Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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Well, looks like my furnace failed, and the apartment office is closed due to coronavirus. I guess I get to freeze to death.
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@boomzilla
I kinda get that you need the graphs to scale so that data's actually visible. But it's a bit disingenuous to put "where countries are on the curve" and then have all the countries rescaled so their peak new cases per day is the same height as all the other countries' peak (plus, you know, probably per capita would be better).Japan's peak, for example, should be SEVENTY TIMES SMALLER than China's peak
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@mott555
Can I have the best parts of your computer rig?
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@izzion It's a 3-year-old laptop. I'm not sure "best part" has any meaning, except maybe the 40" 4K TV I only paid $300 for a few years ago.
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@izzion said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla
I kinda get that you need the graphs to scale so that data's actually visible. But it's a bit disingenuous to put "where countries are on the curve" and then have all the countries rescaled so their peak new cases per day is the same height as all the other countries' peak (plus, you know, probably per capita would be better).Japan's peak, for example, should be SEVENTY TIMES SMALLER than China's peak
Well...the whole point was to look at their curves.
Which, again, is interesting but of course a single graph cannot tell the whole story.
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My company hooks us up with a service where you can call a doctor and get a consult over the phone. It normally comes with a $40 copay but the company is covering that between now and June 4th.
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The Czech government continues to outdo themselves. A while ago they announced that shops are to only let in seniors (people 65+) between 10 AM and noon each day, so they could do their shopping in less crowded shops, in less contact with people. Seems reasonable, I suppose, I don't think it does much good but it doesn't cause any harm either.
Now, after a few days, they found out old people tend to wake up early and do their shopping early in the morning, so they decided to change the time to 7-9 AM to suit them better. Still reasonable... except they announced it half an hour ago, at 9 PM, after all the evening news programs were over, and the change goes into effect tomorrow. So tomorrow morning a ton of people who wanted to get groceries in the morning will be pissed for no reason because shops won't let them in, and a bunch of seniors will go in at 10 with everyone else because they had no idea the policy changed.
This isn't really a big deal by itself, but it's just the latest in an endless string of completely avoidable blunders. They could have announced the change earlier, or it could have gone into effect on Saturday, but no, fuck you. It's like Agile policymaking, move fast and break things (and ruin your chances of reelection).
Edit: Oh and I just realized, of course 7-9 PM is when most people go to work, a lot of them on public transport - the same one that a lot of seniors going to stores will be using. Having them go at 10-12 would mean a lot less people on the buses and trams. Sigh.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
To help the service industry a bit, I just went to a half empty restaurant and got some nice boar stew with cranberries (kneeling optional) for two.
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@blek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
This isn't really a big deal by itself, but it's just the latest in an endless string of completely avoidable blunders. They could have announced the change earlier, or it could have gone into effect on Saturday, but no, fuck you. It's like Agile policymaking, move fast and break things (and ruin your chances of reelection).
I don't think it's such a big string of blunders, and the agile policymaking makes sense since speed did matter. They just seem not to know when to stopâthey've already enacted most things they could without disrupting most any production, and tweaking the shopping times could have waited a few days to know its actual acceptance. Instead they need to focus on getting the missing medical supplies. They are well behind on that front.
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@Bulb Yeah, that's exactly what I mean, the policy has been in effect for several days already, they could have just changed it starting on Saturday, it wouldn't have made any significant difference, but nooo, they're just going to cause chaos for absolutely no reason...
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Here in Argentina we're going to lockdown from tomorrow until March 31st at least. Fortunately the company I work at has finally let us work from home.
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Tesla told to shut down its factory. Elon Musk says "Fuck You".
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@El_Heffe Elon can fornicate with his hat.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My company hooks us up with a service where you can call a doctor and get a consult over the phone. It normally comes with a $40 copay but the company is covering that between now and June 4th.
That may not be accurate. Our health insurance has a similar program and now through June 4th the telemedicine company is foregoing all co-pays. My wife's employer doesn't have to cover any of it.
Not that they shouldn't be commended for the action, but they are also doing it in part to get people to try their service.
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@mott555 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Well, looks like my furnace failed, and the apartment office is closed due to coronavirus. I guess I get to freeze to death.
It's been nice knowing you. Hug a Mosin as you perish.
Speaking of......will you put me in your will?
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From University of Washington: total bar height is number of tests performed that day. Either that's not exponential growth or the exponent is really really slow. Testing has ramped up strongly, but confirmed cases haven't. https://depts.washington.edu/uwviro/
Does it mean much? Dunno.
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Local schools are now closed until at least May 1st.
I imagine that means Lil' Dude's ECE will cut tuition to compensate. Which means that teachers most likely won't get paid. I reached out to other parents (I'm very thankful for old people who don't know how to BCC on emails) and it looks like we have their backs. Everyone should be made whole on that front.
I think that local public schools will continue paying teachers. I asked our oldest's teacher and he said they were all going to be fine. I certainly hope so because his school doesn't have the number of high income people to step up.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Local schools are now closed until at least May 1st.
I imagine that means Lil' Dude's ECE will cut tuition to compensate. Which means that teachers most likely won't get paid. I reached out to other parents (I'm very thankful for old people who don't know how to BCC on emails) and it looks like we have their backs. Everyone should be made whole on that front.
I think that local public schools will continue paying teachers. I asked our oldest's teacher and he said they were all going to be fine. I certainly hope so because his school doesn't have the number of high income people to step up.
Ours are officially (by state order) closed until the 15th of April. We'll see after that.
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@Benjamin-Hall are you still getting paid? Just curious. It's officially none of my business.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Benjamin-Hall are you still getting paid? Just curious. It's officially none of my business.
Yes. As a private school it's an already paid cost. Plus, we'll be doing online starting (prep work) next week. Our admin has also committed to paying hourly people their usual rates/hours even if not working. For which I'm grateful.
The real risk is next year. Private schools are strongly pro-cyclical as a luxury good for many people. Bad recessions hurt. And our contracts are one year at a time. But I'm leaving anyway (which is great timing............), so
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
But I'm leaving anyway (which is great timing............), so
Well, hopefully wherever you move to copes well or you could be just as fucked wherever you go.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@El_Heffe Elon can fornicate with his hat.
I don't remember seeing Elon wearing a hat.
I suggest a rocket instead.
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@blek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
About a thousand different people here had the idea to start making apps to connect people who need help with something with those who can spare time/material/whatever else. The problem is, there really is an absolute shitload of these now, and some of them seem to have a decent amount of volunteers ready to help, but they're fucking apps, the people who need help the most don't know they even exist, and even if they did, they have no way to access them.
Close Atom and go help your family and neighbors, you technology-obsessed autistic shitheads.
The one time when Facebook is actually useful...
Tangentially related:
I got a call from a church a couple of days ago. They need to make a form on their intenet page for sending prayer requests. (People usually come after the sunday sermon to ask the prayer circle to bring all kinds of stuff to God's attention. But no servcies now, because corona.) They asked if I can help.Wordpress and PHP are about as far from my area of expertise as you can get. And since kids are at home, I have no chance to concentrate on stuff after work. But since every corporate page has a "Contact Us" form, and I know those usually send the payload forward as mail, there just had to be a plug-in or two for that. So I sent them the first how-to -guide that google turned up, and told them I'd get on it during the weekend. The guide didn't require any actual coding, so I think they'll make the thing themselves before Saturday...
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@blek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Bulb Yeah, that's exactly what I mean, the policy has been in effect for several days already, they could have just changed it starting on Saturday, it wouldn't have made any significant difference, but nooo, they're just going to cause chaos for absolutely no reason...
Actually, reading the newspaper (yes, I still get that thing in the physical mailbox every morning) today it seems they changed it because most of the seniors came right after the opening hour anyway, and apparently when the cashiers asked them why they didn't come, many said they fear what the store will run out of what they want by then (which was common 31 years ago, in the smaller villages for bread and milk somewhat longer, but generally not any more, but old habits die hard). So they just made the actual state official.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
if sea levels rise by a few metres I can see us diking the Waddenzee, and partially draining it to pay for the project.
I almost tried to invoke error_bot and then I remembered that it's actually a what-if XKCD, not a regular one:
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Lotsa graphs:
That's exactly the kind of thing I wanted to see after the first one I got for France/Italy, thanks! I hope they'll keep the page up-to-date.
As you say these are just one (set of) graph and don't tell the whole story, but I feel they bring a nice time perspective that is missing in most of the "instantaneous" maps we get in the news.
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Good thing that you don't have to care too much about longetivity with facemasks...
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@El_Heffe said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Elon Musk
If you haven't seen it already, don't look at his Twitter account. Just⌠don't.
The only thing more infuriating than his daily egotistic rants is that he still makes positive headlines whenever he makes another vague, empty promise in a Tweet.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I almost tried to invoke error_bot and then I remembered that it's actually a what-if XKCD, not a regular one:
At this point:â
there wouldnât have been a Brexit because the British wouldnât have had their island mentality.
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Here in the Netherlands, the minister for health care and sports resigned yesterday, after he collapsed during a parliamentary debate about corona the day before. This is getting him a lot of sympathy, but my main thought is: if you canât handle the stress of a crisis situation, why were you a cabinet minister in the first place?
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
here wouldnât have been a Brexit because the British wouldnât have had their island mentality.
If "island mentality" was a thing, there would have been a Bye-celand or a I-Malta-Here by now.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My company hooks us up with a service where you can call a doctor and get a consult over the phone. It normally comes with a $40 copay but the company is covering that between now and June 4th.
That may not be accurate. Our health insurance has a similar program and now through June 4th the telemedicine company is foregoing all co-pays. My wife's employer doesn't have to cover any of it.
Not that they shouldn't be commended for the action, but they are also doing it in part to get people to try their service.
Well, that's what they said in the email. Same difference to users.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Seen on Facebook:
Some people aren't shaking hands because of the coronavirus. I'm not shaking hands because I don't know who's run out of toilet paper!
It reminds me of an elementary school "prank" that was very popular when I was a kid.
Ask a friend to shake hands and keep shaking hands.
You: hi, I'm Tarzan, what's your name?
Friend replies.
You: how old are you?
Friend replies.
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You: what do you use to clean your arse?
Friend almost certainly replies "toilet paper"
You: well, I use my right hand.
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@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just walked my daughter to "school" in her brother's room.
... ... ... Stop it, brain!
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My company hooks us up with a service where you can call a doctor and get a consult over the phone. It normally comes with a $40 copay but the company is covering that between now and June 4th.
That may not be accurate. Our health insurance has a similar program and now through June 4th the telemedicine company is foregoing all co-pays. My wife's employer doesn't have to cover any of it.
Not that they shouldn't be commended for the action, but they are also doing it in part to get people to try their service.
Well, that's what they said in the email. Same difference to users.
Now that I've "gone" to work...in the same email they mentioned various insurance plans waiving copays for stuff like testing, but they explicitly said that the company would be paying the telemedicine copays.
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According to
this paywalled article
says that a random village outside Venice had 50% of the infected completely without symptoms.
Also, that Daily Mail reports up to 86% without distinctive symptoms in China:
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A blogger I follow has been pointing out how this particular pandemic seems to have been spread early by fairly rich people due to stuff like skiing trips. For instance:
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Artists inspired by this lockdown:
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
fairly rich people [âŚ] skiing trips
Might be a cultural difference between central Europe and the US, but skiing trips are not a typical rich-people activity here in the Alps. Poorer families just use cheap equipment and go on day trips to smaller, cheaper skiing regions.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
fairly rich people [âŚ] skiing trips
Might be a cultural difference between central Europe and the US, but skiing trips are not a typical rich-people activity here in the Alps. Poorer families just use cheap equipment and go on day trips to smaller, cheaper skiing regions.
It's pretty common for middle class families to go on vacation to ski resorts in Europe. And it just so happens that we had a week of school vacation that is usually spent on ski resorts. Guess what happened a week after all those people came home?
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It's pretty common for middle class families to go on vacation to ski resorts in Europe.
That and even working-class families go skiing if they live close to a suitable mountain range. They just go on day trips or book a cheap cabin instead of going to a resort for a week.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It's pretty common for middle class families to go on vacation to ski resorts in Europe.
That and even lower-class families go skiing if they live close to a suitable mountain range. They just go on day trips or book a cheap cabin instead of going to a resort for a week.
Yeah, kindof the same in Sweden, except for the people living in the south. The mountains are a bit too far away, and this time of year the snow in the south often melted already. This year, they pretty much didn't have any snow to begin with.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@El_Heffe said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Elon Musk
If you haven't seen it already, don't look at his Twitter account. Just⌠don't.
The only thing more infuriating than his daily egotistic rants is that he still makes positive headlines whenever he makes another vague, empty promise in a Tweet.
I saw he made some vague, empty promise about how Tesla would make respirators if needed. I imagine the fan boys were fawning in adoration over that one.
The thing they don't realize is that we need them basically now. This isn't the early 1900's anymore where any place with mills and lathes can reset their Bridgeports and make some fixtures and start cranking out rifles. Retooling from Mass producing cars to medical equipment would take longer than the pandemic.
Instead of making empty promises (his M.O.), he could send his employees to a factory that actually does make them and have them trained up to work the night shifts there. Instead, the Sheriff had to pressure him to shutdown his factory in Alameda because he tried to argue that they were essential goods or something.
As usual he's just worried about his Twitter clout and stock price.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Seen on Facebook:
Some people aren't shaking hands because of the coronavirus. I'm not shaking hands because I don't know who's run out of toilet paper!
It reminds me of an elementary school "prank" that was very popular when I was a kid.
Ask a friend to shake hands and keep shaking hands.
You: hi, I'm Tarzan, what's your name?
Friend replies.
You: how old are you?
Friend replies.
...
You: what do you use to clean your arse?
Friend almost certainly replies "toilet paper"
You: well, I use my right hand.As teenagers we would so something similar. When you get back from the restroom and your hands are still damp from washing them and attempting to dry them with one of those weak, ineffective blow dryer things, you walk up behind someone and wipe your damp hands on the back of their neck.
"Don't you just hate it when you get piss all over your hands?"
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Now that I've "gone" to work...in the same email they mentioned various insurance plans waiving copays for stuff like testing, but they explicitly said that the company would be paying the telemedicine copays.
I used weasel words. I said "may not be".
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
As teenagers we would so something similar.
Um, yeah...as teenagers.