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Today's XKCD implies that there was a winner in the Emacs-Vim war
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
Today's XKCD implies that there was a winner in the Emacs-Vim war
indeed.
in exactly the same way that there was a winner of the battle of Koom Valley
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@RaceProUK I know much more vim users than emacs. And much more notepad++ than vim. And much more people on IDEs than notepad++. Never seen somebody use sublime text in person.
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
Today's XKCD implies that there was a winner in the Emacs-Vim war
Everyone is a loser in that war.
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@wharrgarbl Thinking about it logically, GUI editors (particularly early ones) had loads of emacs-style keyboard shortcuts. Even modern IDEs are littered with them.
However, the vim-style controls fell into disuse along with vim itself, so those who prefer that style don't have much of an alternative.
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@PleegWat I still prefer wordstar shortcuts.
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@PleegWat What's the difference between the two? I vaguely remember going through a course on one of them when first learning Unix type stuff, but couldn't tell you which one it was
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Status: Is the forum safe from localization template exploits or what?
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
There's only one song I hate more. And I bet no-one can guess what it is.
Enrique Inglesias, Hero?
Because anybody who doesn't hate that song with every fibre of their being is wrong in the head
Have you ever heard the Spanish version?
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Is the forum safe from localization template exploits or what?
Bagsy not testing it! I uh... have already done enough
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emacs (sometimes jokingly called EscMetaAltCtrlShift, makes heavy use of keyboard shortcuts with multiple modifier keys.
vim uses a modal system, where unmodified or shifted keys are used, and text is entered in a separate insert mode. Vim additionally uses a command-line system for more complicated commands, but this may apply to emacs as well (I never used emacs).
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
What's the difference between the two?
vim is trying to be an excellent text editor.
Emacs is trying to do everything and almost succeeding, it's only missing a good text editor
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
it's only missing a good text editor
so is vim
nano FTW
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@TimeBandit Notepad 4 Eva
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit
NoteWordpad 4 Eva
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit Notepad 4 Eva
If you said Notepad++ I could agree.
But Notepad is the same that came with Windows 3.0.
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
it's only missing a good text editor
so is vim
nano FTW
I actually use nano for all my Linux admin. It's user friendly unlike vi which is positively hostile and requires you to have a cheat-sheet to use the damn thing (or a better memory than I have).
I haven't used Emacs yet, will have to give it a go someday. Edit: I've heard it's a great distro
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
But Notepad is the same that came with Windows 3.0.
Yeah, everyone should be using Write instead
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
But Notepad is the same that came with Windows 3.0.
Yeah, everyone should be using Write instead
When I'm stuck on Windows, I use SciTE
At least, it can convert between different line end characters, understand UTF-8 and do syntax highlighting of a lot of languages (and more can be added)
When I use notepad, it's one like that
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said in The Official Status Thread:
@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
There's only one song I hate more. And I bet no-one can guess what it is.
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Or its more depressing and terrifying cousin, Whiskers on roses and raindrops on kittens ...
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@RaceProUK ooh, is it the Birdy Song? Or Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polkadot Bikini?
At least it's not a one eyed one horn flying purple people eater.
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@RaceProUK Hmm⦠you realise this means we need to break out the truly big guns of loathing?
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Status: got to stay another hour and a half for the sake of my timesheet. It's the evening before a four-day weekend, half the office were on leave anyway and nearly all the rest have left early. Me? I seem to have entirely run out of concentration or focus. And I doubt I can get very far on the thing I'm supposed to be doing anyway because the other guy who's been working on it has done something completely different that I expected and I can't work out why, but he's away today so I can't ask him anything.
Nonetheless, I must rack up my quota of billable hours: the company I actually work for allow flextime, but although my employer's happy for me to work whatever schedule I like over the course of a week they won't accept carrying a flex balance between weeks.
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Status: Today I feel like a child whining on a long car trip--"Are we done yet?" Discussions with my department head (and co-teacher) tend to do that to me.
Ways to stress me out include:
- Assume I'm acting out of malice and bad faith and accuse me of lying.
- Refuse to accept the possibility that I'm correct. I make mistakes, sure. But my batting record isn't 0.0.
- Save up small grievances for weeks and spring them in other conversations. Bonus points if enough time has passed that there's no way for me to defend myself (and if I do, accuse me of lying about it).
- Make every conversation an interrogation.
- Attack me if I communicate and ask questions (for not knowing what I'm doing)
- Attack me if I don't communicate (for not communicating).
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
notepad
I prefer to replace notepad with notepad2 for the times that I need just a minimal text editor.
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@RaceProUK Wait, so if I guess this song, you hate something else more than it, which makes me wonder about your sanity...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw
tr is he has more songs now.
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@CarrieVS said in The Official Status Thread:
although my employer's happy for me to work whatever schedule I like over the course of a week they won't accept carrying a flex balance between weeks.
My company allows building up flex hours and taking up to one flex day a month, which is pretty cool
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I love my office.
http://i.imgur.com/WvKsoKp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FJr1vS0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PmLEisN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/44u95uQ.jpg
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@Benjamin-Hall sounds like this forum conversations
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
Enrique Inglesias, Hero?
*shudders*
A truly terrible song. But not one I hate more than You're Beautiful.
Not ο It's a small world afterall
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@wharrgarbl Thinking about it logically, GUI editors (particularly early ones) had loads of emacs-style keyboard shortcuts. Even modern IDEs are littered with them.
However, the vim-style controls fell into disuse along with vim itself, so those who prefer that style don't have much of an alternative.
I think there's a reason. Most editors don't have modes - so emacs keys make sense. vi is modal. When I started my career doing testing on AT&T unix, I used vi for editing. But emacs mode in the shell.
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
Most editors don't have modes And as a result are WRONG
FTFY
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
At least, it can convert between different line end characters,
So can vim
:se ff=dos
:se ff=unix
If the file had mixed endings, you need to also do:
:%s/(ctrl+V)(return)//
(oh how I love editing our unix-eol files on windows in VS where a copy/paste will bring in the windows-eol. vim at least converts the paste into the right format. yes, it's because we refuse to use git properly.)
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
At least, it can convert between different line end characters,
So can vim
:se ff=dos
:se ff=unix
If the file had mixed endings, you need to also do:
:%s/(ctrl+V)(return)//
Yeah, but with SciTE I don't have to remember cryptic commands
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@aliceif said in The Official Status Thread:
@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
There's only one song I hate more. And I bet no-one can guess what it is.
Enrique Inglesias, Hero?
Because anybody who doesn't hate that song with every fibre of their being is wrong in the head
Have you ever heard the Spanish version?
No. Not sure if it would be better or worse in a version where you couldn't understand the words
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Status: Tried to write a quick and dirty PS function to make "search all of the corporate domains for this CNAME" a lot easier than me doing manual nslookups in each domain. First attempt at the function (which I called Resolve-DNSAlias) wound up hanging forever.
Took me two passes through the debugger to figure out why the function was just hanging on a simple "iterate through the domains" call to Resolve-DNSName and then aggregating the results and outputting in a single table...
foreach ( $Domain in $SearchDomains ) { $lookupTarget = $DNSAlias + "." + $Domain $results = Resolve-DNSAlias $lookupTarget
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Status: yay, I've been published!
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@Maciejasjmj I see your name there but what did you do for that video?
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@Maciejasjmj I see your name there but what did you do for that video?
Subtitling. YT lets people contribute subs for other videos, and I've been testing it on Computerphile and I think Simone Giertz.
Took them three months to review and accept, but hey, I'm totally putting that on my resume.
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@Maciejasjmj OIC. I'm kind of surprised there weren't already English subtitles (assuming "Angielski" isn't Polish for "Polish") on the video.
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't have to remember cryptic commands
You're used to that as a Linux user, Shirley?
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't have to remember cryptic commands
You're used to that as a Linux user, Shirley?
I'm a KDE user, not a PowerShell one
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't have to remember cryptic commands
You're used to that as a Linux user, Shirley?
I'm a KDE user, not a PowerShell one
TouchΔ
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@loopback0 He means his software works slightly worse every time it updates.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 He means his software works slightly worse every time it updates.
He said he wasn't a Windows user?