WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They're not exclusive.
So you're polyamonitorous?
This forum truly harbous people with all kinds of lifestyle.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I have multiple desktops on multiple monitors.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I wonder if there are laptops with retractable extra monitors?
There was the Lenovo W700ds and W701ds, but that was ten years ago and they were the only two models like that ever released.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
there's a reason I try to never have to reboot the damn box because of how annoying it is to relaunch shit
And you're using Windows?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
there's a reason I try to never have to reboot the damn box because of how annoying it is to relaunch shit
And you're using Windows?
Don't worry, everything is where you left it.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
there's a reason I try to never have to reboot the damn box because of how annoying it is to relaunch shit
And you're using Windows?
To be fair, he never needs to reboot it. Windows has it covered.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
To be fair, he never needs to reboot
I seem to remember @Zerosquare needs to reboot him fairly often, though.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
To be fair, he never needs to reboot
I seem to remember @Zerosquare needs to reboot him fairly often, though.
Only the interaction side. Most tasks are distributed across many units.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Most tasks are distributed across many units.
you're just trying to justify your body size
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Most tasks are distributed across many units.
you're just trying to justify your body size
Some people scale up. Some people scale out. I just scale.
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The button goes to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-1909 for some reason, maybe it
was meant to go to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-2004 instead? Neither page really seems to have any explanation as to why it thinks my device is incompatible though. I already updated my display drivers to ones that specifically mentioned being compatible with the update.
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Neither page really seems to have any explanation as to why it thinks my device is incompatible though.
Did you really expect "learn more" button to be helpful? How old are you?
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Figured I'd go ahead and force update an older computer...
Welp, goodbye VMware v12... It's marked incompatible so you have to uninstall it before 2004 will install.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Figured I'd go ahead and force update an older computer...
Welp, goodbye VMware v12... It's marked incompatible so you have to uninstall it before 2004 will install.
:evil_raccoon:
So in this feature update we'll screw up... *shuffles cards* older VMware. Hoo boy, some people are going to be pissed. Ship it! Ship it!
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
:evil_raccoon:
Is there any other kind?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
:evil_raccoon:
Is there any other kind?
(not disagreeing!)
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@LB_ I've got a hold too, though the button sent me to the right page. I suspect it's the GameInput thing ("Gaming Services"); machines that don't deliberately block either gaming things or the Store will likely have it.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
though the button sent me to the right page
Do you have 1909 installed?
I'm wondering if it goes to the 1909 page if you've got 1903 installed, and the 2004 page if you've got 1909 installed.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
though the button sent me to the right page
Do you have 1909 installed?
Yup.
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So I just decided to update Microsoft Edge. Here's a screenshot from the installer:
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@dfdub Do you really want to know?
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@Mason_Wheeler
If I've learned anything from Lovecraft-themed role-playing games, it's that you should not, under any circumstances, investigate strange occurrences if you want to keep your sanity. I'm just not sure what that means for my PC now. I guess my only safe option is to throw it away.
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@TwelveBaud
That explains - nothing, actually. Unless the installer cannot deal with most locales and falls back to a pseudo locale instead of en_US in those cases.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Figured I'd go ahead and force update an older computer...
Welp, goodbye VMware v12... It's marked incompatible so you have to uninstall it before 2004 will install.
To be unfair to someone, I dug through VMWare's site and eventually found the OS compatibility page for Workstation (Pro or Player, allegedly). They claim to support up to Win10 1903, and make no mention of 1909 or 2004.
EDIT: But that was the page that also showed me an interesting thing. VMWare is evidently an American company. I can say that just from their version numbering.
After 12.X comes 14.X. No 13.X.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
though the button sent me to the right page
Do you have 1909 installed?
I'm wondering if it goes to the 1909 page if you've got 1903 installed, and the 2004 page if you've got 1909 installed.
I was on 1909 and it sent me to the 1909 page.
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
though the button sent me to the right page
Do you have 1909 installed?
I'm wondering if it goes to the 1909 page if you've got 1903 installed, and the 2004 page if you've got 1909 installed.
I was on 1909 and it sent me to the 1909 page.
That's that theory out of the window then.
edit: now it goes to 2004 for me.
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Curiously, on Sunday, I was offered 2004 on one of my four Win10-1909 machines. They are:
- A homebuilt i5-760/GT430 that I put together in 2011.
- A previously identical 2011 homebuild that now has a GTX1080(1).
- An Asus ROG laptop that I bought late in 2019, i7-9850H/RTX1660.
- A machine bought at the end of 2017 assembled by the vendor from parts I chose, nowadays i7-7820X/RTX2080Ti.
As noted, all on 1909. The 2011 homebuild with a GTX1080 got offered the update, but not the others. None of them are showing "We don't like something about your machine, so you'll have to wait."
I'm trying to work out why they offered only that one the update. OK, I mean, technically it's the oldest Win license of the four, activated minutes before the other 2011 machine (for both Win7 and the Win7-10 upgrade), but that's the only reason I can think of.
(1) I removed the 1080 from the fourth machine when I installed the RTX, and thought it was better to install it somewhere than leave it to rot.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
EDIT: But that was the page that also showed me an interesting thing. VMWare is evidently an American company. I can say that just from their version numbering.
After 12.X comes 14.X. No 13.X.A Norwegian company would go straight to 15
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Curiously, on Sunday, I was offered 2004 on one of my four Win10-1909 machines.
Of my 6 machines + 3 VMs, I was offered it on only 1.
edit: I forced it on 5 of those 6. Only one older Lenovo is in "trouble". Evidently 2004 didn't like the power management software and silently removed it. But the service is still trying to start. And googling says 'reinstall the software'. Yeah, that didn't do anything. And searching the registry hasn't helped.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Curiously, on Sunday, I was offered 2004 on one of my four Win10-1909 machines.
Of my 6 machines + 3 VMs, I was offered it on only 1.
On my personal desktop I'm being offered it, on my work laptop I'm being told it's blocked (I suspect it's the Conexant audio issue). Haven't checked my personal laptop though.
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@Douglasac said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
On my personal desktop I'm being offered it, on my work laptop I'm being told it's blocked
My personal desktop, an older Alienware desktop, is also being offered 2004, but my tablet, a Microsoft Surface, "isn't quite ready for it."
Both of my devices are on 1903, and I was planning on at least upgrading the tablet to 1909, but the 2004 update replaced it on the Settings panel, and getting whatever tool to install 1909 manually.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I forced it
I considered forcing it, but I figured that ignoring the one time even Windows is warning against it might be a Bad Idea™.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I forced it
I considered forcing it, but I figured that ignoring the one time even Windows is warning against it might be a Bad Idea™.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
my tablet, a Microsoft Surface, "isn't quite ready for it."
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For me, Windows is refusing to acknowledge any existence of 2004. So it just goes "No updates!" and doesn't even have any link to "The next big update is on the way." or "Your device isn't ready.".
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
For me, Windows is refusing to acknowledge any existence of 2004. So it just goes "No updates!" and doesn't even have any link to "The next big update is on the way." or "Your device isn't ready.".
That's typical. They do rolling releases, so you might not see it for months. (You can force it with the Update Assistant - that's what I did with the majority of my machines - just to get it over with)
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Got a notification the other day.
"There is a new version of ActivClient. You must install! Remove your tokens from your machine first. You can defer 3 times!"
I deferred it the other day, then after work I told it to install and left. Yesterday the thing popped up again. Shit. Apparently it failed. So this morning I go into the Software Center and tell it to update. Software Center tells me that it shouldn't need a restart. Huh...that would be the first Windows installation ever to do that, but cool.
So...it takes about 5 minutes to update () and then it tells me to restart. Fine. I didn't really believe I was getting out of that.
Then, of course, Windows takes 10 goddamn minutes of "Restarting :progress:" spinning to actually do anything. Fuck.
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Geez. The more I hear about ActivClient, the more I think it's been corrupted by needful doers working on each and everything, when Windows has a perfectly serviceable smartcard login, auditing, device management, and policy system that works a hell of a lot better.
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So the German (and a bit wordier) version of this shit popped up (at least) twice on my mom’s laptop on start-up. Since that came up with no user interaction, surprising her, talks about shit she hasn’t heard off and goes out if its way to hide the button to dismiss (due to careful placement and use of flat UI garbage) she had no idea what to do. I taught her to not click random shit she doesn’t understand (so as not to click on malware, phishing stuff, etc.) and with her not seeing the skip button this is a prime example.
Fuck you, Microsoft. Seriously, fuck you!
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Would you prefer "your settings are right how you left them", maybe?
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So the German (and a bit wordier) version of this shit popped up (at least) twice on my mom’s laptop on start-up. Since that came up with no user interaction, surprising her, talks about shit she hasn’t heard off and goes out if its way to hide the button to dismiss (due to careful placement and use of flat UI garbage) she had no idea what to do. I taught her to not click random shit she doesn’t understand (so as not to click on malware, phishing stuff, etc.) and with her not seeing the skip button this is a prime example.
Fuck you, Microsoft. Seriously, fuck you!
So, let's see:
- Set up Windows Hello ==> this is biometric login = meh, do not want plus I don't have the required hardware.
- Get Office 365 ready ==> I have an actual license for Office 2016 = meh, do not want
- Link your phone and PC ==> meh, do not want. I'm quite happy having the two being independent, plus why would I want Edge on my iPhone?
- Protect your files with OneDrive ==> meh, do not want, plus I'm not sure they're likely to want to store multiple 6GB .tgz backups of my Perforce (Helix Core) depot
- Do more across devices ==> what the fucking fuck does this even mean? = meh, do not want
Conclusion, if this one pops on any of my machines, it gets told to See Figure One. Oh, and where's the "Never again darken my door with this nonsense" button?
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Oh, and where's the "Never again darken my door with this nonsense" button?
No idea, but if anyone knows how to disable this garbage permanently, I’d be happy to know.
I mean, not like they wouldn’t enable it again after the next update anyway. User hostility is in their DNA.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I'm not sure they're likely to want to store multiple 6GB .tgz backups of my Perforce (Helix Core) depot
They might “helpfully” decide that you don't need those.
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@topspin I got that recently on this machine. Which I have setup Windows Hello on (because it has a fingerprint reader and that's the only way to activate that). Yeah, fuck off.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Link your phone and PC
I actually did that for a while. It was convenient to get texts on my PC (while the phone was in the kitchen charging). But my phone was chewing up battery - wasn't exactly sure what was doing it, but that was nuked as a probably cause.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I'm not sure they're likely to want to store multiple 6GB .tgz backups of my Perforce (Helix Core) depot
Max two, why would you do more than that?
Inject yo dawg meme here...
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@TwelveBaud said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Geez. The more I hear about ActivClient, the more I think it's been corrupted by needful doers working on each and everything, when Windows has a perfectly serviceable smartcard login, auditing, device management, and policy system that works a hell of a lot better.
Except that it can't apparently tell the difference between certs for authentication and for encrypting email.