Killed by Google
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April Fools
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Whatever Neighbourly was.
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@Zecc A location-based chatroom/forum.
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@Zecc said in Killed by Google:
Whatever Neighbourly was.
But the app hasn't grown like we had hoped.
In other words, "NextDoor trounced us."
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@dcon said in Killed by Google:
@Zecc said in Killed by Google:
Whatever Neighbourly was.
But the app hasn't grown like we had hoped.
In other words, "NextDoor trounced us."
It might have helped its growth if anyone had heard of it at all
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Not yet, but you know it's coming.
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(note that that should read "not yet available", not "now available")
Edited to Add: There's marketing copy in there that says if you have a Google Play Music Premium subscription, you'll be moved to an equivalent YouTube Music Premium subscription at no change in price. The gigantic asterisk for that is "prices may change in Serbia, Croatia, and other [unspecified] countries with a fluctuating currency." I know there are at least a few WTFers that applies to, so be on notice.
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The Pixel team
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Reason #1 that I hate digital only media options.
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
The Pixel team
Ehr, I sure hope they didn't take the "killed by Google" part literally...
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@TwelveBaud I'm not looking forward to the GPM->YTM changeover, but thankfully I almost never use GPM anyway (it's not a very good local file player). I only use it to play the occasional song that isn't on my phone when I happen to be away from my media collection. Phone space limitations are annoying, but you work with what you have (or chose).
I just don't want to use a service that plays a video ad before playing a song you uploaded and mixes your video and music plays into one history for suggestions, but that's appears to be what we're getting. :(
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@Parody said in Killed by Google:
I just don't want to use a service that plays a video ad before playing a song you uploaded and mixes your video and music plays into one history for suggestions, but that's appears to be what we're getting. :(
You use google services, it doesn't matter what you want.
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YouTube Polls
Also, does anyone know what that black rounded rectangle thing is I have been seeing lately in Chrome? It changes thickness if I move the tab to my 200% scaled monitor:
It moves between elements when I press tab, I guess it shows what element is in focus...? Why would they change that from what it was before? Guess they killed the old one, then...
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@LB_ It's new, and it's been contributed by Microsoft. I don't know why.
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
April Fools
What they need to cancel is Google Assistant popping up at random to offer to help me with my work, and covering up my phone's display that I'm trying to use to work.
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@da-Doctah said in Killed by Google:
What they need to cancel is Google Assistant popping up at random to offer to help me with my work
Google Assistant has assisted me less than zero times ever, yet I haven't had this "popping up" experience. I'm assuming you let it act as an accessibility service?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Killed by Google:
@da-Doctah said in Killed by Google:
What they need to cancel is Google Assistant popping up at random to offer to help me with my work
Google Assistant has assisted me less than zero times ever, yet I haven't had this "popping up" experience. I'm assuming you let it act as an accessibility service?
There's no "let it act" involved. I keep turning it off, and it keeps turning itself back on. Seems to have something to do with plugging in the headphones.
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It looks like you've plugged in headphones!
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@da-Doctah said in Killed by Google:
Seems to have something to do with plugging in the headphones.
Ah. Do your headphones have an unusual mic on them? It might be detecting the pop as an old-style button which would place a specific resistance on the mic line when pressed as a signal to (un)mute and which may have been repurposed in newer Android versions to trigger the assistant app....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Killed by Google:
@da-Doctah said in Killed by Google:
Seems to have something to do with plugging in the headphones.
Ah. Do your headphones have an unusual mic on them? It might be detecting the pop as an old-style button which would place a specific resistance on the mic line when pressed as a signal to (un)mute and which may have been repurposed in newer Android versions to trigger the assistant app....
I'm not using actual headphones. I plug a cable into the headphone jack so I can hear my music through the car radio (where the other end of the cable is plugged into the car's "Aux" input). I suppose I could forego the phone's own jack and try to bluetooth the audio to a Smartbean plugged into Aux instead.
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@da-Doctah The assistant is triggered by pressing and holding the play/pause button. On a normal wired headset with microphone, the plug has a tip, two rings, and a sleeve, and the play/pause button shorts the microphone (sleeve) and ground (sleeveward ring) together (with other resistances signifying different buttons, and over 1.4 kΩ representing sound from the microphone itself). On a normal set of headphones with no microphone or in-line controls, there's only one ring, and the sleeve is ground. It's possible the disambiguation algorithm for your phone isn't working correctly, or your manufacturer cheaped out and assumed it'd always be their special sauce headset.
Something to try is getting a piece of cellophane tape, cutting it to be about 2/3 the size of the "sleeve" area on the plug, and wrapping it around as close to the cable end of the plug as possible. This will lead your phone to think that you have a full headset plugged in, but one where you never press any buttons and are in complete silence.
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@TwelveBaud Doesn't that carry the risk of getting stuck inside the headphone jack?
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@TwelveBaud
That sounds like a lot of work when you can just set the default Assistant app to "None" in the Android settings instead.
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@da-Doctah said in Killed by Google:
I'm not using actual headphones. I plug a cable into the headphone jack so I can hear my music through the car radio
Have you tried plugging headphones into your car's aux port to make sure it isn't saying "Ok Google" every time you plug something in?
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Sometime between 9:30 and 10:30 yesterday hangouts stopped being able to use my microphone. No clue why, but the mic works as always when I test it in system settings.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
Sometime between 9:30 and 10:30 yesterday hangouts stopped being able to use my microphone. No clue why, but the mic works as always when I test it in system settings.
(we had our group update 3hrs ago)
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
Sometime between 9:30 and 10:30 yesterday hangouts stopped being able to use my microphone. No clue why, but the mic works as always when I test it in system settings.
It's working again so I guess they figured their shit out.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
Sometime between 9:30 and 10:30 yesterday hangouts stopped being able to use my microphone. No clue why, but the mic works as always when I test it in system settings.
It's working again so I guess they figured their shit out.
Things can get a bit weird when Chrome's getting especially eager to apply an update.
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@dkf it wasn't chrome. I know that because it was working with Google Meet. It was hangouts.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
@dkf it wasn't chrome. I know that because it was working with Google Meet. It was hangouts.
It's been working intermittently this morning. Sometimes the status in the hangouts window will say "Calling..." even after the call has been picked up. The OS doesn't see any audio capture streams. It's currently working and the status says, "In voice call..." and the capture stream is there.
So the problem seems to be their detection of when there's a call or not.
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Album art
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
Album art
Useful feature with no obvious downside? No, can’t have that!
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@topspin said in Killed by Google:
no obvious downside
https://www.xda-developers.com/wallpaper-triggers-rare-bug-causing-android-devices-bootloop/
this particular wallpaper causes some Android devices to crash as it makes use of the RGB color space, instead of the sRGB color space that is supported natively on Android.
the description of the patch states that “The issue occurs when the user tries to set as wallpaper an image that is not sRGB. What happens is that variable y value is higher than the histogram bounds, making SysUI crash.Suppose some album art has the wrong color space. It could crash the lock screen and possibly allow access to the phone without unlocking.
FIXED. Lock screen no longer displays any album art.
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
Album art
That's half of my prediction right there - though it was a joke and not a request.
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
Album art
Thank goodness. I hated this "feature" and that there was no system-level option to turn it off. You had to hope your audio application let you do it while using that program. BTW, the default was to show it even for applications from before the feature existed. I really didn't need a giant picture of the host of the podcast I was listening to filling my lock screen, or certain types of art making the lock screen info hard to read.
At some point (Android 10?) they made it very blurry, which was an improvement. Still, I'd rather have the normal background.
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More of the same:
And the slashdot oracle predicts:
2020: Duo an Meet merge to become Duet
2021: Allo splits into Hola and Hi
2022: Duet is discontinued as Hi takes over
2023: Message merges with Hola and is discontinued
2024: Mingle comes out, it like Hi and Hola combined, but all three coexist (but are incompatible with each other)
2025: Mingle turns out to be really great, it is discontinued
2026: Hi merges with YouTube and becomes YouTube Talk. It also supports eBooks.
2027: Hola is discontinued, YouTube Talk now requires you to use your credit card number as an identifier, support for ride sharing is added.
2028: Because YouTube Talk is now a 50GB download and takes 5 minutes to start up (the flight simulator feature didn't help), there is now a lightweight app called Text that is only able to sent 64 character text messages using ASCII characters to residents of the same country.
2029: Because of the limited success of their offering, Google buys successfull startup Showtime and discontinues YouTube Talk, purchases you made with YouTube Talk will be lost unless you register on December 24, between 11pm and midnight.
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Competition to Youtube:
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I guess Google will cancel him soon.
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Apparently Google is reneging their merge of Voice with Hangouts.
Great.
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It seems like sometime in August I stopped getting email notifications on my Youtube subscriptions. I've looked in my settings and email seems to be enabled. I fiddled around a bit and now I seem to be getting notifications that I see when I go to youtube (or have the app open on my phone) but no email.
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@boomzilla Google disabled subscription emails back in August, but then decided not to tell anyone unless they happened to check the YouTube help center. They got several thousand comments asking to revert the change before they locked the post, but they haven't backed down yet.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
It seems like sometime in August I stopped getting email notifications on my Youtube subscriptions. I've looked in my settings and email seems to be enabled. I fiddled around a bit and now I seem to be getting notifications that I see when I go to youtube (or have the app open on my phone) but no email.
You want email notifications? I believe there is a standard answer to that:
Ok, boomer
( millennial is more appropriate here, but who wants to be a millennial?)
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Killed by Google:
@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
It seems like sometime in August I stopped getting email notifications on my Youtube subscriptions. I've looked in my settings and email seems to be enabled. I fiddled around a bit and now I seem to be getting notifications that I see when I go to youtube (or have the app open on my phone) but no email.
You want email notifications? I believe there is a standard answer to that:
Ok, boomer
( millennial is more appropriate here, but who wants to be a millennial?)It's a handy way to have a list of stuff I haven't watched yet. I've often watched videos while exercising on a treadmill. Having them in my inbox makes it easy to watch them in reverse chronological order across different channels, giving me some variety in a particular session.
I know google is saying that discontinuing emails didn't reduce viewership but I can guarantee it will reduce mine.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
It seems like sometime in August I stopped getting email notifications on my Youtube subscriptions. I've looked in my settings and email seems to be enabled. I fiddled around a bit and now I seem to be getting notifications that I see when I go to youtube (or have the app open on my phone) but no email.
Did you remember to click the bell or whatever other rituals Google demands nowadays to keep you subscribed to your subscriptions?
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@Gąska said in Killed by Google:
@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
It seems like sometime in August I stopped getting email notifications on my Youtube subscriptions. I've looked in my settings and email seems to be enabled. I fiddled around a bit and now I seem to be getting notifications that I see when I go to youtube (or have the app open on my phone) but no email.
Did you remember to click the bell or whatever other rituals Google demands nowadays to keep you subscribed to your subscriptions?
I went back in and looked at the channels where I had previously been getting emails and they seemed to be set to give me all notifications. Which I think they actually are now. I don't recall the state of my general notifications setting when I first went in there but I suspect that I changed something that started making them actually notify me.
Part of my confusion was that I didn't realize their setting for "turn on email notifications" was apparently a complete lie.
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@boomzilla said in Killed by Google:
I went back in and looked at the channels where I had previously been getting emails and they seemed to be set to give me all notifications.
My solution is simple: I can't get any subscription emails if I don't have any subscriptions in the first place.