Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@Gąska 😍 now tell me, what's another memorable car from the late '90s? Hmm, thought so.
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@El_Heffe my little red cat who is perennially coughing and sneezing (but he's otherwise fine! I suspect he's allergic to something) has just sneezed a ball of snot over my trousers. I think that the next pandemic is going to start here.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska 😍 now tell me, what's another memorable car from the late '90s? Hmm, thought so.
Ferrari F50 I guess?
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@Carnage meh, supercars are super, but that's not something you and I are going to drive. In fact, of all the Ferraris, the most memorable is probably the Testarossa as it's relatively cheap to buy second-hand.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage meh, supercars are super, but that's not something you and I are going to drive. In fact, of all the Ferraris, the most memorable is probably the Testarossa as it's relatively cheap to buy second-hand.
There are some supercars within my economic range, I just don't think it's anywhere near worth the money. And most of them are not even remotely memorable anyway.
But the F50 is memorable mostly because its one of those insane cars that you're lucky to even see and hear. And, no, not worth the money. And more into hypercar range.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@remi honestly, small two-stroke engine, so if it's anything like a 500, I'd expect it to be basically indestructible.
Italy has a glorious pedigree when it comes to small motorcycles on four wheels. Take the 126 for example, that supposedly is a Pole's dear pet:
🎵 Isn't she loooovely 🎵
Depending on how much power you extract from the two stroke. But yes, they are much easier to produce and work on. With a high power output the reliability goes to hell pretty fast.
Congratulations! You (and, more importantly, all the Italians/Poles here) made me register, after ten years of reading this.
Fiat 500 was not two-stroke engine! Unlike Trabant (the resin-cloth "bakelitenwagen") and Wartburg (the other, all-metal GDR car), it was four-stroke. It was two-cylinder, which might confuse someone (but that is WTF by itself).
I owned one (the polish version) in early 2000s. I even got a speeding ticket (75 km/h!). Also, I have successfully loaded it with five people (dorm friends), but I do not have any official proof of that.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska 😍 now tell me, what's another memorable car from the late '90s?
Multipla is 90s? TIL.
But to answer your question: VW Golf, Mercedes W210, BMW E36, Peugeot 306, Opel Astra, Skoda Felicia.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska 😍 now tell me, what's another memorable car from the late '90s?
Multipla is 90s? TIL.
But to answer your question: VW Golf, Mercedes W210, BMW E36, Peugeot 306, Opel Astra, Skoda Felicia.
Late 90s was E46.
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@loopback0 I'm from Poland. Our 90s are your 80s.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
BMW E
3631
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I even got a speeding ticket (75 km/h!)
Paging @obeselymorbid
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I even got a speeding ticket (75 km/h!).
Did you use the "But officer, it's obviously a mistake. My car can't even go that fast!" excuse?
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@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I even got a speeding ticket (75 km/h!).
Did you use the "But officer, it's obviously a mistake. My car can't even go that fast!" excuse?
No, I wanted to get it framed.
Also, it was downhill, so up to 90 km/h is possible. Although I am pretty sure I wasn't going faster than 60, judging by the structural integrity report.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@remi honestly, small two-stroke engine, so if it's anything like a 500, I'd expect it to be basically indestructible.
Italy has a glorious pedigree when it comes to small motorcycles on four wheels. Take the 126 for example, that supposedly is a Pole's dear pet:
🎵 Isn't she loooovely 🎵
Depending on how much power you extract from the two stroke. But yes, they are much easier to produce and work on. With a high power output the reliability goes to hell pretty fast.
Congratulations! You (and, more importantly, all the Italians/Poles here) made me register, after ten years of reading this.
Fiat 500 was not two-stroke engine! Unlike Trabant (the resin-cloth "bakelitenwagen") and Wartburg (the other, all-metal GDR car), it was four-stroke. It was two-cylinder, which might confuse someone (but that is WTF by itself).
I owned one (the polish version) in early 2000s. I even got a speeding ticket (75 km/h!). Also, I have successfully loaded it with five people (dorm friends), but I do not have any official proof of that.
Yeah, right. Got mixed up. Even though two-cylinder, four-stroke basically means that it only fires half the time (but then again there are many three-cylinder four-stroke engines). I wonder why they didn't make it a two-stroke. It's just as well though as the Fiat 500 can still run on modern unleaded fuel with no additives (IIRC).
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@Kamil-Podlesak this reminds me, five people in an entry-level Fiat Panda (last production run before the switch to the modern models). Pedal to the metal, slight downhill, we got slightly over 105km/h while the speedometer indicator wobbled like crazy.
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@admiral_p The only problem with that is when people in the car collectively weigh more than the car itself does, once it gets going you need an uphill slope to stop it
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Dodge Viper
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@jinpa I didn't even get that bit. Yeah, he summed up the moral quandary. So did everyone else.
I must have heard people use the word "minimax" thousands of times in the past couple of weeks. I'm so sick of it.
That's, um, why?! Unless I'm completely wrong (and I haven't read the article yet, will do later), minimax isn't at all applicable here. That's how you optimize against a rational antagonist, which a virus pandemic isn't. Of course you might still want to minimize the chances of the worst case scenarios instead of trying to optimize for the expected outcome, but that's more like tweaking a utility function.
In a minimax game, if the virus had the chance of miraculously mutating into an unstoppable killer that would wipe out all life immediately, it would do that. And you'd have to defend against that, no matter what. But the chances of that are essentially nil, so it doesn't affect our decision making.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
what's another memorable car from the late '90s?
Th!nk city, GM EV1, Smart fortwo EV...
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yeah, but you don't need the antibacterial stuff for that.
If you're going to reuse the mask, you'll want it have some kind of antibacterial property to avoid bacteria breed in there.
You should discard the mask after one use, even if it's a proper medical mask.
You should discard the mask after wearing it up to 4 hours, if you're talking about proper way to use it.
Just that we don't have that many masks to waste now.
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I've heard that since there are more people got infected, their hospital implemented measure that, if a patient have fever or respiratory symptoms, they're not allowed to enter hospital directly, but have to get chest X-ray from a tent set outside the hospital, just to be safe.
However since it takes roughly 1-2 days after symptom developed to see the glassy pattern on X-ray, I think this is somewhat "just a comforting measure".
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
In a minimax game, if the virus had the chance of miraculously mutating into an unstoppable killer that would wipe out all life immediately, it would do that.
Would it, though? That would essentially wipe out the virus as well (just after it wipes out all potential hosts). I'd rather think that it should become less deadly, and with milder symptoms.
During a discussion, somebody did raise the point that even if the virus sticks around "forever", it should become less deadly over time. Milder symptoms will cause the virus to spread way more over time than very deadly runs (besides killing its host and limiting spread that way, we will be much more thorough in tracking and isolating such cases).
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Depending on how much power you extract from the two stroke. But yes, they are much easier to produce and work on. With a high power output the reliability goes to hell pretty fast.
Or if you do two-strokes the way the Dutch military wanted them in the 1960s. They decided to buy DKW Mungas to replace their M38A1 jeeps, but wanted a separate oil system with a pump rather than mixing oil into the fuel, like the German military did. My father was in a repair unit of the Dutch Army at the time, and has stories of Munga engines not just seizing, but seizing on the test drive after a repair caused by the engine having seized … However, when I talked to a British owner of such a vehicle at a military vehicle rally, he was surprised to hear that tale and said he had never had any engine trouble at all — upon which it turned out he mixed the oil into the fuel instead.
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@El_Heffe said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Germans can suck our cock.
that's 14 years ago ...
Doesn’t stop the English from going:—
1966!!!
especially towards Germans. Though in some British comedy panel show a few years ago, I saw someone point out that the Germans could just reply:—
1954, 1974, 1990, 2014!!!
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
Wish I could work on my hobbies... Instead I just have to work!
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
Tired of being stuck inside all day with nothing to do.
Want to go the mall and stare at my phone, go to a concert and stare at my phone, go to a movie and stare at my phone.
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
In a minimax game, if the virus had the chance of miraculously mutating into an unstoppable killer that would wipe out all life immediately, it would do that.
Would it, though? That would essentially wipe out the virus as well (just after it wipes out all potential hosts). I'd rather think that it should become less deadly, and with milder symptoms.
Depends a bit on what you'd define the "goal" of the hypothetical antagonistic virus to be. If the goal is to win "Plague, Inc.", yes it would. My point was just that I don't think this is at all the right setting for minimax.
During a discussion, somebody did raise the point that even if the virus sticks around "forever", it should become less deadly over time. Milder symptoms will cause the virus to spread way more over time than very deadly runs (besides killing its host and limiting spread that way, we will be much more thorough in tracking and isolating such cases).
Probably true, there's selection pressure against being too lethal.
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@dcon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I bet he did know the truth; he was just "asymptomatic".
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@Luhmann
Oh and for those doubting: today we also surpassed the normal yearly death rate for the flu. So unless none of the more than 1000 people in intensive care roll over we have as much death by covid as by flu.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yeah, but you don't need the antibacterial stuff for that.
If you're going to reuse the mask, you'll want it have some kind of antibacterial property to avoid bacteria breed in there.
You should discard the mask after one use, even if it's a proper medical mask.
If it's a disposable mask and you have spares.
But, you know, washable and disinfectable masks exist. Some of them you can even chuck in a steam-sterilizer.
Also, after this particular pandemia dies down a bit, I'm getting one of these:
If I have to go mingle with potentially lethal carriers for any reason, those flimsy surgical masks and lab-goggles are about the last thing I want on my face.
I only have one without a "glass" bit.
I have several such masks and a full set of SCBAs. When all this started my wife asked if we had any face masks if we needed them. I had several boxes of N95 particle masks for working in the garage and then remembered I used to have a neighbor that sold PPE and had once given me an absolute shitload of respirators. We have close to a lifetime supply of P99 and P100 filters along with an absolute shitton of 6001, 6002 and 6003 chemical cartridges.
Mildly garagey, but not too horribly bad story time:
My BILs wife is absolutely fucking crazy and self-absorbed. She is also an absolute chameleon of a "friend". Whatever the latest person she has latched on to is in to, she suddenly becomes fascinated with.
Also, she has a mother who is in hospice with Alzheimer's and other issues. I get that sucks, but it is literally 99% of everything she ever talks about when around us.
When all of the self-isolation stuff started my mother-in-law asks if we were prepared. Jokingly I dig out the SCBAs and dusted them off and masked up as I was preparing dinner. My wife takes a picture of it and send it to her mother who thought it was funny enough to send to my brother-in-law, who thought it was funny enough to show his family.
My sister-in-law did not find it funny at all, posted a screed about how no one should joke about any of this because blah blah blah blah and blocked all of us on social media.
So that worked out for the best as far as we are concerned.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cheong said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yeah, but you don't need the antibacterial stuff for that.
If you're going to reuse the mask, you'll want it have some kind of antibacterial property to avoid bacteria breed in there.
In case of reuse, why not go the whole way and apply a treatment which works properly to clean the mask?
Easier said than done for such materials. They tend to damage easily when you try to clean them and anything harsh enough to kill everything biological would probably reduce the efficacy of the mask.
Gas sterilization might work. But it's not exactly cheap or readily available.
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Yeah, can't exactly use an autoclave on them.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p I can think of several potential causes. Like say, using int session IDs.
: "Italy's a small country with honest, working-man, population. Surely we don't have 60,000 companies. Nevermind 60,000 concurrently coming to the site?"
The rest of us:
You'd be surprised what can happen when you don't take the scale of traffic properly into account.
Why wouldn't 2 billion IDs be enough?
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You and your fancy 32-bit computers!
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@El_Heffe said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
I think it's more a matter of going and doing things with other people. Some people are very social.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Luhmann
Oh and for those doubting: today we also surpassed the normal yearly death rate for the flu. So unless none of the more than 1000 people in intensive care roll over we have as much death by covid as by flu.Is "we" Belgium here?
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Some people are very social.
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@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I'm not wearing an anklet!
The what-are-you-wearing thread is .
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@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Some people are very social.
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Either that, or they usually run away screaming after reading a few threads. And I'm not even talking about the Garage!
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I didn't go see a doctor even when I managed to almost cut off a fingertip at the age of 6. The finger still has a nifty kink because I severed the tendons. Some surgical tape was applied in the bathroom, and that was it.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I think most of my scars are from my teenage years
Same here. I have two scars, one on my knee, the other on my arm, both from bicycle accidents in my late teens.
I have most of them in my hands, but two in my face, two on my scalp and a few on my wrists, one on my thigh and one down my spine. Some are from knives, some from fists, some from clubs and a bunch from barbed wire. The one down my spine is the only really significant and that's from 7 surgeons working for half a day straight.
Pretty poor performance considering the others were created in a few seconds each.I have far too many to count, from old bad habits, and from play time.
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The researchers also used a novel approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that delivers the spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is strongest. The patch goes on like a Band-Aid and then the needles — which are made entirely of sugar and the protein pieces — simply dissolve into the skin.
“We developed this to build on the original scratch method used to deliver the smallpox vaccine to the skin, but as a high-tech version that is more efficient and reproducible patient to patient,” Falo said. “And it’s actually pretty painless — it feels kind of like Velcro.”
Very science fictiony. Can't wait to try something like this instead of a needle.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
I think it's more a matter of going and doing things with other people. Some people are very social.
It's not just sociability. If you're used to driving around, getting fresh air, etc., being cooped up can make you feel like a nursing home resident.
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
I think it's more a matter of going and doing things with other people. Some people are very social.
It's not just sociability. If you're used to driving around, getting fresh air, etc., being cooped up can make you feel like a nursing home resident.
Yeah and a big factor can be where you live. I've lived in a big city apartment building. That would really be torture.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I’ve got a feeling that all those people I hear complain about being cooped up inside all day, don’t have any hobbies they can do indoors.
I think it's more a matter of going and doing things with other people. Some people are very social.
It's not just sociability. If you're used to driving around, getting fresh air, etc., being cooped up can make you feel like a nursing home resident.
Yeah and a big factor can be where you live. I've lived in a big city apartment building. That would really be torture.
In my early 20s, I lived in a huge building containing approximately 30 studio apartments, almost all of which were occupied by extremely noisy neighbors. And my balcony faced a church and a busy tram station.
I cannot find the words to describe how glad I am that I don't live there now.