In other news today...
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
On the other hand is this really something to be discussed in the house of parliament?
Is Marketing Man demonstrating just how much dignity he merits through the topics he chooses to discuss?
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@blakeyrat Didn't work everywhere though:
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
On the other hand is this really something to be discussed in the house of parliament?
Talking about underpants is a lot more grown up than most stuff that gets said in the HoP
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https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/
When I signed up for Apple Music, iTunes evaluated my massive collection of Mp3s and WAV files, scanned Apple’s database for what it considered matches, then removed the original files from my internal hard drive. REMOVED them. Deleted. If Apple Music saw a file it didn’t recognize—which came up often, since I’m a freelance composer and have many music files that I created myself—it would then download it to Apple’s database, delete it from my hard drive, and serve it back to me when I wanted to listen, just like it would with my other music files it had deleted.
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@anotherusername First I've ever heard of this, but neither am I surprised. Think of how people would respond to Microsoft doing this!
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The original files aren't changed.
If you don't count deleting them as changing them, sure, Apple.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
The original files aren't changed.
If you don't count deleting them as changing them, sure, Apple.
Or replacing them with something similar, but not the same.
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/me adds another reason to her list "Reasons to never buy any electronic device with a half-eaten fruit logo"
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@RaceProUK said in In other news today...:
"Reasons to never buy any electronic device with a half-eaten fruit logo"
The issue isn't the Apple device, it's Apple Music.
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@loopback0 Either way they're not getting my money
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@RaceProUK Fair enough, I just thought I'd point it out before anyone else thought this is something that automatically happens if you have an Apple device.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
something that automatically happens if you have an Apple device.
Well, to their point, you can't directly access music on an iDevice either. IIRC it essentially has to back it up, then restore the userdata (plus changes) afterward, because having the device allow access to "files" is bad
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
iDevice
I can access my music on my iPhone without using the Apple Music service, which is the thing causing the problem in that article.
Syncing music to my iPhone (and my 11 year old video iPod) can be done using USB - just like my Android devices. The only difference is I use iTunes for the iPhone/iPod. No Apple Music nor iCloud required.
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Funnily enough, all the music on my hard drive still plays on Winamp, and my Palm Zire 72.
Funnily enough, I can't copy music to my iPhone without installing iTunes.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
just like my Android devices. The only difference is I use iTunes for the iPhone/iPod.
I would contend that it's actually not just like android devices, as I've never been required to download and run specific software just to transfer data to and from any of my Android devices. Sure there's software that makes it "easier" (for certain definitions of easy).
Then again, I'm not talking about "Apple Music service", but go ahead and try to re-rail this thread out of context somehow...
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
my Palm Zire 72.
Good ol' days, when I re-encoded all my tracks to 32kbps so they could fit on the massive (</sarc>) 256MB SD card.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
I would contend that it's actually not just like android devices,
I would contend that the just like referred to using the USB cable.
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@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
my Palm Zire 72
Isn't that a bit too new to work in your timepod?
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
I would contend that the just like referred to using the USB cable.
Alright, now you've done it. I have no idea what you're saying anymore.
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@Tsaukpaetra Alright, so that sentence wasn't clear now I've read it back.
My point was that the similarity between my iDevices and non-iDevices is the use of the USB cable to sync music. The difference is, indeed, iTunes but I also pointed that out.
There is still ultimately a file on the device which the device can access.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
There is still ultimately a file on the device which the device can access.
Sure, that the device can access. But you would never be able to download said file back off of that device.
So (tying in the original article as an example), say I loaded up a song from my hard disk to my iPhone. Now, for whatever reason, my iTunes library is disappeared, and the sole remaining copy of that song can only be found on my iPhone. How do you get that song back into your computer?
Cite me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that unless you've subscribed to the Apple Cloud Music Whatever, your song is for all intents and purposes gone if you hook up your phone and try to sync (because iTunes deletes the stuff, right?).Now, with an Android, I plug my phone into almost any computer compatible with Universal Mass Storage devices, and copy the song back onto the computer. Magic!
Sync in the context of this conversation, implies that it is possible to make the songs (i.e. files) be the same on two (or more) devices, when in fact, the Apple idea is not actually a Sync, it's a one-way transfer that just so happens to let the target device access the content but nothing else.
Ergo, if I somehow managed to get any content into the device (except Pictures, apparently those get an out for some reason), it's stuck there and irretrievable by the lay user except through some arcane tools that can read iDevice backups.
This is not similar at all, but if your point was "I can use this wire to get music from one box to another", then yes, my Tape Recorder is similar too.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Sure, that the device can access
I misread your initial sentence as "having the device allowed access to" rather than "...allow access to"
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
How do you get that song back into your computer?
Hmmm. Good question. I suspect the answer is using software that isn't iTunes.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
my Palm Zire 72
Isn't that a bit too new to work in your timepod?
I bought an adapter for the parallel port. I just have to unplug the dot matrix printer when I want to transfer new tunes.
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@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
I bought an adapter for the parallel port. I just have to unplug the dot matrix printer when I want to transfer new tunes.
my Iomega zip Drive has pass-through!
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@DogsB Not your fault :), but it did "trigger" me. That and the fact that I am (and have been) in a serious anti-establishment funk for some time.
If, and when, the UK Government (of any stripe) allows the use of self drive cars on the road - for any reason, I seriously expect that ALL the extant conditions and laws with respect to driving, will still apply. Plus a host of new ones: The least of which would be that the "designated driver" (who will have to be in the driving seat) would be responsible and liable for anything that happens. There will even be a new classification of post mortem cause of death: Driver Error.
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@loose said in In other news today...:
There will even be a new classification of post mortem cause of death: Driver Error.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@RaceProUK said in In other news today...:
"Reasons to never buy any electronic device with a half-eaten fruit logo"
The issue isn't the Apple device, it's Apple Music.
It's just further proof that iTunes really is a virus.
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Meanwhile....
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@tufty They're English. Are we sure that it's mock outrage?
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@tufty They didn't name it "It's Bloody Cold Here" either. I'm outraged!
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
[NY Mayor arrested for stealing 111 road signs]
He was caught on 111? Bravo.
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Necromancy, but:
@LB_ said in In other news today...:
Weird mood swing aside, I don't know if it was actual sensitivity to WiFi or if my phone's WiFi hardware was emitting a high pitch sound that I didn't notice. I don't have that phone anymore and I've never had any other experience. After that horrible experience I really didn't want to have it happen again, so I never tried to reproduce the results. At the time I didn't even know my experience was rare, and it wasn't until later when I mentioned it to someone that I found out it was unusual.
Ultrasound or infrasound was my first guess for what was going on. After all, unlike most WiFi hardware, a phone has a powered speaker.
In college one of my roommates had an old CRT TV that would look like it was turned off when you shut off the Xbox attached to it, so it often got left on. I always got headaches when that happened, although it took me awhile to notice. It got to the point that I could tell the TV was on and I'd go turn it off. I'd often get asked, "What are you doing?" or "How did you know that was on?" I'd just say, "I can hear it." I couldn't really hear it, but I could sense when it was on. I assume it was something ultrasonic that didn't affect anybody else.
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@BaconBits Yeah, old CRT TVs are big offenders for mosquito tones and I'm glad they are seldom used anymore.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
my Iomega zip Drive has pass-through!
You didn't get the SCSI one? Lame.
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@FrostCat said in In other news today...:
You didn't get the SCSI one? Lame.
Sorry, I'm usually a cheap skater. You should see some of the 10-year-old equipment I use regularly... (I actually have three ATAPI zip drives actually installed in machines at the moment, but they haven't been turned on in a while)...
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
Are we sure that it's mock outrage?
It conforms to the same interface, but is entirely synthetic. Sounds like a
Mock
to me…
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@FrostCat said in In other news today...:
You didn't get the SCSI one? Lame.
I had the SCSI one. It had pass-through too.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
I had the SCSI one. It had pass-through too.
Yeah, but it was pass-through SCSI.
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@chozang said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
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@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
Or make him use Common Core. But cleaning an exploding head is probably messier...
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
Or make him use Common Core. But cleaning an exploding head is probably messier...
"If this square represents 10, and this square represents 100, how many of the first square do you feel will fit into the second square?"
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@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
Or make him use Common Core. But cleaning an exploding head is probably messier...
"If this square represents 10, and this square represents 100, how many of the first square do you feel will fit into the second square?"
I believe that depends on the relativity at which each train is moving.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
Or make him use Common Core. But cleaning an exploding head is probably messier...
"If this square represents 10, and this square represents 100, how many of the first square do you feel will fit into the second square?"
I believe that depends on the relativity at which each train is moving.
Assume a perfectly round, spherical train moving in a vacuum.
So... the Otherworld transports from Mortal Kombat: Annihilation
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@Lorne-Kates said in In other news today...:
@chozang said in In other news today...:
They should line him up against a wall with that clock-bomber kid and shoot them in the head, for the safety of everyone else.
Once you know the details of the clock incident, I think one could reasonably dispute whether they're equivalent situations, but superficially they're similar.
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@ben_lubar said in In other news today...:
579522 – Buy cots for the JS interns
Comment #27 seems particularly apposite.