Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition
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A crash in Southern Germany, one person dead, 9 severely wounded. An autonomous test vehicle (BMW) involved:
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@BernieTheBernie Was the red firetruck in the picture involved or arrived to the scene afterwards?
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@Applied-Mediocrity TFA did not mention any code-sharing between BMW and Tesla.
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@BernieTheBernie It's probably a benign looking
left-turn
on npm
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@BernieTheBernie It's probably a benign looking
left-turn
on npmObviously it created a conflict in the
turn-signal
module.
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@dcon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
the
turn-signal
module.That must be an expensive — probably a monthly subscription — option, because hardly any BMW drivers seem to have it installed.
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@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@dcon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
the
turn-signal
module.That must be an expensive — probably a monthly subscription — option, because hardly any BMW drivers seem to have it installed.
Nah, it's installed.
try{ turn-signal(left-turn()) } catch { // BUG: 35431342: Fixed crash }
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@BernieTheBernie BMW states otherwise and says that this car only had Level 2 systems on board.
Considering the number of people on board of the BMW, I'm also not so sure about the qualifications of the driver - according to the report, there were 6 people on board, 5 adults and a baby. Which raises the question where all those people were seated because the wreck from the photo does not look like a 6-seater.
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@Rhywden the iX is indeed a 5 seater, although I'm not sure how you got to 6.
This article also says 5 were in the car.
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@loopback0 Ah, the original article was unclear who was seated in which car.
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@loopback0 Gotta love this final sentence in the article:
On the plus side, there was no fire igniting post-crash, which confirms BMW's electric vehicles are as safe as they can be.
(my bolding) Right. Causing 4 vehicles to crash, killing one person, and causing a Citroen to burst into flames... Sounds "as safe as they can be"...
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@dcon I guess they just meant that the iX didn't catch fire.
Especially noteworthy, considering this article:
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@Rhywden said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Level 2 systems
Human factors say level 2 should be strictly prohibited on any and all public roads. There is basically zero chance the driver stays vigilant enough to take over in half a second when things start going wrong.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Rhywden said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Level 2 systems
Human factors say level 2 should be strictly prohibited on any and all public roads. There is basically zero chance the driver stays vigilant enough to take over in half a second when things start going wrong.
That's why my VW has capacitive sensors in the steering wheel (and yells at you if you leave both hands off for too long) and also has a camera which watches if I'm looking where I'm driving (again, yelling at me if I don't look into the driving direction for too long at higher speeds).
I'm not sure if you've actually used these systems - if not then, frankly speaking, you do not know what you're talking about. On the Autobahn I'm now able to pay more attention because I don't have to constantly watch my speed in order to stay at a safe braking distance behind the car in front of me. Thus I can use the side and rear mirrors more often to analyze the traffic around me.
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@Rhywden said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
On the Autobahn I'm now able to pay more attention
Ah, but you're one of us. It's those people on the front page we worry about! They'll be reading the morning updates while driving instead.
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@dcon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Rhywden said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
On the Autobahn I'm now able to pay more attention
Ah, but you're one of us. It's those people on the front page we worry about! They'll be reading the morning updates while driving instead.
Again, that's what the camera watching you is for. It's simply not possible - I've experienced it myself: If I fiddled too long with the radio I'll get a big red honking warning to pay attention.
I also don't see where that's making the big difference to now - just today I saw someone blasting through a 30 zone at 50 while typing something into his phone. And that old rustbucket of a car definitely wasn't smart.
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@Rhywden True. There's definitely a lot of stupid out there... I think it's time to crawl back into a safe place with a SciFi book and escape the world...
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@dcon said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Rhywden said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
On the Autobahn I'm now able to pay more attention
Ah, but you're one of us. It's those people on the front page we worry about! They'll be reading the morning updates while driving instead.
I didn't get a self-driving vehicle not to procrastinate. I'll be reading the prior afternoon's updates.
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Not sure if I posted it some when in the past. Anyways,
In the narrow Rhine valley, the electrified railway runs parallel to federal road B42 - on this picture, the rails are just behind the stone wall. Unfortunately, due to lack of space, some poles for the overhead electrical lines have to be placed in the stone wall.
I fail to understand how someone could manage to bend it so much...
OTOH, I do not know of anyone having been Edisoned by such an accident.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
I fail to understand how someone could manage to bend it so much...
There's not much in that picture to use for scale, but the main bend looks rather high above the road surface — maybe 3–4 m — higher than most vehicles. My question, even more than how did they bend it that much, is how did they manage to bend it that high?
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@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@BernieTheBernie said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
I fail to understand how someone could manage to bend it so much...
There's not much in that picture to use for scale, but the main bend looks rather high above the road surface — maybe 3–4 m — higher than most vehicles. My question, even more than how did they bend it that much, is how did they manage to bend it that high?
Truck drivers.
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@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Truck drivers.
They must really hate anything rail-related considering how much they like fucking up that. Stopping on crossings, 11'8", etc...
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@Atazhaia said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Truck drivers.
They must really hate anything rail-related considering how much they like fucking up that. Stopping on crossings, 11'8", etc...
Case in point: Currently the south of Hamburg is largely disconnected from the north - at least if you want to take the metro. Because some trucker decided to crash his truck on an important bridge, said truck then went up in flames and the result is a huge mess which will continue to wreak havoc on this line until mid-September.
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@boomzilla Fixed it for you:
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@boomzilla Need not be wrong: several intersections are not at the same level, so you may leave the road to the right, then drive along a ramp over / below a bridge to the left, and continue in that road then.
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@Dragoon somewhere
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Probably, but I didn't see it in this thread so
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@Dragoon Controls with tactile feedback, that you don't have to look at, are better than touch sensitive flat glass in a situation where you want to keep your eyes on the road?
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@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
somewhere
Internet of Shit thread
I decided it was the best place
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Yet another rental car horror story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVAi0pBFAgAverage speed:
305.56 MPH for 72323.53 MPH for 68 hours without stopping. In a GMC Yukon Denali. In and around Toronto.
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@HardwareGeek Bad thing is that both
mile
andmeter
are abbreviated with a simplem
.
Always wondered on British motorways why exit signs are shown just half a meter before the exit, and why that half a meter is so long...
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@BernieTheBernie Or you could go with a nordic mile (mil), which is 10km long. That would be a very long half a meter!
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@Atazhaia said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@BernieTheBernie Or you could go with a nordic mile (mil), which is 10km long. That would be a very long half a meter!
To make lengths even more the English linear mil is something like 25 micrometers.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@HardwareGeek Bad thing is that both
mile
andmeter
are abbreviated with a simplem
.Though
mile
should be abbreviated asmi
, notm
. But yeah, when the most common uses of the abbreviation (road signs) use the wrong one, discussing what the right one is is just ing (which, of course, is what we do and why I had to post that:self-
).
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@remi said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when the most common uses of the abbreviation (road signs) use the wrong one,
Filed under:
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@Zerosquare Assuming "70km/h zone starts 200m from here" based off similar combination in Sweden.
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@Atazhaia Around here the sign would say just
70
. Black-on-white number in red circle is defined to mean speed limit and all speeds are in km/h, so no reason to write the unit at all. Writingkm
there just wastes space besides being wrong.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Atazhaia Around here the sign would say just
70
. Black-on-white number in red circle is defined to mean speed limit and all speeds are in km/h, so no reason to write the unit at all. Writingkm
there just wastes space besides being wrong.Yeah, skips the silly km. Though I've seen it in Denmark. I think I've bored a bunch of people that travelled with me by ranting about how its wrong
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@Atazhaia said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Zerosquare Assuming "70km/h zone starts 200m from here" based off similar combination in Sweden.
Could also be '70km/h for the next 200m starting from here", though usually that would have up-arrows on both sides of the distance.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Writing km there just wastes space besides being wrong.
... and can still be seen on signs which were mounted before that reform (i.e. in western countries the majority of signs)...
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Atazhaia Around here the sign would say just
70
. Black-on-white number in red circle is defined to mean speed limit and all speeds are in km/h, so no reason to write the unit at all. Writingkm
there just wastes space besides being wrong.No, see, you are forbidden for traveling more than 70 km over the next 200 m. For wear prevention reasons, you see.
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@BernieTheBernie No signs were mounted before the reform. Around here, metric system was made standard by law from beginning of 1876, long before speed limits even existed.
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@Deadfast said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
I drove past an interesting programmable road sign this morning.
It said:
HELLO
ROAD CLOSURE
8TH JUNE 8AM-4PM
No idea why it was telling me about a road closure that happened two months ago, but at least it was friendly about it!
Evil idea: You make road messages puzzles, and the driver has to figure it out. So in the above, you replace "CLOSURE" with
// global scope const e = 10; function sum(a) { return function (b) { return function (c) { // outer functions scope return function (d) { // local scope return a + b + c + d + e; }; }; }; } console.log(sum(1)(2)(3)(4)); // log 20
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@jinpa finally, some clarity.
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@boomzilla
Please take this type of content to the garage
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@Luhmann said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@boomzilla
Please take this type of content to the garage"Turn Left" used to be the name the category for TL4 people.