I Hate Flash
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I use to have chrome for the very reason I didn't need flash but then they stopped support for silverlight which most of my video subscriptions use so I ended up dumping chrome and using firefox instead.
I always thought that the plugin in market wasn't really a selling point for firefox or chrome. You want me to use your software but in order for the experience to be less shit I need third party plugins which may or may not be malicious in nature. That isn't a selling point. Its like firefox and their configure everything nonsense. I'm not interesting in spending 4 hours looking through the settings to disable and enable crap. It's why I prefer chrome. It just worked well out of the box.
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I see the Share and Hello toolbar buttons in your screenshot.
Recently updated Iceweasel and failed to turn them off. Thanks for the reminder.
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Flash VM and Runtime written in javascript
OH FOR THE FUCKING LOVE OF GOD
In FF I do not see any ads.
I have almost never seen a youtube ad. I installed ABP before google made them a thing and only remember they exist when I use someone else's computerI used to rely on these
Video DownloadHelper works great for me. The free version pulls from the same codebase as the full version, so they play a very good game of cat and mouse with google to make sure it worksYou guys know that VLC can open, play, and download
Why would I open VLC when I can literally click a single button, write a filename, and be done?
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@flabdablet said:
it's not that bad. afterall, what's the worst that could happen?Flash VM and Runtime written in javascript
OH FOR THE FUCKING LOVE OF GOD
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I just cringe at the idea of an interpreted virtual machine running an entire other virtual machine
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I have seen offliberate this bookmarklet too, should be simple.
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I just cringe at the idea of an interpreted virtual machine running an entire other virtual machine
it's not the first time JS has implemented a different interpreted language inside it.
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Doesn't make it any less stupid. Processors have advanced a shitload in the past ten years but they still have to run at about 50% load to watch a damn video. Meanwhile, my 233mhz pentium 2 in 1997 could do about the same. How have we fucked this up?
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If you want your videos DRM'ed, it's either Flash or SilverLight this days, until HTML5 has proper support for any DRM scheme.
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Processors have advanced a shitload in the past ten years but they still have to run at about 50% load to watch a damn video. Meanwhile, my 233mhz pentium 2 in 1997 could do about the same.
Well...you are talking about some severely moved goalposts. In 1997 you were watching postage stamp videos, that were very grainy and the sound track was severely lossy. Now we are watching high-definition videos with high quality audio with multiple channels. There are also things like 360 videos on YouTube and etc.
It is not like we are talking about the exact same videos.
And, what computer are you using? I am always running streaming video on my work machine and the video alone will never get above a few percent on a single core, and I have 7 more cores in reserve when I need to do other things.
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Meanwhile, my 233mhz pentium 2 in 1997 could do about the same. How have we fucked this up?
well for one thing videos were smaller back then.
at ca. 600x400 video resolution for a maxumum (Roughly the resolution of NTSC although 600x200 might be more accurate as it was interlaced and only half the scanlines were included in each frame.)
that's tiny in comparison to 1920x1080 or 4096x2160 videos we have now
that's 240k pixels per frame vs ca. 2 million pixels per frame for 1080p and ca. 9 million pixels for 4k video.
that's a lot more data.
then there's DRM, â â â â â â â DRM in it's â â â â â â â hole with a virile â â â â â â â for â â â â â â â years
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Fuck plugins! We should just re-write everything in HTML5 and JavaScript. What could possibly go wr ď
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NoScript!
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NoScript!
RequestPolicy (doesn't exist on Chrome)
Ghostery (does exist now, seems to work OK)
Status 4Evar (restore the status bar)
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I wouldn't call it dead, don't a lot of cartoons and animations use it? Or is that a different Flash and I just never knew?
Flash-the-animation-tool and Flash-the-scripting-language don't really have a ton of overlap.
That said, the animation tool having a scripting language is kind of handy for a lot of animation scenarios where you might want to, for example, script duplicating the same character 47 times instead of placing each one manually. But I'm guessing the vast vast majority of Flash animators never touch the scripting language.
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Processors have advanced a shitload in the past ten years but they still have to run at about 50% load to watch a damn video. Meanwhile, my 233mhz pentium 2 in 1997 could do about the same.
You're a dirty liar.
Your 233 mhz Pentium 2 could not decode a 1080p mpeg 4 video, and you fucking know it. With some dedicated hardware support, it might have been able to manage a 480i video.
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I bet something other than dimension has also changed. I remember I was fully satisfied with the resolution of porn back then, for what nowadays could be a thumbnail at best. I wonder if my eyes are larger now
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I remember I was fully satisfied with the resolution of porn
Thats probably because you were used to that resolution. People called the PS1-graphics photo realistic when it came out [citation needed] and now try playing a PS1 game while saying it looks photo realistic. (note: I did not say "good" there are some graphic styles that still work, probably)
Filed Under: Our expectations shift constantly... I for example can't imagine why a 5'' phone should need 4k resolution... but meh
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We just got a new time tracking system at work. Guess what it uses. Flash. And Java.
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Please tell it isn't Remedy.
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As everyone pointed out, the size of the video has greatly increased, along with quality and a change in format. However, IMO, it is still quite excessive
You all also for some reason think I said anything about a pentium 2 playing hd video.
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You all also for some reason think I said anything about a pentium 2 playing hd video.
Well, you did seem to allude to nothing changing on the video side, or not realizing that technology expands to utilize all of the available resources.
Hell, we started with forums that used approximately 0% client side resources and no we use ones that take gigabytes of RAM and measurable CPU percentage.
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Hell, we started with forums that used approximately 0% client side resources and no we use ones that take gigabytes of RAM and measurable CPU percentage.
Yes, but this forum is in HD!
Or so I assume, given the way @wood masturbates over the size of his monitors.
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Video DownloadHelper works great for me.
Used to work great for me as well. Then one day it stopped again (lots of zero-length downloads), an update didn't fix it, and I found keepvid.com instead of waiting for VDH's next move in the arms race. Not had a download go wrong since.
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99% of the results you get for "download youtube videos" are malware or scams.
YouTube Center, which can download in addition to other useful things like setting your preferred audio volume, disabling annotations (except this seems to be broken currently), displaying/hiding the description, displaying/hiding comments, enabling/disabling autoplay, autohiding (or not) the playback controls, preferred resolution (in case you have a slow connection), etc., can be installed as a userscript that works just fine on Chrome.
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we started with forums that used approximately 0% client side resources and now we use ones that take gigabytes of RAM and
measurableall the CPU percentage.FTFY
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Been using clipconverter.cc instead of keepvid lately (when not youtube-dl).
Also works as an alternative to listentoyoutube.
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Have not used clipconverter.cc. Is it quick? I use VLC, so I don't really care what format the existing video is in and would rather not transcode it by default.
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It is quick. And there's a progress bar anyway.
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I had the exact same issue, and found a similar temporary solution, but they've since overcome whatever silliness google implemented and now, not only does it work again, it works way better! Good job Google!
not realizing that technology expands to utilize all of the available resources.
I guess this is my main complaint. Why couldn't we have found a more efficient way to do the video than flash?
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Why couldn't we have found a more efficient way to do the video than flash?
Flash wasn't originally used for video for efficiency, it was there for a more consistent (and often better) user interface. Directly embedding video in a web page used to be a crapshoot as to whether it would display reasonably for any given user and how gracefully it would fail. Flash was very widespread and had decent controls and consistent error messaging, along with supporting a known minimum set of codecs.
HTML 5 video has mostly replaced it, but due to the failure of the W3C to mandate codecs, it still isn't a complete replacement for flash.
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due to the failure of the W3C to mandate codecs
And that was because the browser makers could not agree what the minimum set should be, and couldn't even bring themselves to put effort into finding out what codecs they could handle were so that they could be certain to report what was legal in the request for the resource to use inside a
<video>
element.Idiots. (And the W3C as an organisation has no way to force them to smarten up.)
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It's Kronos.
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"I don't know what is valid, but I'll know invalid after I've downloaded it"
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What is with people's (company's) aversions to
PNaClWindows? Are you telling me they don't want to target the most widely usedbrowseroperating system in the world?goats can't be frisky
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@LB_ said:
What is with people's (company's) aversions to
PNaClWindows? Are you telling me they don't want to target the most widely usedbrowserDesktop operating system in the world?FTFY
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What is with people's (company's) aversions to PNaCl?
Well, both phosphorus and sodium are pretty energetically reactive...
Filed Under: impossible chemical compounds FTW
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Well, both phosphorus and sodium are pretty energetically reactive...
That would depend on their oxidation stateâŚ
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Anyone remember RealPlayer?
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Isn't it this one?
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Nope. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPlayer
Released 20 years ago. FFFFUUUUUU****strong text
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I actually had it on my first WinXP machine. It would let you resize it larger than the screen to like 10x as large, no idea why. It was such a weird program for having its own theming.
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Anyone remember RealPlayer?
Dammit ... I was almost done with banning that from my memories
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Netflix runs on Chrome as HTML5 video with DRM on Windows and Linux.