Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My normal temperature, measured from ear, at rest, is 36.3C , or thereabouts.
I usually notice that I'm sick when it gets to 37C. Working capacity is severy reduced by 37.5C. Bedridden at 38C+.Similar for me. Usually around 36.5 at rest, When it goes above 37 I usually notice without need for a thermometer, at 37.5 I have a hard time concentrating or getting anything useful done. Just yesterday I had a somewhat infuriating phone conversation with a doctor's assistant insisting that "you're fine" while I could feel how my brain was being gently slow-cooked.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage Ouch. I have several childhood scars (like everyone, I guess), but at least I went to see a doctor (or to the ER) when that happened...
I had a sort of "star" on the side of the forehead (if only Harry Potter had been published at that time, I could have made so much fun of it!), made of at least 4 overlapping scars in the same place. I don't remember all of them happening, the first ones I was too young, but according to my mother there was at least one time I fell in the stairs while playing with a small ride-on car, another time I just walked into the metal thing on the side of a refuse bin while not looking where I was going, yet another where I fell on some rocks while playing outside, and another that I remember when going ice skating (first lap of the rink after not skating for the whole of summer, IIRC...).
I wasn't a particularly clumsy kid and don't have many more (that I can remember...), but these ones just all happened to be at the same spot. They faded with age and are no longer really visible.
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years, I was frightfully afraid of pain as a child. Strangely enough, I remember stepping on a plank with a nail through it piercing my foot all the way through, and not at all being bothered with the pain and various other things. I was just deathly afraid of pain which caused me to be pretty careful.
As a teenager I went bananas and did all kinds of incredibly dumb stuff and so have the scars to show for it. Still hasn't stopped doing dumb stuff, I just toned it down a bit, so not the scars are a lot further apart. Chronologically.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow When I was a kid, my mother's rule of thumb for "yep, you're sick enough not to go to school" was 38 C (and obvious cases such as spewing vomit...).
My main cause for staying home was asthma attacks. When the weather would change in the fall or the spring I'd often be out for a week or so before I got a shot from my doctor (epinephrine or eventually sus-phrine).
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Somebody rediscovered chicken pox parties, I see...
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years
Same here. I have two scars, one on my knee, the other on my arm, both from bicycle accidents in my late teens.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I bet he's one of those indestructible old farts that drink and smoke and eats nothing but bacon.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years
Same here. I have two scars, one on my knee, the other on my arm, both from bicycle accidents in my late teens.
I have most of them in my hands, but two in my face, two on my scalp and a few on my wrists, one on my thigh and one down my spine. Some are from knives, some from fists, some from clubs and a bunch from barbed wire. The one down my spine is the only really significant and that's from 7 surgeons working for half a day straight.
Pretty poor performance considering the others were created in a few seconds each.
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@hungrier said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Today, by coincidence,
client
did some comparison load testing of several webex meeting systems to try to determine which would be the best for an online event next week, and my company had an update call on MS Teams. Here's what we found:- Cisco webex (billed under contract to
client
) is okay - Adobe Connect (I already forgot if that's the name) isn't very good
- Zoom had by far the best performance. Super clear audio and video, and stable connection, even with participants from Europe. And it seems the 40 minute limit isn't in effect
- Teams was the worst, at least from my perspective. Audio kept getting the robotic Skype warble and sometimes cutting out; video was down to blocky still frames. And everyone is local
Surprisingly, Teams turned out to have hands down the best audio quality of all the ones we tried (also SIP conferencing, Webex, Teamviewer). It's just that the UI is a complete clusterfuck.
- Cisco webex (billed under contract to
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@LaoC It may not have been an entirely apples-to-apples comparison, since the computer
client
gave me was connected to the wired network and my work machine with Teams was on wifi.
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I've just been to the supermarket. Haven't been in 1.5 weeks, thought by now people have bought everything they need and stopped hoarding. Apparently not. There was some toilet paper left (just checked out of curiosity) but not all that much. Last time I went they were almost out of fresh milk, this time there was barely any bread left.
WTF are people doing? Those are perishable foods, why are they buying more of it than usual? Either people are sitting at home eating and shitting all day (that would explain the TP situation), or they just buy stuff they throw away later.At least xkcd://pasta doesn't go bad.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I've just been to the supermarket. Haven't been in 1.5 weeks, thought by now people have bought everything they need and stopped hoarding. Apparently not. There was some toilet paper left (just checked out of curiosity) but not all that much. Last time I went they were almost out of fresh milk, this time there was barely any bread left.
WTF are people doing? Those are perishable foods, why are they buying more of it than usual? Either people are sitting at home eating and shitting all day (that would explain the TP situation), or they just buy stuff they throw away later.At least xkcd://pasta doesn't go bad.
IME, bread is a time-of-day thing. Most supermarkets don't sell yesterday's bread, so by end-of-day they're out.
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The guy next to me at work apparently had the virus. It's been over two weeks since he was in the office, so I'm not too worried, but he's oldish and has at least one condition that puts him in a risk group, but he is apparently recovering. So alarming, but ultimately good.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Last time I went they were almost out of fresh milk, this time there was barely any bread left.
WTF are people doing? Those are perishable foods, why are they buying more of it than usual?Because now they have to eat at home; going out isn't an option anymore.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
WTF are people doing? Those are perishable foods, why are they buying more of it than usual? Either people are sitting at home eating and shitting all day (that would explain the TP situation), or they just buy stuff they throw away later.
Was wondering the same today. Eggs were out, availability of pasta is spotty, and a few other things. Vegetables are randomly there (or not).
Although I'm also suspecting that it might be related to restocking shelves. Since the closest supermarket is tiny, they normally have people refill all the time, but might be avoiding that, since it would make it impossible to keep the mandated distances (those are difficult already; there's a constant game of checking who's going to what aisle). And I typically end up going quite late.
I might go early some day, just to see if I can get some reasonable pasta at some point again.
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Pasta is really easy to make at home and the large types (Fettuccine, tagliatelle, lasagna, etc...) are all pretty easy to roll by hand as well, so no press is needed. All told it probably takes an hour to make the noodles (that includes the 30 minutes of rest time), but making double/triple batches don't add much time (just a few extra minutes of rolling) and you can freeze the extra for months.
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@Dragoon Yeah, the thought hit me a few days ago, but so far is winning out. I've made fresh pasta before, and was quite happy with the results, but, yeah, it takes a bit of time and effort.
However, I did get to the point of making homemade meatballs, so, I guess, give a week or two. (And another few, and I'll be baking my own bread at home. )
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Although I'm also suspecting that it might be related to restocking shelves. Since the closest supermarket is tiny, they normally have people refill all the time, but might be avoiding that, since it would make it impossible to keep the mandated distances (those are difficult already; there's a constant game of checking who's going to what aisle). And I typically end up going quite late.
I haven't seen it in my local supermarket, but apparently some supermarkets have resorted to closing aisles for restocking. Given how wide aisles tend to be here, they probably should be converted to one-way as well.
Many shops here are still open (some, like DIY stores, are doing good business). In almost all shops a shopping cart is mandatory. If the shop doesn't have carts, baskets will be mandatory instead. And the number available is tuned to one per 10m² of store space. If no carts or baskets are available, no additional people are allowed to enter the shop, and this is enforced.
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
In almost all shops a shopping cart is mandatory.
That's almost clever. Took me a few seconds to figure out the purpose of that rule.
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@jinpa Yup, enforcing the official limit on the number of simultaneous customers.
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@jinpa Yup, enforcing the official limit on the number of simultaneous customers.
Also might tend to
increaseequalize theaveragedistance between them even with equal numbers of customers.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The one question that one of my friends came up with was about the environmental impact of said single-use anti-tank RPG - after all, you fire the thing and throw the rest away. Ridiculous question or not - apparently that was indeed something they had thought about, and many of the parts were biodegradable.
Every industry is bound to get infected at least once by that particular mental illness. No matter how ridiculous.
Another example: Mercedes used biodegradable wiring in their cars during 1993-1996.
But did they do it on purpose?
Alternative joke time: The Italians and English used that for decades in their vehicles, just not on purpose.
Second alternative joke: The Russians made entire cars that were biodegradable!
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Second alternative joke: The
RussiansGermans made entire cars that were biodegradable!FTF
Yboomzilla. But Trabants were the joke anyway…
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Second alternative joke: The
RussiansGermans made entire cars that were biodegradable!FTF
Yboomzilla. But Trabants were the joke anyway…At least you could fix them MacGyver style.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
At least you could fix them MacGyver style.
Your average farmer could probably fabricobble something up for the engine.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years
Same here. I have two scars, one on my knee, the other on my arm, both from bicycle accidents in my late teens.
I have most of them in my hands, but two in my face, two on my scalp and a few on my wrists, one on my thigh and one down my spine. Some are from knives, some from fists, some from clubs and a bunch from barbed wire. The one down my spine is the only really significant and that's from 7 surgeons working for half a day straight.
Pretty poor performance considering the others were created in a few seconds each....
I have nothing.
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@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years
Same here. I have two scars, one on my knee, the other on my arm, both from bicycle accidents in my late teens.
I have most of them in my hands, but two in my face, two on my scalp and a few on my wrists, one on my thigh and one down my spine. Some are from knives, some from fists, some from clubs and a bunch from barbed wire. The one down my spine is the only really significant and that's from 7 surgeons working for half a day straight.
Pretty poor performance considering the others were created in a few seconds each....
I have nothing.
I've been pretty open about doing all sorts of dumb shit in my youth.
That said, the largest scar I have on my wrists is a burn I got last year from a scalding hot motorcycle exhaust when I bent over the bike to pick up the helmet that was on the other side of it. It's about 6 cm long and 3 cm wide.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It's about 6 cm long and 3 cm wide.
That's a small, oddly shaped helmet.
...Oh, you meant the exhaust pipe.
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In more :corona: related
newsolds, manglement at my current gig just realized that people may go ill en masse, and if us developers do, actual production will grind to a halt so they are having an emergency meeting to manglement a fix for that.
I wonder how the hell they intend to do that. I'm in a team of 4 developer, 1 ux, 1 tester, 1 architect, 1 cm, 1 copy, and 3-4 managers. The managers all calling in sick would not matter for a month or two, we'd still have plenty of work to do.
If pretty much anyone else goes awol for an extended period, especially several of them, things will pretty soon end up pushing past incredibly hard deadlines.
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Status: System warning has been issued. Looks like I might have it.
Just. Peachy.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I might have it
Congratulations! Chances are high there are several around here who have it or had it but never got passed the light symptoms stage.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
the light symptoms stage.
It's a good thing I have a
ventilatorAPAP machine to help breath, right?
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Second alternative joke: The Russians made entire cars that were biodegradable!
I think you mean East Germans rather than Russians. Unless you meant to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada, but they’re not biodegradable as much as that they make even American and British cars of the 1970s seem good quality.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Second alternative joke: The Russians made entire cars that were biodegradable!
I think you mean East Germans rather than Russians. Unless you meant to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada, but they’re not biodegradable as much as that they make even American and British cars of the 1970s seem good quality.
That doesn't really do justice to Ladas. They were long-lasting if you just maintained them. I still see some on the road today. But they took the "no frills" approach very seriously, which gave a bad rep, I guess.
Plus, they started up without pre-heating in the dead of winter. A feat achieved by almost no American or European car at the time.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Second alternative joke: The Russians made entire cars that were biodegradable!
I think you mean East Germans rather than Russians. Unless you meant to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada, but they’re not biodegradable as much as that they make even American and British cars of the 1970s seem good quality.
That doesn't really do justice to Ladas. They were long-lasting if you just maintained them. I still see some on the road today. But they took the "no frills" approach very seriously, which gave a bad rep, I guess.
Plus, they started up without pre-heating in the dead of winter. A feat achieved by almost no American or European car at the time.
The soviet design philosophy of "It must be fixable by a drunk farmer with a sledgehammer" is a pretty nifty one. It does, however, not lend itself to sophistication.
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A tale from !
So far 828 deaths attributed to this virus. 93% of those where above 65 of age. We also have the youngest death in Europe at age 12.
Just shy of 5000 hospitalized with 1088 in intensive care but 834 of those have 'respiratory assistance'. This means we have used over half of our intensive care capacity, including the almost dubbeling of capacity that was achieved in march. Without that effort we would have reached our capacity.
The hospital inflow has slowed but not halted. Partially because rules to limit the inflow are in full effect but hopefully also because we are pushing the curve and thus slowing the growth.Dutch Source: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/04/01/liveblog-1-april/ based on the daily official numbers
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@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My daughter watched a video teaching how to make masks from bras.
This is what we'll be doing tomorrow after work. Because why not ?
My company have ordered cloth masks that can kill bacteria (invented by PolyU) and will distribute it in a few days, however I'll be working at home until next Monday.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Unless you meant to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada,
That's the one. I was rushed to make a joke. Plus, quarantine day drinking.
Was it the Lada or the Trabant, or possibly a different communist car, that had a body made from linen? Or denim? It was some fiber mixed with adhesive? Basically fiberglass without the glass?
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@cheong And that's supposed to help with a virus how?
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Unless you meant to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada,
That's the one. I was rushed to make a joke. Plus, quarantine day drinking.
Was it the Lada or the Trabant, or possibly a different communist car, that had a body made from linen? Or denim? It was some fiber mixed with adhesive? Basically fiberglass without the glass?
The Trabant at least, its body was made from cotton waste and a resin. However, it looks like it wouldn't biodegrade on its own thanks to that resin, so likely the most economic way to dispose of it was to grind it to rubble and use it as a aggregate in concrete like Wikipedia says.
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@Rhywden it won't help the virus, but it'll help the hysterical society to be less hysterical. Sometimes the only cure for lies is more lies.
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@jinpa the seen vs the unseen. It's a recurring theme with policy making at all levels, including private organizations as well as public ones.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong And that's supposed to help with a virus how?
May help with the opportunistic bacterial infections that often complicate a viral infection.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong And that's supposed to help with a virus how?
May help with the opportunistic bacterial infections that often complicate a viral infection.
Yeah, but those come after the viral infection. Plus, in that case (where you actually have to worry about secondary infections) the virus makes breathing a bit of a problem so wearing a mask is right out.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong And that's supposed to help with a virus how?
May help with the opportunistic bacterial infections that often complicate a viral infection.
Yeah, but those come after the viral infection. Plus, in that case (where you actually have to worry about secondary infections) the virus makes breathing a bit of a problem so wearing a mask is right out.
I've been lead to believe that masks like these mostly protect other people from your infections, in any case.