Forums turn into complicated communities
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@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Oh right the open source philosophy, serve your customers something REALLY FUCKING SHITTY because FUCK YOUR USERS also because maybe in 5 years it won't be quite as shitty.
You have a functioning crystal ball? I'd like one. It'd be way easier than having to learn from mistakes and improving stuff incrementally. I guess you wouldn't know, having never made a mistake in your life.
Is that why you have such a massive problem with Git? You don't need version control because version 1.0 is perfect every time.
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@another_sam Maybe next time they could improve it a TINY bit BEFORE shoving it in the public's face.
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@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@another_sam Oh right the open source philosophy, serve your customers something REALLY FUCKING SHITTY because FUCK YOUR USERS also because maybe in 5 years it won't be quite as shitty.
Fuck off with that shit. There was nothing open source about stack overflow.
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@boomzilla So what? the OpenID "movement" was the openest open sourceiest open source source open ever.
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@blakeyrat Was it? Open id was stupid, but so was New Coke. Is there anything more Closed Source than Coke?
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@boomzilla said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Was it?
Yes
@boomzilla said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Open id was stupid,
SHUT UP BLAKEYRAT but also I agree with you entirely BUT SHUT UP BLAKEYRAT I AM BOOMZILLA A MASSIVE DOUCHE
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@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
I AM BOOMZILLA A MASSIVE DOUCHE
No you aren't and yes you are.
@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Yes
How so?
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@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@another_sam Maybe next time they could improve it a TINY bit BEFORE shoving it in the public's face.
That would increase it's time to market (and the synergies would be all wrong)
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@wharrgarbl Maybe they should be more concerned with the "time to embarrassing failure" time.
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
If you think you're the only A. Barker in the world you're nuts
FWIW I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world, at least who uses that as a Latin-character based username.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
FWIW I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world, at least who uses that as a Latin-character based username.
If I could be bothered I'd create an account called another_tsaukpaetra and complain about you having taken my name.
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
FWIW I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world, at least who uses that as a Latin-character based username.
If I could be bothered I'd create an account called another_tsaukpaetra and complain about you having taken my name.
Then I'd have to complain about reverse identity theft.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
FWIW I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world, at least who uses that as a Latin-character based username.
I'm the only Ben Lubar I know of, but there are at least 3 people with my dad's name that he gets confused for.
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@Tsaukpaetra how do you spell it with the non-Latin character set? :O
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@bb36e said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra how do you spell it with the non-Latin character set? :O
τσαοκπαητρα?
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
If you think you're the only A. Barker in the world you're nuts.
I'm not even the only A. Barker in my family. I've got a cousin, my wife, and two daughters that are all A. Barker. The college I went to had 6 other Barkers with the same first name as me, I don't even know how many A. Barkers there were at the time.
I am under no delusions about the "global uniqueness" of my username. Good thing KeePass stores usernames, too!
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@abarker said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
my wife, and two daughters that are all A. Barker
Oh god you're one of them. Child abuse!
More seriously, my wife, my Dad and my Dad's wife (not my mum) all have the same surname and first initial. My brother and stepbrother have the same first name. My brother's may-as-well-be-wife has my first name and will have my surname too if she ever legally becomes my sister-in-law. One cousin has my sister's first name, another has my first name, his wife has his sister's first name, his brother's (another of my cousins, follow along) wife has my wife's first name. Fortunately none of the cousins share my surname.
@abarker said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Food thing KeePass stores usernames, too!
That doesn't solve my problem for me. Should I just use randomly generated usernames? That's more-or-less what I end up doing anyway and it makes me sad.
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@another_sam when I want to go anonymous, I take a checksum of my normal handle and take a substring of that. Eventually, I'll run out of substrings, so I'll just run the checksum against the checksum.
All you have to do is perform SHA256 in your head, and you won't need keepass!
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
More seriously, my wife, my Dad and my Dad's wife (not my mum) all have the same surname and first initial. My brother and stepbrother have the same first name. My brother's may-as-well-be-wife has my first name and will have my surname too if she ever legally becomes my sister-in-law. One cousin has my sister's first name, another has my first name, his wife has his sister's first name, his brother's (another of my cousins, follow along) wife has my wife's first name. Fortunately none of the cousins share my surname.
Literally with exception to my mom, everyone in the immediate family is either a stylish head ornament or feline by initials.
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On a related note, does anyone here remember when this was the forum for The Daily WTF? Me neither.
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@ScholRLEA said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
On a related note, does anyone here remember when this was the forum for The Daily WTF? Me neither.
No, it's the What for the Daily WTF.
@ben_lubar said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Oh shoot, I just doxxed my entire family, didn't I?!?!
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@ScholRLEA remember when someone used script injection to insert auto playing audio into the front page?
OrI agree with whatever morbs just said!
I tried signing up back in the CS days but I never got the email.
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@bb36e said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@ScholRLEA remember when someone used script injection to insert auto playing audio into the front page?
OrI agree with whatever morbs just said!
I have remembered this timeframe. Pray I don't remember it further!
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@Tsaukpaetra nagesh would like to have a word with you
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@bb36e said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra nagesh would like to have a word with you
I may even talk to them if they return even! It's only been 4 months since they logged in, so... Maybe?
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@Tsaukpaetra so did anyone ever figure out if nagesh was an alt or a unique person? Because he's come back multiple times...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
stylish head ornament
Francine Elizabeth Zappa?
@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
feline
Christopher Alan Thompson?
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@Tsaukpaetra what if they return odd?
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@Fox he is a very odd person. But 2 is an odd prime by virtue of being even, so maybe!
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
stylish head ornament
Francine Elizabeth Zappa?
@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
feline
Christopher Alan Thompson?
Holy crap I'm going to apologize to my little brother, his life is technically (the best kind) ruined!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world
How is that a good thing? Any random stranger can find all about you with a google search.
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@cartman82 said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Because violence is never the answer.
Violence is always the answer.
What was the question again? Or do I have to slap you?
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@Fox said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra what if they return odd?
We're talking about Nagesh. If he returns, it is certain that he will be odd. (Even if he doesn't return, wherever he is, he's odd.)
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@abarker I always see this suggestion and read it as "Go from having multiple passwords on multiple devices and services that someone would need to figure out to impersonate to having only one that matters, and if they crack it, they have everything!"
Though I do see the difference.
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@Magus said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@abarker I always see this suggestion and read it as "Go from having multiple passwords on multiple devices and services that someone would need to figure out to impersonate to having only one that matters, and if they crack it, they have everything!"
Though I do see the difference.
First, they have to find it. I keep my password store in a secure, encrypted cloud location, so potential hackers would actually have to crack two levels before they got everything. The odds of that happening in the life of this universe are pretty slim.
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@another_sam It's a good thing I go by my initials, because when I started my current job there were two other people whose first names matched my first name, two other people whose first names matched my middle name, and one other person whose last name matched my last name. Ridiculous in an office of ~15 people.
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@mott555 The people doing the hiring really like this name.
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@groo We have a joke that only people named Tim, Tony, Steve, or John can be hired. Those names make up like 80% of our employees.
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@groo said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
I'm literally the only Tsaukpaetra in the world
How is that a good thing? Any random stranger can find all about you with a google search.
Never said that was a good thing. My pandora box is damn big for what I do...
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@mott555 said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
We have a joke that only people named Tim, Tony, Steve, or John can be hired.
There was a point where an OSS crew I was involved with was being overrun by Steves, so the point where they considered inviting me as an honorary Steve just to round out the full set.
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@Magus said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
I always see this suggestion and read it as "Go from having multiple passwords on multiple devices and services that someone would need to figure out to impersonate to having only one that matters, and if they crack it, they have everything!"
The advantage is you go from multiple passwords with complexity and ease of memory constrained by the often moronic systems you're using to remembering just one password that can be constructed arbitrarily to make it both easy for you to remember and difficult for an attacker to crack.
Plus they need access to the password manager database, which is usually a local file on your computer.
It's not an easy attack, certainly much harder than cracking Yahoo!.
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@groo said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@another_sam What killed the concept of OpenID is the same that killed jabber as an IM protocol. No big corporation is interested in a protocol that they can't control to their benefit, so they push their own thing, and the network effect takes care of the rest.
Emmm... Pardon? I think lots of commercial / entertainment websites allow / require the user to login through Google or Facebook accounts now.
As long as there are adequate incentive for them to do so (can access contacts therefore more potential customers), they're going to embrace it.
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@another_sam said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@blakeyrat said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
The fact that its usability was utter confusing trash was certainly a contributing factor.
It works the same way as "Log in with Facebook" and "Log in with Google", except that everybody already has a Facebook and Google account.
Everybody except me.
And me neither. That's why I found the requirement annoying.
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@cheong said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
Emmm... Pardon? I think lots of commercial / entertainment websites allow / require the user to login through Google or Facebook accounts now.
Google and Facebook have the network effect going for them. OpenID never had that.
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@another_sam Well, I think at least "Google Sign-in" in still based on OpenID, if the information on their website is still correct
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@cheong IIRC the idea of openid you should be able to use any provider you want. that's a lot different than the Google login buttons I see around.
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@groo said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
@cheong IIRC the idea of openid you should be able to use any provider you want. that's a lot different than the Google login buttons I see around.
The link I pointed to is for OpenID Connect, which is OpenID's latest revision on the authentication protocol. You can still connect to other providers exactly the same way if you want. Google does not shutdown that possiblity.
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@laki said in Forums turn into complicated communities:
oracle forums and informatica forums.
Hello friend!
I don't find the Informatica forums to be too bad. There are some people on there who are usually very good with the answers (e.g. Nico Heinze). For myself, I visit there every month or so and try to comment on or answer any recent threads where I have something useful to add.
The Oracle forums... let's not go there. Ever. And indeed I don't.