you know that? Can you prove that?
Sure, HardOCP guessed that, but they didn't provide proof of it.
EDIT: and for the record, I read both the article you linked and the article it linked to.
@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
And since gaming cards sell a lot better than non-gaming cards (even if they perform the same) it does mean an unfair advantage for Nvidia.
It would if it did.
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@atazhaia said in In other news today...:
@blakeyrat The GPP seems to be just a way for Nvidia to put in anti-consumer practices to reinforce their already dominant position. I did pick some choice quotes from the article for the tl;dr crowd, but guess that wasn't enough.
Want to be first out of the gate with the latest Nvidia cards? Well, then you can't sell any AMD gaming cards
in that same brand of gaming PCs. And since gamingcardscomputers sell a lot better than non-gamingcardscomputers (even if they perform the same) it does mean an unfair advantage for Nvidia.FTFY - did you even actually read the HardOCP article?
tl;dr: NVidia's GPP program offers people marketing support for their Gaming PC lines, with the quid pro quo that those lines are exclusively NVidia powered. Small fish that don't have an already successful line (plus Acer) jump at the chance. Dell and HP believe their gaming PCs are doing well enough as is TYVM.
Now, if NVidia really does start withholding new GPUs from Dell and HP if they don't join the GPP with their existing gaming brands, then sure, it's a dick move. But nothing in that article rises above speculation that they might at some point in the future withhold supply. And even Acer has already launched a second gaming PC brand that uses AMD GPUs.
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
FTFY - did you even actually read the HardOCP article?
Yes; two of them.
@izzion said in In other news today...:
tl;dr: NVidia's GPP program offers people marketing support for their Gaming PC lines, with the quid pro quo that those lines are exclusively NVidia powered.
In my opinion, there is insufficient evidence of that. The article's nothing but hearsay, a screenshot that could come from anywhere, and guesses based on product line announcements.
Again: I"m not saying nVidia is some holy angel that would never do this, I'm just reading the news critically. And I'm not seeing anything here. Yet.
If you have a better source, please link to it.
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Sorry, my FTFY and question were directed at @Atazhaia - I didn't think you'd get pinged since it was in a quote. Should have cleaned it up better.
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@izzion It's both gaming PCs and gaming graphics cards, as Asus, MSI and Gigabyte have dropped AMD cards from their high-end gaming lines. So no Radeon-powered ROG or Aorus parts anymore.
On the other side of the coin, we see ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI have already laid their gaming brands at NVIDIA's feet. ASUS has already committed to remove all AMD GPU products that appear under its high end Republic of Gamers brand as it pertains to video cards. (AMD Motherboards will stay ROG.) All AMD cards will now carry its "AREZ" branding. It will be interesting how these cards are marketed through this new Arez brand although ASUS did have and "Ares" brand in the past. Will it be a "gaming brand?" Gigabyte has already been documented as to removing its Aorus gaming brand from AMD GPU products, and MSI has been spotted as doing the same, however neither company has openly announced a new brand specific to AMD GPUs.
Asus still only has ROG Strix Vega cards listed for now. MSI dropped AMD gaming so fast they only got Twin Frozr-cooled RX5xx cards under their Armor brand. Vega don't even got Twin Frozr. Gigabyte calls their Windforce-cooled Vega cards a generic Gaming.
Although MSI updated their Armor line to use the same red colour as their Gaming line. And the Gigabyte Gaming line is orange like the Aorus line. Hmm.
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The teen has been charged with "unauthorized use of a computer," which carries a possible 10-year prison sentence, for downloading approximately 7,000 freedom-of-information releases.
Hmmmm, "Freedom of information releases". Doesn't seem very "free" if he's being charged for accessing them...
Around the same time, his Grade 3 class adopted an animal at a shelter, receiving an electronic adoption certificate. That lead to a discovery on the classroom computer.
"The website had a number at the end, and I was able to change the last digit of the number to a different number and was able to see a certificate for someone else's animal that they adopted," he said. "I thought that was interesting."
The teenager's current troubles arose because he used the same trick on Nova Scotia's freedom-of-information portal, downloading about 7,000 freedom-of-information requests.
Fucking hell, the idiots that made the site should be up in court, not him.
It wasn't the first website the 19-year-old had saved for general interest.
He estimates he has around 30 terabytes of online data on hard drives in his home, the equivalent of "millions" of web pages.
TIL: 30TB = "millions" of webpages
Also, I love the use of quotation marks on "millions". Who are you quoting? Why did you feel the need to use quotation marks? Do you even know what you're "doing"?
He usually copies online forums such as 4chan and Reddit, where posts are either quickly erased or can become difficult to locate.
"I preserve things, I archive the internet. I have history on my computer, and all of that should be saved and preserved," he said.
Maybe someone should send this kid a link to meta.d
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@coldandtired "Unnecessarily" is subjective I suppose, but kudos for going there
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