WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
PSA: a security vulnerability from 1997 is still enabled by default in Windows 10:
What do you mean "or" those are the same thing.
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@dcon Actually, Home users can be protected by setting firewall to limit SMB traffics (File and Printer Sharing:*) outbound traffic to local intranet. Not sure why the article author not mention it.
Btw, the default setting on Windows firewall is already limiting the access of these ports to "Local scope". So unless you've shutdown your firewall, this is not going to affect you unless maybe you've connected to their VPN service, when in that case their website could be in "Local scope".
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More thing that I don't like from Win10 update - Update notification after update has already been installed.
Maybe I should place it at Error'd too.
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@cheong said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
More thing that I don't like from Win10 update - Update notification after update has already been installed.
Maybe I should place it at Error'd too.
that's weird as heck....
have you tried right clicking on the notifications (or possibly the app name above the notifications, i don't have a notifiaction handy to check) and clicking the "turn off notifications from this app" option?
alternatively that looks like the sort of thing that could be solved by turning it off then on again.
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@cheong said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
More thing that I don't like from Win10 update - Update notification after update has already been installed.
that's weird as heck....
have you tried right clicking on the notifications (or possibly the app name above the notifications, i don't have a notifiaction handy to check) and clicking the "turn off notifications from this app" option?
alternatively that looks like the sort of thing that could be solved by turning it off then on again.
Now I've turned off and turned it on again. See if there's new notification the next 30 minutes.
It turns out the notifications are generated by <Something>_insider_hub.<something>, but I've not joined the insider program in the machine (just joined for my phone only), strange...
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@cheong Those are from the old insider app that was available on 10586, during the upgrade it is removed along with the old feedback app, and both are replaced with the new Feedback Hub app. But, the notifications were still queued up somehow.
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@cheong Forgotten to post the result back last night. After disabling the notification and enable it again, the repetitive notification is stopped.
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@cheong Those are from the old insider app that was available on 10586, during the upgrade it is removed along with the old feedback app, and both are replaced with the new Feedback Hub app. But, the notifications were still queued up somehow.
I can't even begin to imagine the level of fuckery that went into that.
Like, I can almost imagine how a SINGLE instance of the message could get queued between a beta release of one piece of software, and a production release of effectively an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT piece of software. It's still fucktardidly stupid, but I can imagine it.
But this? Yeah. Enjoy your id10t OS.
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@Lorne-Kates said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Enjoy your id10t OS.
I am, quite thoroughly. The notification thing and the occasional bluetooth audio skipping are the only issues I've personally had, and they're extremely minor.
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@LB_ I was getting crashes in some games, but either those stopped in time, they stopped when I updated my graphics driver, or I just haven't been playing my constant explosions character in path of exile.
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"...the problems of Microsoft's current testing regime: lack of internal testing (the people who did this were laid off), Insiders not testing on real systems (because they're advised not to use it on their primary PCs), and Insiders tending to give poor feedback (they're not professional testers, and Microsoft's very weak release notes give no indication of what things have been changed and hence need testing in the first place)."
The Microsoft engineers who did internal testing of Windows were laid off. Microsoft no longer has an internal quality control department.Oh...
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@LB_ I see they've hired the nodebb testing team :D
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They're agile just like everyone else! Let the customers do it! Push a new release tomorrow!
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
The Microsoft engineers who did internal testing of Windows were laid off. Microsoft no longer has an internal quality control department.
This sounds like bullshit. Citation needed.
Also, I tried to pin Excel to the Start Menu but apparently stabbed it to death:
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
The Microsoft engineers who did internal testing of Windows were laid off. Microsoft no longer has an internal quality control department.
This sounds like bullshit. Citation needed.
Also, I tried to pin Excel to the Start Menu but apparently stabbed it to death:
Ah. You immediately started to drag it after clicking, didn't you?
Windows doesn't retrieve the program icon very well anymore, so you have to start the drag, wait a second, then try to move it into the menu.
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I've been having fun with my homegroup settings. We mostly use this so the kids' computers can print to the office printer. It was pretty straightforward under Win7; I created the homegroup, entered the password in on the kids' computers, it was pretty cool and so much easier than the XP way.
After the upgrade to Win10 a few weeks ago the homegroup information seemed to have gotten garbled, kids couldn't use the office printer. Check the homegroup settings on their computer, it says the office computer has invited you to join a homegroup. OK, I'll go to the office computer and get the password, no problem.
Go to the office computer and pull up the homegroup info... wait, it says the kids' computer has created a homegroup and invited me to join. WTF? Where's my existing homegroup gone? Is there any option to ignore the invitation and create one from scratch? Apparently not. So I can't get a homegroup password from either computer because they both believe the other computer has created it. Well, that's useful.
In the end I got the kids to turn off their computer. Then the office computer let me create a homegroup, and after we turned the kids' computer back on it could join that homegroup. Problem solved!
... until yesterday, when ten minutes of trying to solve a printing issue turned out to be because apparently their computer had forgotten about the homegroup again. Fortunately I still had the piece of paper with the homegroup password handy. I think I might hang on to it for a while yet...
My other main annoyance with it is not having jump lists in the recent programs section. That's a real usability blow.
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@Scarlet_Manuka homegroups have never worked for me in any version of Windows. In my family we just use Google Cloud Print.
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Scarlet_Manuka homegroups have never worked for me in any version of Windows. In my family we just use Google Cloud Print.
Proper Domain Controllers FTW!
If it was easy for the average user to set one up (and Home versions could join domains just as easily), I'd recommend it for anyone who needs to manage more than three computers in their house.
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We are using the old pre-homegroup way of file sharing and network printing but of course the computers forget that too all the time. And there are a zillion obscure settings that all need to be configured just right. On the plus side it works with Win98 and Vista.
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Now that I mention it, it used to be in win7 that my NAS would show up as a computer in the network. Nowadays it just shows as a media device and an 'other device', and the latter version only gives me the website.
I've been working around it by entering
\\diskstation\
in the address bar. I can never find anything in the windows 10 explorer anyway. Though my recent reinstall on new hardware seems to have less nodes than the previous upgraded install did... interesting.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@lucas1 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Random Question, how do you get rid of the action centre it is fucking useless.
I heard you can Turn System Icons On Or Off, but since I'm not on a newer version, YMMV.
Does this really work? I have to switch off "input indicator" around 5 times a day, cause it keeps switching on all by itself. And changing my default keyboard input from Polish to English all the fucking time. :/
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@kt_ are you accidentally pressing the keyboard shortcuts for it?
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
MS usually rolls it out in waves
the bits move but I can't hear what they're saying
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
after updating, Google Drive decided that it couldn't locate the Google Drive folder.
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
yet another file sync program running on my computer that's likely to start pegging a core to 100% for no apparent reason
Why do they do that? I think the Dropbox client is the only one I've ever used that hasn't lost its mind that way.
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
And there's no Linux version, either. Which is like the main reason I didn't ditch Dropbox yet.
Yeah, I know, there are third-party solutions you can get kinda working, but this is fucking stupid. Google seems to really be skimping on any kind of clients / APIs lately (see also: no API for Keep, meaning no sync with anything I can install locally).
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Why do they do that?
Maybe hashing all your files to compare to the hashes of the files in the cloud? I only notice it happening when the status is "scanning all your files" or "scanning for changes" or whatever, usually after a restart or if you pause and unpause syncing. But I think they mostly rely on the date modified. Either way, having them on an SSD seems to make CPU or the OS the bottleneck instead of the drive.
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@Onyx said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And there's no Linux version, either.
You are seriously not missing much. The OSX version is a pile of shit that likes to crap out at even trivial network issues.
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@Jaloopa said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@kt_ are you accidentally pressing the keyboard shortcuts for it?
I hope not. I can't be sure because the functional user-friendly keyboard settings window is gone now. I'd like to deactivate English keyboard altogether but I can't: I have to have it there if I use English as the OS language. :/
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
On the plus side it works with Win98 and Vista.
So, only downsides then?
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
after updating, Google Drive decided that it couldn't locate the Google Drive folder.
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
The last time it crapped out on me was several years ago. Since that it just works.
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So... what? They updated an App? Why does that make Windows 10 3D?
And you.. can.. read epubs in Edge?
Why did this come to me like it was something amazing?
Disappoint!
Filed under: I believe @accalia already posted on this, but for the life of me I can't find it
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And you.. can.. read epubs in Edge?
Why did this come to me like it was something amazing?Don't you understand? MICROSOFT HAS JUST INVENTED ELECTRONIC BOOKS!
That's YUUUGE news!
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And you.. can.. read epubs in Edge?
Why did this come to me like it was something amazing?Don't you understand? MICROSOFT HAS JUST INVENTED ELECTRONIC BOOKS!
That's YUUUGE news!
That's OK, they also invented reading PDFs too...
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@Tsaukpaetra They just get better! Is there nothing they can't invent?
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra They just get better! Is there nothing they can't invent?
Hey, so long as they don't get too courageous, I'm ok with it.
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra They just get better! Is there nothing they can't invent?
2 things come to mind right away:
- proper update system for Windows
- proper installer/uninstaller for Visual Studio
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Why does that make Windows 10 3D?
{flies through the control center for Jurassic Park}
This is Unix. I know this.
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@TimeBandit Updates work fine for me. Any large dev environment is going to be a problem when trying to remove it from an OS. Visual Studio is the most obvious, but if you try to unpick a Linux / Unix system you will be better doing a reinstall as well.
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@Tsaukpaetra Yeah, I found it hard to give a shit as I marked that email as junk. Also, the "Get Office" app.. why are they adding new features to this??
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@lucas1 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Any large dev environment is going to be a problem when trying to remove it from an OS.
I can install/uninstall Netbeans, Eclipse, QT-Creator, and any other dev environment from Windows and/or Linux without it screwing the OS. Except Visual Studio.
if you try to unpick a Linux / Unix system you will be better doing a reinstall as well.
Please, enlighten me on what dev environment I can't uninstall from my Debian machine.
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@TimeBandit Eclipse is an unzip and not an uninstall.
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@lucas1 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit Eclipse is an unzip and not an uninstall.
Then, you can just delete the folder.
What is your point exactly ?
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@TimeBandit VS is much more complicated piece of software. Also it can be uninstalled easily I have done it many times. When I have installed newer versions.
Now SQL Server, there is something that is worth complaining about how it hooks into the OS.
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
after updating, Google Drive decided that it couldn't locate the Google Drive folder.
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
The last time it crapped out on me was several years ago. Since that it just works.
Until today.
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
after updating, Google Drive decided that it couldn't locate the Google Drive folder.
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
The last time it crapped out on me was several years ago. Since that it just works.
Until today.
when I most</needed it. ins>FTFY?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
after updating, Google Drive decided that it couldn't locate the Google Drive folder.
The Google Drive desktop client is, in my experience, a completely untrustworthy pile of half baked shite with only the slipperiest of grasps on the whole "synchronization" thing. Which, given that it has ONE! JOB! to do and sucks at it, is disappointing.
The last time it crapped out on me was several years ago. Since that it just works.
Until today.
when I most</needed it. ins>FTFY?
Nope, it's my personal stuff. I filed a support request in the morning, went on with the day, and in the evening the email arrived with a link to reinstall the client from. It works now.
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Micro-Soft now share Win10 telemetry data with third-party
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@TimeBandit Haven't they been doing that ever since XP, or whenever they added all the telemetry gubbins?
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@RaceProUK There is never been that much telemetry in Windows before 10.