WTF Bites


  • Fake News

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi that might all be true for the technical specifications, because lightning is older.
    But mechanically lightning it is still superior. The port doesn’t have some weird pin sticking out that goes into the plug. WTF is that shit?

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    Are you asking why the USB-C plug is this long tube-form which might not be as rigid as the Lightning plug? I think it's likely due to different requirements in the design.

    AFAIK Lightning needs active signalling before it can really power the lines (the pins are after all exposed), and USB-C plugs are meant to be weaker than their sockets so that hitting the plug while inserted into a socket is less likely to damage the hard-to-replace socket.

    EDIT: On second thought, I might have explained this backwards. Can't be arsed to properly explain my argument for now, I have to get back to work...


  • Fake News

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, what is this?!? Is that dithering?? :wtf:

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    I first thought it’s some kind of display bug. Are OLEDs that shitty?
    But then, if it was a hardware problem surely I couldn’t take a screenshot of it.

    Now I wonder if it's part of Ben's steganography trick. You know, the way screenshotting e.g. the Lounge triggers an "Are you sure you want to upload this screenshot?" toaster if you upload said screenshot elsewhere in the forum.



  • IIRC, the steganography pattern you mention is less random-looking.

    Anyways, the one on @topspin's screenshot is 32x32 pixels and looks like this after zooming and contrast enhancement:
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    Interestingly, it looks very CMYK, like something you'd expect a printer to use.


  • Banned

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Are you asking why the USB-C plug is this long tube-form which might not be as rigid as the Lightning plug? I think it's likely due to different requirements in the design.

    I always thought that USB-C shape is stupid, too. But now when I think about it, with 120W+ charging power that some USB-C devices use, it may have not been a good idea to make those pins easily touchable.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Is that dithering?

    Doesn't look like it. Looks more like a tiled “subtle” background image.


  • BINNED

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    USB-C plugs are meant to be weaker than their sockets so that hitting the plug while inserted into a socket is less likely to damage the hard-to-replace socket.

    That's the opposite of my thought process. For lightning the socket is just the shape of a "hole" and only the cable can break. For USB there's something inside the socket that can mechanically break off.


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare now the question is, what does it mean?
    Is it my forum password hidden in there? Random noise left over from the :disco: days? Or maybe something "illegal" (not sure how much entropy fits in that) used to entrap me? :thonking: :tinfoil-hat: :thonking:



  • Just had to fill out a PDF so I can keep working at home. Not a big deal. Except the box to enter my "remote" address could only show 4 characters. And the font did not auto size down when typing. Good luck reading that...



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    Except the box to enter my "remote" address could only show 4 characters.

    Home is 4 characters


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    Ah, yes, let's randomly detour for no benefit...

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    No there isn't construction or anything, and the speed limit doesn't suddenly go down to 5 or something stupid like that...


  • Banned

    @Tsaukpaetra but it'd be such a Pleasant Drive! :rimshot:



  • @Tsaukpaetra Some of the suggested alternates are just stupid. I've had one "30 m longer". I pass it. And it keeps suggesting it every exit until it got up to something like "2 hrs longer".



  • @dcon My favorite was pre-smartphone, when I had a Garmin stand-alone GPS navigation unit. I lived in WA and was visiting my kids in San Francisco. (I think I was in the area for a job interview and visiting them incidentally.) I needed to get from SF to Fremont, I think it was. My inclination would have been to go south to either the San Mateo or Dumbarton bridge, and I wanted Garmin's advice on which one to take, but Garmin directed me east across the Bay Bridge. Ok, maybe it's a little shorter, or traffic is better this time of day; whatever. I get to the 80/880 junction, and instead of south on 880, it directed me east on 80 toward Sacramento. Of course, I knew that was totally wrong and simply disregarded it from that point on.

    The last time I had used it, I was heading home from some unfamiliar area in Seattle, or something, and once I got onto the freeway, I knew how to get the rest of the way home, so I just shut it off. But it had the :fun: characteristic that unless you explicitly told it to stop trying to get to the previous destination, no matter how long it had been or how far from that destination you were, it would remember that destination regardless of any subsequent destination you might enter. So it was trying to take me on an 800 mile detour back to WA before continuing to where I wanted to go now, some 40 or so miles from my current location.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    unless you explicitly told it to stop trying to get to the previous destination, no matter how long it had been or how far from that destination you were, it would remember that destination

    Good old Garmin. I wonder if my Nuvi 200 still works....



  • @Tsaukpaetra No idea whether mine (whatever model it was; I don't remember) does. It was stolen when my house was burglarized, and I've never seen it since. Don't really miss it, either; not since I got a smartphone.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    unless you explicitly told it to stop trying to get to the previous destination, no matter how long it had been or how far from that destination you were, it would remember that destination

    Good old Garmin. I wonder if my Nuvi 200 still works....

    Mine doesn't. It won't power up. Not even when connected. Or after leaving connected for a while.



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    "May contain traces of wheat" is absolutely NOT gluten-free. Great; now I can't trust anything the Walmart website says is gluten-free. I'm pretty sure some of the stuff in my cart right now is there because the website says so even though the label doesn't.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    unless you explicitly told it to stop trying to get to the previous destination, no matter how long it had been or how far from that destination you were, it would remember that destination

    Good old Garmin. I wonder if my Nuvi 200 still works....

    Mine doesn't. It won't power up. Not even when connected. Or after leaving connected for a while.

    Hrm. My latest records indicate possible flash corruption that self-resolved after a reboot.

    Now I'm really curious! Darn you!



  • @JBert

    ➜ apt-get install vim
    E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
    E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
    
    ➜ fuck
    sudo apt-get install nano
    [sudo] password for nvbn:
    Reading package lists... Done
    


  • BINNED

    Quality internet-sourced advice:

    You have to port forward your router which basically reveals your ip to people that join.

    Strange; I’d have thought that was a result of the part where you tell people what address to connect to.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    I remember there being a fad a few years ago to put commas at the beginning of each list item instead of the end, like this:

    [ 1
    , 2
    , 3
    ]
    

    That way is handy if you want to comment out any individual item with ctrl+/, and marginally less handy in SSMS where they don't have that feature. But also, ideally you'd want the first element on a separate line so you don't comment out var firstThreeNaturalNumbers = [



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare now the question is, what does it mean?
    Is it my forum password hidden in there? Random noise left over from the :disco: days? Or maybe something "illegal" (not sure how much entropy fits in that) used to entrap me? :thonking: :tinfoil-hat: :thonking:

    This is your only option:

    https://youtu.be/OBOZIErHhWM?t=114

    (instructions may differ slightly for iPhone)



  • @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

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    "May contain traces of wheat" is absolutely NOT gluten-free. Great; now I can't trust anything the Walmart website says is gluten-free. I'm pretty sure some of the stuff in my cart right now is there because the website says so even though the label doesn't.

    milk

    How the fuck can you have non-vegan vegetables



  • @hungrier I think the source is most likely sauces, vegetable mixes with chow mien noodles, stuff like that, and they just don't give enough of a 💩 to make sure the equipment is thoroughly clean between batches so there's no cross contamination. (Other brands of frozen veggies don't list any allergen contamination, but don't explicitly say they're allergen free, either. So I just have to take my chances with those.)



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Ah, yes, let's randomly detour for no benefit...

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    No there isn't construction or anything, and the speed limit doesn't suddenly go down to 5 or something stupid like that...

    I am really wondering HTF they calculate this kind of alternates. The way I've done it was to use different combinations of weight for distance and time, so you'd get a faster, but possibly longer, and shorter, but possibly slower, alternative. But not something that wasn't better by at least some criteria.

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    Then ETA calculation did some adjustments to the speeds, so you could occasionally get a fast route slightly slower by ETA. IIRC the reason was that the maps sometimes had higher expected speed on segment than the speed limit, which routing took as a kind of “main road preference”, while ETA calculation clipped the speed by speed limit.

    But this isn't like that. It's some kind of “second result”, but I have absolutely no idea how they pick it.


  • Fake News

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @hungrier I think the source is most likely sauces, vegetable mixes with chow mien noodles, stuff like that, and they just don't give enough of a 💩 to make sure the equipment is thoroughly clean between batches so there's no cross contamination. (Other brands of frozen veggies don't list any allergen contamination, but don't explicitly say they're allergen free, either. So I just have to take my chances with those.)

    Is this the first time you notice a "may contain" label? Because those are almost everywhere.

    I just found this "label reading guide" by the Celiac Disease Foundation and they state that a Gluten-free label should mean the gluten content is < 20 ppm. At the same time, the "may contain" is then a warning that somewhere in the factory they're dealing with flour dust, which means there could still be > 0 ppm on average in a product when a single speck can be taken up by a breeze of air.

    When you're in doubt then you could ask the manufacturer, but unless you're deadly allergic to gluten I wouldn't worry too much about it?



  • @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Celiac Disease Foundation

    That's the problem with gluten: there are three kinds of gluten intolerance: celiac disease, gluten allergy and nonspecific gluten intolerance (which might actually be multiple causes thrown together because we don't yet know the exact mechanism). For those who have the first, traces are generally not a problem, but for some of those that have the second they are.


  • kills Dumbledore

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Ah, yes, let's randomly detour for no benefit...

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    No there isn't construction or anything, and the speed limit doesn't suddenly go down to 5 or something stupid like that...

    I am really wondering HTF they calculate this kind of alternates. The way I've done it was to use different combinations of weight for distance and time, so you'd get a faster, but possibly longer, and shorter, but possibly slower, alternative. But not something that wasn't better by at least some criteria.

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    Then ETA calculation did some adjustments to the speeds, so you could occasionally get a fast route slightly slower by ETA. IIRC the reason was that the maps sometimes had higher expected speed on segment than the speed limit, which routing took as a kind of “main road preference”, while ETA calculation clipped the speed by speed limit.

    But this isn't like that. It's some kind of “second result”, but I have absolutely no idea how they pick it.

    I’ve always assumed it uses data sent back by other maps users, and cases like this are where enough people turned down there to get round an accident, because a child threw up and needed wiping down, because a friend lived down that road and they wanted to swing by to see if they were in etc.



  • @Jaloopa If there was an accident or some other obstruction, then providing the detour as alternate would make sense. But the OP says there wasn't.

    Regarding the data sent by other users, it does not send complete tracks. It wouldn't be very useful, because the routes as a whole are unique. What it does send is speed on segment, from which the system then estimates traffic jams—if everybody moves slowly somewhere, it is probably jammed. It then adds appropriate penalty to the segment and recalculates the route, and if it comes out different, offers you the detour.

    But that's still the “shortest” route for some set of weights, and is usually accompanied by some mark on the map indicating the presumed problem. This just looks like random suboptimal result instead.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    I always assumed it just shows alternatives to provide the choice or in case there's an obstruction it doesn't know about yet.
    I've used the alternative routes before when there's stop-start traffic in front but a clear longer route around it even though staying in the traffic might have been quicker. Sometimes it's better to keep moving.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    But this isn't like that. It's some kind of “second result”, but I have absolutely no idea how they pick it.

    I bet some UX psychologists figured out that people like to have choice, even if it's between shit and obviously much worse shit, so if there's really only one sensible option they display the rand(3)th runner-up result so people will subconsciously praise Google for defaulting to the obviously less bad option and themselves for noticing it.



  • @LaoC I agree. But if you ever used the Dijkstra's algorithm you should understand that getting any “runner-up” results from it … does not even make sense.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @kazitor said in WTF Bites:

    Quality internet-sourced advice:
    "You have to port forward your router which basically reveals your ip to people that join."

    Strange; I’d have thought that was a result of the part where you tell people what address to connect to.

    I suspect he's referring to your local NAT'ed address. Because that's your computers real IP address. Which...his analogy is bad but not completely wrong.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @LaoC I agree. But if you ever used the Dijkstra's algorithm you should understand that getting any “runner-up” results from it … does not even make sense.

    Yeah, but should you really be using that when you're trying to figure out how to goto a destination?



  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    What I really want is the ability to say "I'm towing a trailer". Because here in CA, the limit it 55 - which is between 10 and 15mph slower than a car's limit. Which means the shorter route is likely faster for me, even if it's slower for a car.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @LaoC said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    But this isn't like that. It's some kind of “second result”, but I have absolutely no idea how they pick it.

    I bet some UX psychologists figured out that people like to have choice, even if it's between shit and obviously much worse shit, so if there's really only one sensible option they display the rand(3)th runner-up result so people will subconsciously praise Google for defaulting to the obviously less bad option and themselves for noticing it.

    I swear my truck's built-in navigation does this. Tell it to go to a point and it starts just fine. A few minutes later it tells me the route is adjusted for traffic. The route is unchanged and I'm thinking "what was adjusted?"




  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Not long ago I had a zoom call with some business users of our app and some managers. Some minor widget was not displaying properly and I wasn't sure why, so I asked the presenter to click View Source.

    "Oooh, we are hacking the system! This is so cool!"

    Yes guys, you are real cyber ninjas now.


  • Banned

    @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    What I really want is the ability to say "I'm towing a trailer". Because here in CA, the limit it 55 - which is between 10 and 15mph slower than a car's limit. Which means the shorter route is likely faster for me, even if it's slower for a car.

    I saw that option somewhere deep in Google Maps settings. I mean "shortest route", not "I have a trailer".



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    What I really want is the ability to say "I'm towing a trailer". Because here in CA, the limit it 55 - which is between 10 and 15mph slower than a car's limit. Which means the shorter route is likely faster for me, even if it's slower for a car.

    I saw that option somewhere deep in Google Maps settings. I mean "shortest route", not "I have a trailer".

    Right, but that still won't compute the most efficient route. The issue being the most efficient for a car and a car+trailer are not necessarily the same.



  • @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Is this the first time you notice a "may contain" label? Because those are almost everywhere.

    Of course not. I look very carefully for them. I specifically looked for it in this case, because my previous experience is that every variety of Great Value (Walmart house brand) frozen vegetables may contain traces of wheat, so my reaction when seeing "gluten free" on the website was :doubt:.

    the "may contain" is then a warning that somewhere in the factory they're dealing with flour dust, which means there could still be > 0 ppm on average in a product when a single speck can be taken up by a breeze of air.

    There are 3 labels; I'm not sure if there's an official difference between them, but this is how I tend to interpret them:

    • Produced in a facility that also produces ...: There may or may not be cross-contamination. In some cases, the label also says gluten-free and states that they do gluten testing and strict allergen control. In those cases, I'm confident that the product is, in fact, gluten free.
    • Produced on equipment that also handles ...: Higher probability of cross-contamination. Avoid.
    • May contain traces of ...: Assume it is contaminated. (Gluten-free scanner app makes the same assumption, and gives red "contains gluten" warning.) In some cases, like Great Value mixed vegetables and Great Value packaged nuts, assume the manufacturer just doesn't give a f---, because every single item in that category is labeled as containing every allergen known to humanity.
    • No allergen label: Unknown. Try to find a different brand that is labeled gluten-free, or do without. In some cases, if the risk seems low enough, buy it anyway. (E.g., national brand frozen veggies, because I've never found one actually labeled gluten-free.)

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Celiac Disease Foundation

    That's the problem with gluten: there are three kinds of gluten intolerance: celiac disease, gluten allergy and nonspecific gluten intolerance (which might actually be multiple causes thrown together because we don't yet know the exact mechanism). For those who have the first, traces are generally not a problem, but for some of those that have the second they are.

    Well, it's not like someone with a peanut or shellfish allergy, where you have to carry an epipen, because the reaction is potentially life-threatening, but everything I've ever heard or read is strict 20 ppm limit even for celiac disease. It's an autoimmune disease, and months or years of gluten-free living can be undone by a single exposure, as the body produces antibodies in response to the gluten, and the antibody levels may take months to return to normal. Meanwhile, the antibodies are attacking the intestine, causing irreversible (?) damage, with symptoms including diarrhea, excess flatulence, nutritional deficiencies (because the intestine cannot properly absorb nutrients from food), and increased risk of colon cancer.



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    The calculation was still a shortest path algorithm, after all. It couldn't calculate a detour like this.

    What I really want is the ability to say "I'm towing a trailer". Because here in CA, the limit it 55 - which is between 10 and 15mph slower than a car's limit. Which means the shorter route is likely faster for me, even if it's slower for a car.

    There are “truck” navigations that should be able to do this (and have height and width and weight limits and such). Don't know how good which one actually is.



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    Because here in CA, the limit it 55 - which is between 10 and 15mph slower than a car's limit. Which means the shorter route is likely faster for me, even if it's slower for a car.

    Yeah, but you're in the Bay Area, so you're only driving 5 mph anyway. :half-trolleybus-br:



  • @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    In some cases, like Great Value mixed vegetables and Great Value packaged nuts, assume the manufacturer just doesn't give a f---, because every single item in that category is labeled as containing every allergen known to humanity.

    Or that their production process is so :wtf: that they couldn't guarantee anything even if they cared.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    Why do Eclipse users write such messy code? I think I have an answer:
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  • Java Dev

    @sebastian-galczynski As opposed to vim, which not only lacks spell checking by default, but will highlight any occurrences of the word TODO in code comments.



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    Yes, I suppose arriving by 1/1/1900 on next Tuesday would be sufficiently early in the day.

    (In this case, I actually didn't care about the date at all. I wanted to figure if there was an early enough connection for a certain trip on random weekdays. And all I ever got to pick was the date...)


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @sebastian-galczynski As opposed to vim, which not only lacks spell checking by default, but will highlight any occurrences of the word TODO in code comments.

    You can see that Eclipse actually both highlights the word "todo" and marks it as a spelling error.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @cvi
    This reminds me of this gallery

    Edit: here is the full gallery, I couldn't find the original on imgur: https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-worst-input-fields/


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @sebastian-galczynski As opposed to vim, which not only lacks spell checking by default, but will highlight any occurrences of the word TODO in code comments.

    You can see that Eclipse actually both highlights the word "todo" and marks it as a spelling error.

    There is a Tasks view that you can have open that collects the TODOs (and FIXMEs) from across your code. Useful for not losing sight of all those things you know need to be fixed (but not right now because you're fixing something else). Other IDEs may have something similar.

    Long lasting ones should also go in your Issue tracker or backlog, of course.


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