:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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The bikeshedding continues...
I would expect the "make this go away forever" to be an edge case and it is also quite anti-community.
[/quote]Then why did you add a feature which did that automatically, regardless of how short-lived it was?!
@codinghorror said:
I almost never want to dismiss unread posts, I always want dismiss topics. If I don't want to read the 5 new replies to that topic now, why would I want to read the 3 new additional replies to it tomorrow? On top of that, I would be reading the bottom most 3 replies without any of the context of the previous 5 replies I dismissed, which disassociates me from the topic even more.
It just feels really wrong to me to encourage
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Getting nagged more in the future about something I already do not want to be nagged about right now.
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Coming back later with partial context and having not read (X) replies to this topic.
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Mark read.
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#Mark ReadLooks like someone there finally noticed:
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Discourse works in exactly the way people expect software not to work?
Colour me surprised.
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Colour me surprised.
Now, this may be due to me being a scummy foreigner and such. But I have to ask: What colour is surprise?
Filed Under: Kind of expecting the Spanish Inquisition
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Purple, if you're bending over.
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PurpleOrange and blue,if you're bending over.if you actually search for it on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Surprise-Embrace-Unpredictable-Engineer-Unexpected/dp/0399169822/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446408555&sr=8-1&keywords=surpriseFiled Under: FTFY
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Oh good, they've started using auto-close on feature requests to ensure nobody can continue to discuss the topic after Jeff's done with it.
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Oh good, they've started using auto-close on feature requests to ensure nobody can continue to discuss the topic after Jeff's done with it.
Wouldn't want pesky users coming and disagreeing with Jeff and Sam's vision.
Sam seems to be getting almost as bad as Jeff now.
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Sam was always as bad as Jeff! He was just slightly more polite for slightly longer.
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He was just slightly more polite for slightly longer.
Which just shows how standing next to Jeff would make anyone look good.
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I like that there is just one button now to pick
... that isn't a choice, Sam. You-- you do know choices involve more than one option. Right-- Sam? Sam? I need to know you can respond, Sam. Please, Sam-- you know this right?
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Is that rick you are channeling?
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:dissapoint: at @tufty 's medium-sized toy
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Oh good, they've started using auto-close on feature requests to ensure nobody can continue to discuss the topic after Jeff's done with it.
Surely, once Jeff has spoken, nothing of any further value could possibly be discussed. If there was anything else to say, Jeff would have already said it.
Anything else would be Doing it WrongTM.
Purple, if you're bending over.
Where did you get the photo of Jeff? It really shows off his personality.
Which just shows how standing next to Jeff would make anyone look good.
Filed under: What would you like? AIDS or herpes?
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Coming soon: automatically muted topics won't show up on your Latest list for you to figure out that DC muted them on you!!!
https://meta.discourse.org/t/muting-a-thread-does-not-hide-it-from-latest/35161/6
Filed under: How's the migration coming
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We were talking about surprise. If it got forced in sideways when you weren't expecting it, that might be "surprising".
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That's something that has been annoying me for so long, specifically that muted topics prompt the "new or updated topics" bar, but not necessarily that they exist in my "Latest" list (because sometimes I'm masochistic and jump back into them to read some before abandoning them again).
I thought their auto-clear stupidity only set the topics back to "Normal", not "Muted"?
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I thought their auto-clear stupidity only set the topics back to "Normal", not "Muted"?
Yeah, that's my understanding too.
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I'm sure that they'll find a way to make it worse. Because Discourse.
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I thought their auto-clear stupidity only set the topics back to "Normal", not "Muted"?
It actually keeps them at whatever they were; only the Dismiss Topics button changes them back to "Normal". Autodismiss -- and the Dismiss Posts button for that matter -- were badly implemented though, so even though it still is set to "Watching" or "Tracking", it acts like it's on "Normal".
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badly implemented
Par for
theDiscourse.it still is set to "Watching" or "Tracking", it acts like it's on "Normal"
Which is seemingly the opposite of
PMs you are invited to after the fact1, which stated it was "Normal" for me (which actually isn't an option for them) when it was actually "Tracking", which is mostly useless if you want to follow thePM, since it only1 showed a notification that would go to the last post, compared to having it as "Watching" which consolidates the notification to "X replies" and goes to the first unread post.
1 At least for me. I do not know if this is the case every time and for everyone.
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I do not know if this is the case every time and for everyone.
The power of Discoursistency suggests not.
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https://meta.discourse.org/t/get-the-discussion-started-message-shows-negative-number/35192/2
Because counting is so hard, we're just going to blame the user if we return a bad number because we couldn't figure out how to count posts while excluding certain topics (if they exist). And why is that bar that shade of blue! Get an intern on changing that color, stat!
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Information overload solved by swapping the username of the last poster for their avatar!
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Hey look, it's me!
I like the idea of showing the avatar. I don't like that they've chosen for the avatar of the last person to respond, as this means that the picture in front of a given topic will change with every new post which makes it harder to easily recognize a topic by avatar+title length :(
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Last poster is what was there before, and is a bit more relevant than the original poster.
The solution to the picture next to a topic not changing every time a new post came in was... what they had before the current venture into the bikeshed.
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Oh good, they've started using auto-close on feature requests to ensure nobody can continue to discuss the topic after Jeff's done with it.
Well, why would it be necessary to continue the conversation after everyone's finished agreeing with Jeff?
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Sam seems to be getting almost as bad as Jeff now.
Then at least all our work wasn't for nothing.
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Last poster is what was there before, and is a bit more relevant than the original poster.
Not to me. :-)
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Coming soon: automatically muted topics won't show up on your Latest list for you to figure out that DC muted them on you!!!
Fuck. ##vote noupgrade
Information overload solved by swapping the username of the last poster for their avatar!
Oh, yeah, because I totally want to grab all the avatars of all the people on a slow, metered connection. And hit the DiscoCDN a billion times in the process, too.
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Information overload solved by swapping the username of the last poster for their avatar!
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Oh, unless it's a pinned topic then no avatar at all. Natch.
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hahahahahahahano
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https://meta.discourse.org/t/users-bypassing-the-10-character-rule/35257/2
Discourse ... a leaky to doing it wrong
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I like Sam's
can-doit's hard so we don't bother even trying attitude!
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The 10 character minimum rule is bullshit. Especially when quotes don't count towards that.
Jeff and co want everyone to converse in exactly the way they prescribe, it's a typical case of JDGI.
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The 10 character minimum rule is bullshit. Especially when quotes don't count towards that.
Quotes don't but some how BBcode does.
Fucking Discoursistency.@sam said:
This is essentially a battle you can not win. If we seal this one they will just come up with another one.
Just try not making Discoursistent broken software for once. Remember 90's Hellstew forums? Yeah, they didn't have 203 different ways to circumvent minimum post counts.
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That seems...wrong.
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I don't think it should stay set at 0, I was just wondering if it'd accept 0.
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Nope
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Well, that's something.
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I see that "post should not be empty" bullshit message quite often, because misquoting people is one of my MOs. It annoys the fuck out of me.
Why should Jeff decide how we use a forum? It's bullshit for him to impress his beliefs on us.
It's one of the unwritten laws of software development that your users will find ways of using the software that you never imagined. It doesn't mean that they are doing it wrong. It just means that you can't possibly think of all of the possible use cases.
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Why should Jeff decide how we use a forum. It's bullshit for him to impress his beliefs on us.
CIVILISED DISCOURSE.
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It's one of the unwritten laws of software development that your users will find ways of using the software that you never imagined.
Something something, that's what professional QA testers/analysts are for something something already beat Discopope over the head with his own blog post about that a year+ ago.
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Nope
What happens if you put in:
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