The Official Status Thread
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@Luhmann said in The Official Status Thread:
@error said in The Official Status Thread:
Tool concert tomorrow, but my date is AWOL.
Who cares? TOOL!
:thats_a_penis.webm:
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@Luhmann said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
:thats_a_penis.webm:
Well duh...
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Status: This API documentation sucks monkey balls.
https://www.vtiger.com/docs/rest-api-for-vtiger
For instance, it apparently expects you to send JSON content (i.e. in the
Revise
endpoint) as a FORM encoded parameter! A la:element=convert_into_json_string({id:record_id, field2:revalue2})
Yes, including the characters
convert_into_json_string
What the shit!
Edit: Wait, that's not even valid JSON to begin with anyways!
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Status: I appear to have gained a downvoter! Awww!
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@Tsaukpaetra his name is @Arteapkuast.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Fucking PHP. Is it an object, or array? Damnit, it wasn't the one I thought it was....
The problem arises when you're dealing with normal arrays and 'associative arrays', or hash tables with string keys. Dealing with generic JSON in php is Fun™.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: having the complete 7900 pages of ISO C++ standard embed in the funny stuff thread OOMs my phone. Thanks, I guess.
I REGRET NOTHING
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zerosquare I mean, I think the point of all functional languages is just to recreate lisp after all
In the same way the point of Java was to recreate C++.
But yes, F# is a good language. I'm happy that more and more of its features end up in C#.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Do you use DVDs still? Often enough that you want a built-in drive? That you would have to carry around the whole time? I'm particularly asking: would an external drive do?
It's only the ideal. I do have a USB DVD drive. Where it could go pear-shaped is if I have to reinstall or replace Windows 10 and the only option is from a DVD in a drive connected by USB.
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Do you use DVDs still? Often enough that you want a built-in drive? That you would have to carry around the whole time? I'm particularly asking: would an external drive do?
It's only the ideal. I do have a USB DVD drive. Where it could go pear-shaped's is if I have to reinstall or replace Windows 10 and the only option is from a DVD in a drive connected by USB.
I'm pretty sure you can use a USB stick for that. It may even be the default instruction (
to check)
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
The Windows license was the expensive part, really.
i must admit i have no idea how much windows costs these days..... i've been using the license keys from my work provided MSDN account for so long.... (only one machine, the others are either laptops that came with windows built in or run Linux, also for personal/non-professional use)
i really should just buy a license key of my own one of these years. specially since apparently windows 10 is the last version of windows that means i won't have to pay to upgrade.
In theory
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Do you use DVDs still? Often enough that you want a built-in drive? That you would have to carry around the whole time? I'm particularly asking: would an external drive do?
It's only the ideal. I do have a USB DVD drive. Where it could go pear-shaped is if I have to reinstall or replace Windows 10 and the only option is from a DVD in a drive connected by USB.
Modern computers have no problem installing Windows 10 by booting from a USB DVD drive. At this point, none of my computers have an integrated drive and I keep a USB DVD drive around for the rare case I need one
@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
The Windows license was the expensive part, really.
i must admit i have no idea how much windows costs these days..... i've been using the license keys from my work provided MSDN account for so long.... (only one machine, the others are either laptops that came with windows built in or run Linux, also for personal/non-professional use)
i really should just buy a license key of my own one of these years. specially since apparently windows 10 is the last version of windows that means i won't have to pay to upgrade.
In theory
An OEM pro license costs somewhere around $140 - 150 now.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
An OEM pro license costs somewhere around $140 - 150 now.
oooooh..... that's a lot.... i could get like five, six kilo of 3D printer filament for that... maybe seven or eight if i go with basic PLA from one of the cheap suppliers.....
hmm...... decisions.... decisions.......
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: having the complete 7900 pages of ISO C++ standard embed in the funny stuff thread OOMs my phone. Thanks, I guess.
Worse still, if you successfully open it you'd be reading the C++ standard
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@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
I decided to learn f#. I've now written a lisp interpreter
He wrote a Lisp interpreter, weren't you paying attention?
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@Vixen Just 3D print your own Windows! :science:
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@Vixen Just 3D print your own
Windowsfilament! :science:
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@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
i really should just buy a license key of my own one of these years. specially since apparently windows 10 is the last version of windows that means i won't have to pay to upgrade.
In theoryNot to upgrade windows, but yes to upgrade your hardware. I don't think they offer hardware-independent licenses anymore.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
i really should just buy a license key of my own one of these years. specially since apparently windows 10 is the last version of windows that means i won't have to pay to upgrade.
In theoryNot to upgrade windows, but yes to upgrade your hardware. I don't think they offer hardware-independent licenses anymore.
ah. right..... that would explain why i keep using the MSDN licences.......
ah well.... if i can sail the high seas to get anime what is not legally available for cash monies in my country i can do it to avoid paying for an operating system every year because i replace a RAM stick..... or plug a new keyboard in..... </hyperbole>
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@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
i really should just buy a license key of my own one of these years. specially since apparently windows 10 is the last version of windows that means i won't have to pay to upgrade.
In theoryNot to upgrade windows, but yes to upgrade your hardware. I don't think they offer hardware-independent licenses anymore.
ah. right..... that would explain why i keep using the MSDN licences.......
ah well.... if i can sail the high seas to get anime what is not legally available for cash monies in my country i can do it to avoid paying for an operating system every year because i replace a RAM stick..... or plug a new keyboard in..... </hyperbole>
I don't think the MSDN licenses are supposed to be used for general use either. I specifically seem to recall that at work we're not allowed to use productivity applications (office, browsers, etc) on MSDN-licensed windows installations.
I'm not sure microsoft cares for private use, since apparently unlicensed windows 10 can be used without limitations other than a screen overlay.
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@dkf I'm not too worried about this being a particularly "real" lisp, too be sure: I don't intend to properly implement basic types or lists other than the normal kind. We'll see about macros, if I keep at it. I'm sticking to the absolute minimum possible to do things.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@Vixen Just 3D print your own
Windowsfilament! :science:That's really easy if you get a 1.75mm nozzle, and you probably don't even need to turn on the hotend heat.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't think the MSDN licenses are supposed to be used for general use either.
they're not. hence the sailing of the high seas by using them in that manner. ;-P
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Status: Not a single time have I remembered that Python's trim function is called
strip
without looking it up.Well, at least it has one, unlike certain other languages that sooner implement
boyer_moore_searcher
thantrim
.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
strip
Was that a proposition?
if so then you have my curiosity. show me some dollah dollah bills and you might have my attention too.
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@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
strip
Was that a proposition?
if so then you have my curiosity. show me some dollah dollah bills and you might have my attention too.
/me goes eat some candy
want some too?
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
I specifically seem to recall that at work we're not allowed to use productivity applications (office, browsers, etc) on MSDN-licensed windows installations.
That might be something particular to your license. I remember when I had a bunch of MSDN Windows licenses from university, they were freely given to students for any use. They even offered MS Office on the same MSDN page, although that only started after I left.
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@PleegWat looks like
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat looks like
There's menthol! And anice! And it's not even black!
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat looks like
There's menthol! And anice! And it's not even black!
Anice.
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@PleegWat I just find it funny, even years later, that he made a domain just for this joke.
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Status: the felines are having a turf war over my home office
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That's a good "perk" filtering for American jobs there, StackOverflow. But you obviously know I'm searching in other countries, so you think you could adapt to things that are not already required by law there?
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@anonymous234 the website adapting to the users?
Heresy! The users shall adapt to the website!
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
Modern computers have no problem installing Windows 10 by booting from a USB DVD drive. At this point, none of my computers have an integrated drive and I keep a USB DVD drive around for the rare case I need one
What about Windows 7 Enterprise? I was told that there'd be some problem with USB drivers not working?
Most of these mini-PCs that I've seen are in the $500+ range with no OS, no RAM, no disks. I feel like such a pauper saying that. I remember laptops being ridiculously expensive years ago but I thought prices had fallen so it's surprising how many are still in the $1000+ range (for basically having low-end specs and no ports).
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
What about Windows 7 Enterprise? I was told that there'd be some problem with USB drivers not working?
If you use legacy boot and not UEFI, and you have USB 2.0 ports available, you should be fine. But if you plug the drive into a USB 3.0 port, the Windows 7 setup environment won't have the necessary drivers to read from disc once it's done booting.
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@mott555 Do boards typically have any way to make USB 3.0 ports act like USB 2.0 ports?
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@Zenith Not that I know of.
There are ways to sideload the necessary drivers into the setup environment, but it's a huge pain. I had to do that to load SATA drivers on some HP workstations that used a controller Windows 7 (and the setup environment) didn't understand, without which it couldn't read from the SATA DVD drive or find a hard disk to install to. The final decision (for a number of reasons) was "Don't buy HP workstations anymore."
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@anonymous234 Fewer than 10 vacation days? What is this, Japan?!
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I was told that there'd be some problem with USB drivers not working
On laptops and mini-PCs: forget about it. Run W7 in a VM.
On Intel Z170 Z370 (and B/H/C derivates) see below. However, on Z370 IGP doesn't have drivers.
On Z390: not worth it. Probably can be done, but IGP and USB 3.1+ doesn't have drivers.
There are some boards with USB 2.0 ports or at least a header.On AMD 3xx and 4xx - there are USB 2.0 ports and drivers.
On AMD 5xx - no drivers, but USB controller is made by Asmedia. Perhaps possible, but not worth it. Get 4xx instead.Last time I checked (1.5 y ago) W7 was unstable on Ryzen APUs, requiring AGESA fix. I'd not risk a bet it's changed for the better. Pure Ryzen CPUs work perfectly fine, however.
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 Do boards typically have any way to make USB 3.0 ports act like USB 2.0 ports?
Older desktop boards have an EHCI-XHCI toggle in UEFI. But you'll have to slipstream drivers in the image or have a PS/2 keyboard (and proper port; some still have) to load drivers.
You'll also have to make a fully updated image (or run your own WSUS), because Windows Update sniffs for "unsupported" hardware and will refuse to run if it finds any.
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
What about Windows 7 Enterprise?
i am disappoint that support for this extended into January so i can't quip about maybe using an operating system that was supported this decade at some point........
i mean i'm still going to quip, just not about that.
okay it's about that... but not in that way...
LOOK SNARK IS HARD OKAY?!
just.... you know get off my back..... i'm trying!
or if you are going to stay on my back you could at least massage my breasts while you're up there.... or pull my hair while you bone my tailpipe.... that would work too.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Light on work since yesterday, so I decided to learn f#. I've now written a lisp interpreter capable of doing basic arithmetic. I really like this language. The whole currying/partial application/first order functions thing is really allowing for some interesting simplifications, once I finally get it to compile.
Got any recommendations for tutorials? I've made a couple of attempts to learn it but never got far due to it being so different to other languages I'm familiar with
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@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
An OEM pro license costs somewhere around $140 - 150 now.
oooooh..... that's a lot.... i could get like five, six kilo of 3D printer filament for that... maybe seven or eight if i go with basic PLA from one of the cheap suppliers.....
hmm...... decisions.... decisions.......
Would that be enough to print 10 windows?
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@Jaloopa not exactly. I got started by trying to represent a set of mahjong tiles, with a function to form a deck from them, while looking at the "tour of f#" page on Microsoft's site. That was honestly enough to get me going. Modeling things and trying to do some basic actions will get you going imo.
Because apart from being almost painfully strongly typed, f# isn't that complicated to get started with. Parsing lisp was a new level of complexity, so I went for it.
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Status: Found an Asus mini-PC that fits the requirements for $500.
Now I just need to decide if I should risk it with a NewEgg 3rd party vendor or pay $150 more at Staples...
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@Magus just like any other language then, all I need is some sort of motivating project.
I'll add it to my backlog
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@Vixen said in The Official Status Thread:
show me some dollah dollah bills and you might have my attention too.