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    @blakeyrat said:

    I think that you're attributing the problem to Windows, when the problem is the network is set up incorrectly.

    No, it is not. How many times do I have to tell you? I am far from the only person to have observed this behavior. Most people would not notice it though. Without being in very specific circumstances, most people would be unlikely to notice it though. We work in those situations all the time though, so we notice it.


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    @Intercourse said:

    I actually require that in my work. Windows seems to default to wireless connection and only uses a wired connection when there is no wireless available. I need to force connection to the wired network. The easiest way by far is to just flip the switch. I know a lot of people that do so.

    What I do at my office (where my laptop often finds its network card being converted from "the network" to whatever I need to program next and sometimes I need to be able to send traffic out both interfaces to get to the Internet and what I'm programming) is to use the "Interface metric" setting in the advanced network card settings.

    Access via: Right-click interface > Properties > TCP/IPv4 (or v6 as required) > General Tab > Advanced... > Clear the checkbox for Automatic metric and put a number in Interface metric. Higher number means higher cost (lower priority).

    So I leave my wireless card permanently set at 15 and change from 10 to 20 on the wired, depending on which one I want to be priority (for Internet traffic). As alluded to elsewhere, most of the time your computer will not automatically change existing IP traffic sessions from wireless to wired (except on networks where both interfaces detect as being on the same network, which usually requires a network that registers under the Domain profile... standard Private/Home/Work networks tend to recognize a wired and wireless connection as a separate network).

    Though I, for one, wouldn't mind a way I could get Windows to stop auto-switching to the lower cost adapter when I reconnect my wired adapter to the main network and give it priority. Our billing software winds up force-closing when that happens because reasons related to how it directly connects to the MSSQL server (but that's a separate WTF).


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    That is what I was alluding to earlier. We are rarely on our domain though. Most of us are out of the office 90% of the time. But that would explain why it does not work for us. We are on someone else's domain and therefore it gives fuck-all about the priority that we have set.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Unless you're trying to tell me that there are people who use Scroll Lock, Insert, and Num Lock constantly, in which case that's a gigantic [citation needed] on my part. I don't think I've ever seen anybody intentionally use Scroll Lock or Insert, and the only time people hit Num Lock is when their computer is apparently broken. (i.e. Num Lock got turned off somehow.)

    People who use Excel or other spreadsheet programs constantly, like accountants. Not so much Scroll Lock, that is a leftover from console programs. But there are still a lot of ERP programs that use Scroll Lock. Costco is only this year upgrading from an inventory management program that relies on Scroll Lock for efficiency. So...there's your fucking citation.



  • @Yamikuronue said:

    My Windows 7 laptop will connect over slow wifi and ignore the fast wired network it's docked into. Every damn time.

    Where I work we're planning to implement policy that will shut off the WiFi when the network connection is live AND it detects our particular subnet(s) to avoid this kind of headache. Too often people use their WiFi at home, leave it on, connect to the office the next morning and wonder why they can't connect to the domain...



  • Ooo, ooo, now do Pause/Break!!!


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    @redwizard said:

    Where I work we're planning to implement policy that will shut off the WiFi when the network connection is live AND it detects our particular subnet(s) to avoid this kind of headache. Too often people use their WiFi at home, leave it on, connect to the office the next morning and wonder why they can't connect to the domain...

    But this behavior is impossible according to @blakeyrat, so you must be lying?

    At my wife's work, they still use fucking logon scripts. If you logon at work, they have a script that does exactly that for that reason.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Intercourse said:
    When you do not get your way, or you do not like something, you bitch and rant.

    That's because it's funny.

    Maybe the first few times. After a while, it just gets old and boring. You've reached that stage now.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I quit when I didn't have a boring-ass job I needed to distract myself from by posting stuff here. Now I took another boring-ass job and so I'm back.

    During my lurking days on CS, I remember a big rant you direct at @mikeTheLiar, at the end of which you called him the worst of the worst, and said you were done. You disappeared for a few months at that point, and then came back and pretended that nothing happened. That's the kind of thing that @Intercourse was talking about.



  • @abarker said:

    You disappeared for a few months at that point, and then came back and pretended that nothing happened.

    Nothing did happen.

    What the fuck do you guys think should happen in that situation? That's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. Because I don't get it.



  • I recall running into a case where Ctrl-C didn't stop whatever was happening at the Windows command prompt at the time, but Ctrl-Break finally got the "knock it off" message through. (Something to do with batch files...)

    Also: let me fire up a copy of Excel here and see what Scroll Lock does...turns out, I figured out why Excel-junkies would want it: it allows them to go look at some other part of the sheet while editing a cell, without having to faff with the mouse. Now, if I could only do that in terminal/console sessions to say "stop snapping me to the end of the scrollback buffer just because something got scribbled on stdout"...

    (At least we're talking about the standard 104/105 key layout, and not the *gasp* notion of a custom keyboard!)



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Nothing did happen.

    What the fuck do you guys think should happen in that situation? That's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. Because I don't get it.

    I'm not saying there was anything to do when you came back. I'm just trying to provide some clarification of @Intercourse's point.



  • @noland said:

    You can actually configure the system, whether to use the function keys for system controls by default and for applications using a modifier key, or the other way round.

    True, except in that case you lose access to F9 through F12, since those activate will Exposé and Dashboard. (Which is how I’ve got things set up.)



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Nothing did happen.

    What the fuck do you guys think should happen in that situation? That's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. Because I don't get it.

    How heartless can you be!? Are you aware Mike had to go to therapy to get over your cruel words? Even now, only the faith in the Higher Power and Zanex prevents him from compulsively carving "worst worst worst" onto his skin!?

    A decent human being would open up a large "I am back and I am sorry" thread, where you would carefully go over the long process of self-inspection and healing you went through. How you had to reach the bottom before you realized the depth of your depravity. How you worked hard with your priest and counselor on getting control of your anger and learning to love yourself again, and then others.

    You would list every forum member you ever ranted at and personally apologize. You would write a special heartfelt apology to poor Mike and point out you know he will never forgive you, but you will still live every day of your life hoping beyond hope he still might. You would then change your nickname to blakeykitten and promise to never raise your voice again at another forum member.

    Everyone would be truly touched by your openness. Reply after reply, they would embrace you and welcome you back. Even Mike would push back his demons long enough to offer a few words of acceptance.

    From then on, all your posts would be considerate and fully cognizant that each issue has two sides. And that behind each avatar sits a human being, with real feelings and thoughts, and that they deserve respect and not ridicule.

    But of course, who am I kidding? A decent human being wouldn't post such vile evil claptrap in the first place!



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Ooo, ooo, now do Pause/Break!!!

    Windows + Pause/Break is of course handy for bringing up the System control panel applet to open up System properties to end up joining a computer to a domain manually. And to turn off visual effects, remote access, etc.*

    But for Pause/Break itself, I actually had to it for the first time ever a few months back to pause a console data migration program while I fixed the webservice the program called.

    *Not sure if there's a run command/keyboard shortcut to get right to System properties.



  • @tarunik said:

    Also: let me fire up a copy of Excel here and see what Scroll Lock does...turns out, I figured out why Excel-junkies would want it:

    It is very handy for Excel.

    I also vaguely recall it does something really funky in Lotus Notes Email. Bad funky.



  • Anything with Lotus Notes is bad funky.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    What the fuck do you guys think should happen in that situation?

    If it happens once, or twice, or three times...nothing. But if you do this all the fucking time to the point that it becomes a forum meme, perhaps you should show some motherfucking humility. Stop being such a fucking asshole. Change some fucking patterns. Do fucking something.

    You remind me of myself in my early 20's. I thought everyone else was a fucking asshole. I thought everyone else was fucking wrong. I thought I was the only person who had it figured out. Then I realized that I was the ONLY FUCKING COMMON DENOMINATOR. I was the one who was wrong. You have yet to learn that lesson.



  • It's happened once. So. Yay.

    In case you haven't noticed yet, every "fact" posted here about me is a flat-out lie. I've stopped even trying to debunk them. There's one in another thread right now that says I hate the entire concept of personas, which is kind of interesting considering Blakeyrat is a persona. As I've stated several times. Not that idiots like you ever believe me.


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    @cartman82 said:

    But of course, who am I kidding? A decent human being wouldn't post such vile evil claptrap in the first place!

    Through text, and without vocal intonation, it is hard to tell if you are taking the piss out of me or @blakeyrat. Either way though, it is funny...because I can fucking laugh at myself. ;)


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    @blakeyrat said:

    It's happened once. So. Yay.

    Once since Discourse. In total between here and CS, it has happened often enough to become a meme.



  • @Intercourse said:

    Through text, and without vocal intonation, it is hard to tell if you are taking the piss out of me or @blakeyrat. Either way though, it is funny...because I can fucking laugh at myself.

    Does it matter if it's funny?


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    @cartman82 said:

    Does it matter if it's funny?

    Not at all, which was my point that did not convey properly without intonation.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Unless you're trying to tell me that there are people who use Scroll Lock, Insert, and Num Lock constantly, in which case that's a gigantic [citation needed] on my part. I don't think I've ever seen anybody intentionally use Scroll Lock or Insert, and the only time people hit Num Lock is when their computer is apparently broken. (i.e. Num Lock got turned off somehow.)

    If you work with any old mainframe system like I do, then yes, you need a scroll lock, num lock, and an insert button. I use them all the damn time.



  • @Intercourse said:

    But this behavior is impossible according to @blakeyrat, so you must be lying?

    At my wife's work, they still use fucking logon scripts. If you logon at work, they have a script that does exactly that for that reason.

    How can I by lying about what were planning to do? 😛

    I honestly am still researching options on how to do it - meeting with a vendor a week from Monday to address exactly that.

    Yes, TRWTF is we still use logon scripts as well. BAT files, no less (trying VBScripts was an exercise in futility). Three different consultants and no one knows what to do that's better for mapping drives than logon scripts. But they work...


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    @redwizard said:

    Three different consultants and no one knows what to do that's better for mapping drives than logon scripts. But they work...

    Why not deploy drive maps through Group Policy? It is the simplest, easiest way to do such a thing.


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    @darkmatter said:

    If you work with any old mainframe system like I do, then yes, you need a scroll lock, num lock, and an insert button. I use them all the damn time.

    Sorry, you should be using a @blakeyrat approved keyboard and change your workflow. @blakeyrat and @codinghorror would say you are Doing It Wrongâ„¢.


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    Lotus Notes is the ultimate proof that software being commercial doesn't make it good. It's hardly unique in that position either; there are some really awful pieces of commercial software out there. (Some things just don't seem to attract a lot of meaningful competition.)


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    @blakeyrat said:

    In case you haven't noticed yet, every "fact" posted here about me is a flat-out lie. I've stopped even trying to debunk them. There's one in another thread right now that says I hate the entire concept of personas, which is kind of interesting considering Blakeyrat is a persona. As I've stated several times. Not that idiots like you ever believe me.

    Ok, I have re-read the discussion we had (which is in the lounge so I won't onebox it due to limitations on that category).

    I have, in fact, misremembered it. I said that I find poking fun at people's online personas ok within reason. You said you think it's a bad thing and that it creeps people out. You then refused to acknowledge that pointing this out might be beneficial due to other people decoupling you from your persona by saying that I'm objectively wrong and that I should assume that would offend you while talking about your persona. At that point I pretty much gave up because it stopped being fun.

    So yes. I made a mistake. Sorry. But with the amount of cognitive dissonance that's required to keep the idea of "This is a persona, but I still take offence to people talking about that persona as if they really hate the real me" in my head, I think I'm at least a bit justified.

    And no, I won't get into a discussion about that again.



  • Someone needs to work on their doublethink. 😉



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  • @Intercourse said:

    Why not deploy drive maps through Group Policy?

    Group Policy itself is partly broken, which we plan on fixing right after DFS/Namespace is fixed. More I will not say at this time, mainly because we're still digging out the WTFs in there...


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    @redwizard said:

    we're still digging out the WTFs in there...

    Sounds like it. How do you break GP?



  • @Intercourse said:

    How do you break GP?

    Just before the engineer I'm working with went on vacation, we found that several policies appear to be set up to apply recursively. Not something I'm familiar with.



  • @Nexzus said:

    *Not sure if there's a run command/keyboard shortcut to get right to System properties.

    Run ->SystemPropertiesAdvanced

    Useful for when you have to fuck with environment variables.



  • @Zecc said:

    I have no idea why you think this is an unprecedented stupidity.

    It's the default behaviour. The default behaviour should be to do whatever F5 usually does, which is not turn off the mouse. I should be pressing the function key, if anything to do some special laptop F5 function, such as this if they really wanted it implemented.

    The unprecedented stupidity is overriding standard functionality for functionality with less common use cases. In Soviet Russia, case uses you.



  • @Zecc said:

    ... don't want to move your cursor as you rest your hands over the mousepad.

    Speaking of unprecedented stupidity, this reminds me of an issue I had with an old laptop. The cursor would tap on the screen randomly, so if you were using a text editor, it would result in funny cut up sentences where some of your would end up over there words.

    This was apparently a common problem (making it a more precedented stupidity it would seem) and the solution was to download a better driver, which also allowed the mousepad click-tap sensitivity to be decreased. This was good, since I didn't like accidentally tapping the pad every time the train went over a bump.

    Maybe my standards are too high and I'm turning into a hipster. My standards were too high before it was cool.


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    @Onyx said:

    which is in the lounge so I won't onebox it due to limitations on that category

    Those limitations also prevent it from being oneboxed. Or they did...


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    @PJH said:

    Those limitations also prevent it from being oneboxed. Or they did...

    Exactly. So I didn't even try.

    Or there could be a limited "works for some people" onebox. Maybe. But I don't care to try since it's useless anyway.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Good job reading the first half of my post and ignoring the second.

    obviously you have never ever done this ever.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Imagine the bitching if Windows automatically switched from a wifi for a company that follows HIPAA rules, to the wired connection of the coffeeshop, milliseconds before the user tried to submit a form with confidential medical information.

    I'm trying, but it's hard to figure out WTF is the deal with the company and the coffee shop.


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    Why would you be working on confidential medical data in a coffee shop in the first place? That would be front-page material right there (and wouldn't even need Hanzoing).


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    @Onyx said:

    So yes. I made a mistake. Sorry. But with the amount of cognitive dissonance that's required to keep the idea of "This is a persona, but I still take offence to people talking about that persona as if they really hate the real me" in my head, I think I'm at least a bit justified.

    If you understand cognitive dissonance, you can comprehend blakey.


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    @dkf said:

    Why would you be working on confidential medical data in a coffee shop in the first place? That would be front-page material right there (and wouldn't even need Hanzoing).

    Well, yeah. Plus, using company wifi and then switching to wired coffee shop. I guess the shop is next door? Bring your own cable? Too many questions.



  • In a number of cases, you'll also need to change the binding order of the NICs. If your wireless and wired networks are different subnets, your apps may grab a local IP off a higher bound NIC with a lower metric, forcing the traffic onto the less preferred connection.

    Ref: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894564



  • @boomzilla said:

    Plus, using company wifi and then switching to wired coffee shop. I guess the shop is next door? Bring your own cable? Too many questions.

    What, you've never plugged a piece of ethernet cable randomly lying around in a coffee shop into your PC just to see what it does?


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    Is that what the ad talks about?



    • I know it was you who taped my monitor with blue coloring tape!
    • Hey I'm 12, how else do you expect me to amuse myself?
    • That's it, no sex for a week!


  • @boomzilla said:

    Is that what the ad talks about?

    Sorta.

    "Hi! I'm Ania. I'm 12. I'm looking for friends."
    "Hi Ania, I'm Wojtek, I'm 12 too. I'd love to meet you."
    Omnious text underneath: "You never know what's on the other side"

    Also, another poster, with more buttcrack, if anyone's interested.


    Filed under: yep, it was a government-backed campaign



  • Ctrl-S and Ctrl-Q are terminal stop and start control keys. Sometimes Scroll Lock works.

    Unless you meant Windows. Then I don't know.



  • Wait, is @blakeyrat saying that hardware switches for wifi are a bad idea?

    Everything should have a hardware switch. Software glitches. Physically breaking a circuit glitches much less. I should always, especially regarding network connections, have the option to tell the connecting device 'Fuck you, you die now'


    Filed under: No, I wasn't a fan of ACPI either, how could you tell


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