What favorite UI element will we lose next? Everything?
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#this is text with a # and a <big> tag. Works exactly as you would expect.
this is normal text
this is embiggened text
this is double embiggened
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#this is text with a # and a <big> tag. Works exactly as you would expect.
this is normal text
this is embiggened text
this is double embiggened
Huh. It sort of works…
Normal paragraph:
AAAAAAAAAAH1 type 1:
#AAAAAAAAAAH2 type 1:
##AAAAAAAAAAH3 type 1:
###AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAA
This is beginning to look stupid…
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@Lorne_Kates said:
@Jaloopa said:
ONLY MODS CAN WHISPER, THE REST OF US HAVE TO SHOUT
##I'LL SHOUT LOUDER THAN YOU BY USING EXTRA # SYMBOLS!!!!
Fuck. I guess two # to shout at level 2 doesn't work. Must be a bug.
Our frontrunners for new forum platforms also use markdown. You might want to actually bother learning how it works because this schtick is getting old.
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Our frontrunners for new forum platforms also use markdown. You might want to actually bother learning how it works because this schtick is getting old.
I'll gladly learn their version of Markup. I refuse to learn discomarkuphtmlbbcodehwatever, and princy pals alone.
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Yes but they do a less terrible job of it.
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Our frontrunners for new forum platforms also use markdown.
Markdown can be done well, like Confluence does it.
Does it use good Markdown or shitty Markdown, that's the question. That doesn't make the concept of Markdown less stupid in a world where WYSIWYG editors exist, but.
Then again, if it uses the actual "Markdown-branded Markdown" where typing an underscore gives you bold instead of underline, then it's already a lost cause.
Markdown.
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Yes but they do a less terrible job of it.
Probability nearly demands this be true. Still, we haven't really tried to abuse them like we've done here.
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Our frontrunners for new forum platforms also use markdown.
Do they let you turn it off, though?
#504 OK?
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Found a new thing that's now blocked with this update (at least on mobile).
The pop-up that lets you enter a topic at the first or last post. The "unread post count" bubble covers the actual post count, which is where the pop-up is launched from.
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mobile
**UR MOBILING TOO WRONGY DIFFERENT!!!!**strong text
Filed under: How's the new forums coming? Now a clickable hyperhotlink!
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The pop-up that lets you enter a topic at the first or last post. The "unread post count" bubble covers the actual post count, which is where the pop-up is launched from.
I don't think I'd ever heard of this feature until now.
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Oh, yeah, that thing that I accidentally trigger once in a while and get confused by both how that happened and what it's for.
I'd say it's horrible discoverability, but it's such an useless feature that there's no point in bothering. But something like "entering the topic from search where you left off" or "preventing you from jumping in the middle of the thread and losing your position when you follow a notification"? Nooo, that's not the priority at all!
Oh, and when you have two IE windows on Modern UI side by side, you can scroll the composer out of view and have to scroll back down to bring it back, because Discourse apparently has very little concept of nonstandard screen sizes.
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@abarker said:
Our frontrunners for new forum platforms also use markdown.
Do they let you turn it off, though?
Not that I can find.
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The pop-up that lets you enter a topic at the first or last post.
The what now?
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Markdown can be done well, like Confluence does it.
I thought that used a variation on one of the wiki markup styles? (The same style is used in other Atlassian products like JIRA, which at least means they aren't reinventing the wheel every time.) They handle cut-n-paste from other things fairly well.
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The what now?
The box the top arrow is pointing to, which you see by clicking on the number the bottom arrow is pointing to:
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I have never seen that before.
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It's been there for a long while. What you clicked on to bring it up has changed at least once, though.
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It looks like a single date/time that's been laid over two separate boxes. I'd almost expect the boxes to change the time or something.
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Wow, that's really really disco-verable.
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Given how slow/unstable Discourse can be on mobile, it's nice to have an option to jump straight to the end of a topic to unwatch it, meaning only dealing with one spinner that can turn into an infinispinner instead of two.
Or at least it used to be, until now.
Though I guess I found a workaround, if you click on the last activity time, it takes you to the "last" post. I haven't tested what it does with a topic that has newer posts than shown, but I'm sure the discodevs haven't either.
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Markdown can be done well
Does "good" Markdown number your list starting with a 5 if you type a five?
- what?
- huh?
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NodeBB's markdown would render that list like this:
5. what?
6. huh?
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What sane shit is that?
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NodeBB's markdown would render that list like this:
5. what?
6. huh?It's beautiful.
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- HTML rules
- Markdown drools
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and the joke account that's occssionally sock puppeted by someone is @wood
I'm not a puppet. I'm a very busy person with many Discoursey things to do that doesn't leave me with much time to come here and righteously abuse you lot.
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WHOA THERE.
He (@wood) said (in another topic) that a keyboard shortcut is a fully adequate replacement for an important easy-to-reach button?IS HE COMPLETELY ENTIRELY POSITIVELY NUTS?!
Was Da Vinci, Newton, Einstein or Farnsworth? All considered crazy in their time, but acknowledged as geniuses now. You plebs are just much slower in realising my genius than those on Meta.D, but you'll get there eventually.
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Did @PJH / @boomzilla use magic or did the discodevs re-add something?!
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did the discodevs re-add something?!
IIRC it was a bug that they weren't visible to most users, so presumably they just fixed it. For now.
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its your opinion, I hate wysiwyg editors
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They're massively better than this... whatever the fuck it is we have now.
Part HTML, part MARKUPDOWNLEFTRIGHT, part WYSIWTF.
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its your opinion, I hate wysiwyg editors
Well Community Server circa 2008 had both, so you could choose for yourself whether you wanted to use WYSIWYG or writing tags.
AMAZING MIRACLE 2008 TECHNOLOGY NOW LOST TO HUMANITY! apparently.
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what is your favorite option for migration from Discourse?
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I hate wysiwyg editors
A plain text editor is WYSIWYG. You don't see very much fancy stuff, but you don't get it either.
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what is your favorite option for migration from Discourse?
Retyping it all by hand. It's faster and less error prone than any output Discourse will provide.
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I asked because both nodebb and flarum use markdown, is any other forum being considered? Is wysywyg important enough to make you consider another option? @blakeyrat?
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Markdown is shit.
The concept of an easy-to-type markup language that resembles the manual markup done in ASCII systems is actually a good concept.
The markup language named Markdown:
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Could not be further from that ideal it was supposedly founded with (i.e. underscore != underline)
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Is shitty in general
The huge mystery is why otherwise-intelligent people keep adopting it. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? Oh yeah. IT. The industry of morons who love to make shit worse every year.
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The concept of an easy-to-type markup language that resembles the manual markup done in ASCII systems is actually a good concept.
I don't know. At least BBCode or HTML are roughly consistent - all you need to remember are the tag names, and whether you're inserting boldface, a link, a quote, or an image, it's always either
[something][/something]
or[something other=thing] [/something]
if that's not enough.On the other hand, imagine you're Joe Average without much experience in computers, and you try to format the text. "Okay, so bold is... an asterisk, huh? Fine, I'll try to remember... Oh, and italic is a slash? Okay, it kinda makes sense, it's slanted... Now, were the links square brackets, then round, or the other way around?"
It's mighty confusing unless you already know the conventions of ASCII text, and even then anything that came around after BBS era just ends up slapped on the top of it with little rhyme or reason.
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On the other hand, imagine you're Joe Average without much experience in computers, and you try to format the text. "Okay, so bold is... an asterisk, huh? Fine, I'll try to remember... Oh, and italic is a slash? Okay, it kinda makes sense, it's slanted... Now, were the links square brackets, then round, or the other way around?"
They'd use the WYSIWYG interface, though.
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They'd use the WYSIWYG interface, though.
If there is one, yes. But then why drop down to Markdown instead of raw HTML when the only people who would need to see the markup are advanced users anyway?
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Saying X is a good idea doesn't imply Y is a bad idea. Goddamned.
On the other hand, imagine you're Joe Average without much experience in computers, and you try to format the text. "Okay, so bold is... an asterisk, huh? Fine, I'll try to remember... Oh, and italic is a slash? Okay, it kinda makes sense, it's slanted... Now, were the links square brackets, then round, or the other way around?"
Well gee!!!!! I wonder if we can solve this problem using that miracle 2008 WYSIWYG technology from the magical science fiction future-past!
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Now, were the links square brackets, then round, or the other way around?"
I still don't know that one after a year on Discourse. I'd use the link button, but a) the buttons are depreciated or something according to Jeff, and b) the icon is unrelated to a hypertext link. It's a chain, right? That kind of makes sense but is probably quite tightly coupled to speaking English. Do other languages use the same word for part of a chain and a thing you click on in a web page?
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@Maciejasjmj said:
Now, were the links square brackets, then round, or the other way around?"
I still don't know that one after a year on Discourse.
I resemble that remark. I use
<a href="...">some text</a>
instead.I'd use the link button, but a) the buttons are depreciated or something according to Jeff, and b) the icon is unrelated to a hypertext link. It's a chain, right? That kind of makes sense but is probably quite tightly coupled to speaking English. Do other languages use the same word for part of a chain and a thing you click on in a web page?
Not in the languages I know.
Feature request: use as icon for the hypertext button.