WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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Yesterday some updates installed in the background and I was getting notifications that I needed to restart. No actual prompts. I had meant to restart after my backup finished after work but I forgot to go back. Whatever, I'll just restart it this morning before I start working.
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Start menu...restart. Nothing. Use the little restart thing in the task popup thingy. Negative.
Three second shutdown it is. Yet again.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Yesterday some updates installed in the background
I wonder...
Yup, there it is waiting for me... Since I have to walk the dogs now, let's just get it over with...
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@dcon mine were for 1809, of course. 1909 is waaaay too up to date for my company.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon mine were for 1809, of course. 1909 is waaaay too up to date for my company.
If it's on the LTSC, which is probably wise for Enterprises, then 1809 is the latest anyway.
edit: We were rolling out the previous LTSC version, which is 1607, before the whole COVID-19 mess happened.
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@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
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@boomzilla The easiest way to tell is that your Windows has been in the exact same broken state for months now instead of breaking in different ways every other week.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Settings -> System -> About.
Should show the Edition as something like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB/LTSC.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon mine were for 1809, of course. 1909 is waaaay too up to date for my company.
This is my home machine. The company one is usually only a couple weeks behind. Except I rarely boot into it since my dev env is ubuntu...
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Settings -> System -> About.
Should show the Edition as something like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB/LTSC.Nope, just Windows 10 Enterprise.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Settings -> System -> About.
Should show the Edition as something like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB/LTSC.Nope, just Windows 10 Enterprise.
then
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Settings -> System -> About.
Should show the Edition as something like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB/LTSC.Nope, just Windows 10 Enterprise.
then
Eh, as I suspected, it's just my corporate IT holding them back. Either just really shit at testing or there's something we use somewhere that doesn't like the newer versions.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@loopback0 that would explain it, I guess. How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Settings -> System -> About.
Should show the Edition as something like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB/LTSC.Nope, just Windows 10 Enterprise.
then
Eh, as I suspected, it's just my corporate IT holding them back. Either just really shit at testing
Microsoft? Yes.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Google --> "which versions of Windows are LTSB / LTSC?"
As far as I can tell, that's the only way.
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
How would I tell if I'm on LTSC?
Google --> "which versions of Windows are LTSB / LTSC?"
As far as I can tell, that's the only way.
Uh...but I'd still have to know what version I had. Which was what I was asking how to do.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Settings -> System -> About
Works for me
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@boomzilla Run the command "winver.exe" from either the command line or the start menu. It will tell you what build you have.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Run the command "winver.exe" from either the command line or the start menu. It will tell you what build you have.
Yeah, that doesn't pop up anything about LTSC either.
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@boomzilla Then you don't have LTSC. LTSC versions have LTSC in the name.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear right. I just didn't know where to look before.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Then you don't have LTSC.
"Your test results came back. They're negative for LTSC. I'm sorry."
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Then you don't have LTSC. LTSC versions have LTSC in the name.
Or LTSB because Microsoft couldn't keep the naming the same for more than 2 versions of a product that's intended to remove some of the more pointless changes.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Then you don't have LTSC. LTSC versions have LTSC in the name.
Or LTSB because Microsoft couldn't keep the naming the same for more than 2 versions of a product that's intended to remove some of the more pointless changes.
Be glad they didn't put any at the end. And between all letters.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And between all letters.
MicrostWindows10
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Microst
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Microst
I blame... Uh... Packet loss. Yeah.
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Windows is deciding that it should read and write the mkv files in this folder, just because I browsed it...
What the fuck?
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@Tsaukpaetra Writing thumbnails or some other sort of metadata?
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Writing thumbnails or some other sort of metadata?
Does creating a thumbnail require reading (and writing!) the whole of the file?
Just for shits and giggles I started a directory listing (aka
TREE
) of the drive and...Eat it, drive! You will be rewritten!
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Our
usersexternal unpaid testing facilities are asking for MKV support, to view their pirated animes in Groove or whatever we're calling it these days. Maybe we should implement it. It's an open standard.
Jolly good idea. But make it a user mode driver and execute with SYSTEM privileges.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
What the fuck?
Oh, I will note that constantly hammering the drive tends to overload the cheap-ass enclosure I have it in, so of course it just hard-disconnected in the middle of its bit smashing. Hope it's okay.
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@Tsaukpaetra It's hard to say what goes through Microst's minds.
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@Tsaukpaetra On any other OS, I'd suspect a cryptolocker.
Rationale:
When deciding which files to encrypt, for maximum leverage, maybe try those files that the user has viewed. They're just bound to be important work documents.
Encrypting the whole Documents folder may bork the system, and may not actually catch the files that you consider important.
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@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I'd suspect a cryptolocker.
I thought so too, but that's been happening on my work PC too. See here
edit: Which would be fucking amazing too, because it's a BitLocker volume too.
Double Encryption Power!
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@Tsaukpaetra BitLocker does nothing in this case, since it's already open and mounted.
: Maybe Windows is embedding watermarks to your pirated videos.
Did you say that you have a backup? Maybe checksum the files in that on another machine, and compare to checksums on this machine?
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@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Maybe checksum the files in that on another machine, and compare to checksums on this machine?
The two are separate and unrelated, firewall gapped except through a remote desktop gateway (and I'm not sure how many viruses can take advantage of that kind of connection).
@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
BitLocker does nothing in this case, since it's already open and mounted.
Well no, of course not. I'm just making light of what someone might do like that.
@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Did you say that you have a backup?
It's my play drive, nothing truly important on it. Well, that I know of. That's why the encryption password is merely my name, instead of any actual password.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's why the encryption password is merely my name, instead of any actual password.
That's fine, your name is as hard to guess as a good password
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's why the encryption password is merely my name, instead of any actual password.
That's fine, your name is as hard to guess as a good password
Once you know the trick, it's really not....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's why the encryption password is merely my name, instead of any actual password.
That's fine, your name is as hard to guess as a good password
Once you know the trick, it's really not....
Use this one secret trick to guess @Tsaukpaetra's password!
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Status: My PC's fan just went to High. For some reason.
I'm not doing anything overly intensive though...
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@Tsaukpaetra Just enough to take the enclosure over the threshold temperature? I guess that could also be triggered partially by an accumulation of dust making the fans just a bit too inefficient at low speed.
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Just enough to take the enclosure over the threshold temperature? I guess that could also be triggered partially by an accumulation of dust making the fans just a bit too inefficient at low speed.
Maybe. But now it's down to very-low (as it should be), under the same apparent load averages...
Edit: Though, I'm probably being lied to...
I can't simultaneously be transferring 50 MB/s data and 0 KB/s...
I really do need a refresh I think...
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@Zerosquare at least it's giving you a choice!
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@Zerosquare It took me a bit to figure out what they were happy about, since the "power button" menu has looked like that for a while.
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Windows just updated something in the background. I know because the screen went dark for a moment and then a cmd window flashed in view briefly after that. Also, USB devices disconnected.
...So glad I was not in the middle of debugging, like I was an hour back. This is not how a work machine OS is supposed to function!
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:"A work machine, you say? I assume you're running Windows 10 Enterprise, then?
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Oh, you aren't? Well, too bad then."
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@Zerosquare I was going to say "workstation", but then remembered that Microsoft only considers them Workstations(tm) if they run LTSB.
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@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
This is not how a work machine OS is supposed to function!
(closest thing to
:microsoft:
)
: Updates successfully applied.
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@dcon might do instead?
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@acrow said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
and then a cmd window flashed in view briefly after that. Also
I always wondered about that: can this stupid OS not run it's background batch jobs without popping up a console window visible to the user?! I haven't tried, but is the close button enabled and can a normal user actually kill it if he's quick enough?