Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada
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@boomzilla the mention of Avalon makes me wonder if Josh Philips will get dug out that snowbank finally this year.
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Ha! Y'all just think you're cold. Oymyakon, Russia is currently -27°F (-33°C) with almost no wind (N at 0 mph (0 km/h)) and 46% humidity.
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@boomzilla said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
I may resemble that statement in a couple of weeks. (Anybody here in or around Vancouver?)
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@Tsaukpaetra At 30 below, that's not really all that much suspended water, in absolute terms.
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@djls45 said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@Tsaukpaetra At 30 below, that's not really all that much suspended water, in absolute terms.
Why even report it then? ;)
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@Tsaukpaetra Same reason I included the (lack of) wind. Google listed them all together. :P
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@djls45 said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@Tsaukpaetra Same reason I included the (lack of) wind. Google listed them all together. :P
Lack of wind would tend to indicate less wind chill, so it's more or less reasonable...
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@djls45 said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
-27°F (-33°C) with almost no wind (N at 0 mph (0 km/h)) and 46% humidity
"and 46% humidity"... relative (to the amount of water the air can hold) humidity. 46% of... pretty much nothing... is pretty much nothing. I'm kind of surprised they're even able to measure it at that temperature. I'd like to know what their error margins were...
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@anotherusername But what the body really notices is relative humidity. Trust me. I've been in -20C at ~100% relative humidity. It was miserable. Like "layer of ice forming on outer layers of clothing" and "piercing right through multiple layers" miserable.
I was wearing the following:
- Outer coat shell (plastic)
- Inner coat lining (some kind of thick synthetic material)
- Wool suit coat
- Long dress shirt
- thermal underwear
And still the breezes went right through me. The biggest help was probably the ушанака. Those are wonderful aids when it's that cold.
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@benjamin-hall ~100% relative humidity is water literally comes out of the air and attacks you, though. So that's going to be miserable at any temperature. Plus, your own body producing moisture makes it miserable in the layers near your skin. The moisture can't evaporate -- the air is too cold to carry it -- and even if it could, it'd result in you being that much colder due to the evaporation. Your only real option is to keep the inner layers warm enough that the moisture doesn't freeze.
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@anotherusername right. The point is that even though there's not much water in the air at those temperatures, it's the relative amount that we feel. And 40% is plenty high enough to make cold temps even worse.
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@anotherusername right. The point is that even though there's not much water in the air at those temperatures, it's the relative amount that we feel. And 40% is plenty high enough to make cold temps even worse.
And on the flipside, I found a couple years ago that "At least it's a dry heat" isn't just bullshit. I grew up by the ocean for most of my life and was used to 90-100% humidity. Took a summer road trip with best friend of mine for college, stopped in New Mexico when it was between 104-106 F. ... stepping out of the car, it felt like getting into an oven, but you know what? Felt all right, like I was a lizard and could just stretch out in it and feel good. Nowhere NEAR how bad the ocean summers felt even though they were probably ~10 F lower temperature.
I'm starting to think it's all about humidity.
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And in Florida news, I just got this from my HOA management company:
The National Weather Service has issued a Freeze Watch for the Tampa Bay Area. The watch begins late tonight through Thursday morning with temperatures that could drop into the 28-32-degree range. These conditions are very hazardous to pets and any sensitive plants you might have in your yard.
Oh Florida...
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
And in Florida news, I just got this from my HOA management company:
The National Weather Service has issued a Freeze Watch for the Tampa Bay Area. The watch begins late tonight through Thursday morning with temperatures that could drop into the 28-32-degree range. These conditions are very hazardous to pets and any sensitive plants you might have in your yard.
Oh Florida...
Toby Faire, that is cold enough to kill plants that aren't adapted to freezing temperatures.
Meanwhile, here in Utah, up in the mountains, where they put a guy on skis on the license plates... everything's been extremely mild. Go figure.
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
28-32-degree range
What are they complaining about? That is beach weather! Two days above 30°C and we'll call it a heath wave!
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@luhmann yes, you and your scientifically more convenient but less useful for human life units. This is 'MURICA!
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
less useful for human life units
doubtful since the right side of the pond has developed human life unites capable of using metric systems and expressing temperature in C without thinking about it twice.
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@luhmann yeah, but they're Canadian, so they don't really count
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@benjamin-hall I dunno man, I don't think they even know what poutine is in B■■■■■m
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Oh Florida...
Here in the Dallas area, apartment complexes put up "Freeze Warning" signs reminding tenants to turn on their furnaces so that pipes don't freeze.
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@antiquarian said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Oh Florida...
Here in the Dallas area, apartment complexes put up "Freeze Warning" signs reminding tenants to turn on their furnaces so that pipes don't freeze.
Heh.
On a related note, I had frost on my windshield this morning. It reminded me why I fled the frozen northern wastelands.
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@benjamin-hall
My new digs have a covered carport. I haven't had to deal with frost or snow on my windshield so far yet this winter.
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Don't laugh!
Just kidding, that's pretty funny.
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@luhmann said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Two days above 30°C and we'll call it a heath wave!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAON3e5w7Us
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I don't get why the typical reaction – well, a typical reaction at the least – to "It's so cold here! <temperature>" is "That's not cold; this is cold! <temperature there/where one was born/wherever else one may wish a comparison for some random reason>"
Some of the areas impacted by this winter storm have not had it this cold for this long in almost thirty years. It's objectively fucking cold there.
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@heterodox said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Some of the areas impacted by this winter storm have not had it this cold for this long in almost thirty years
Due to the CMB gradually spreading out and reducing, almost all of the Universe has never been this cold in 20 billion years. Also, 3K is far colder than whatever temperature you're talking about
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@jaloopa But if we can add only 1K to that, then just imagine the picture quality!
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@heterodox
Baaaack in my day, we had to walk to school uphill, both ways, in 5 foot drifts of snow, in temperatures that were twice as cold as this. And we didn't cancel like no stinking sissies just because there was a little bomb cyclone coming by. In fact, we called those bomb cyclones cool winter breezes. Impudent whippersnappers....
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
And 40% is plenty high enough to make cold temps even worse.
I think of 40% relative humidity as incredibly low.
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@izzion said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@heterodox
Baaaack in my day, we had to walk to school uphill, both ways, in 5 foot drifts of snow, in temperatures that were twice as cold as this. And we didn't cancel like no stinking sissies just because there was a little bomb cyclone coming by. In fact, we called those bomb cyclones cool winter breezes. Impudent whippersnappers....Hah! My daughter had a snow day yesterday. I never had any stinking snow days in Upstate NY...kids these days.
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@hungrier said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Usually by this time of year we'd already be buried and have started an undersnow society, but this year has been very warm for the season, and rainy.
You could really use some of that good old global warming.
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@bb36e Summer is back !
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@timebandit said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@bb36e Summer is back !
Here too (I even translated the temperature to Canadian):
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Winter's over for us. It was a nice three days this year.
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@benjamin-hall said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
Winter's over
It almost felt like winter yesterday...
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@heterodox said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
I'm starting to think it's all about humidity.
Which is why it's useful to use a temperature scale based on the freezing and boiling points of the thing that is humidity!
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Enjoy it while it lasts, eh, hosers!
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/04/canadian-environment-minister-predicts-ice-free-canada/
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@boomzilla TIL that boars were an invasive species in northern North America. I thought that given how sturdy they are, they would have spread everywhere the climate is tolerable for them (and would still be there unless hunted to extinction, like in the UK), but apparently not. A linked article (that also mentions pigloos) says they were very recently introduced in the northern parts, even though they've been in the southern parts of NA for centuries (the article saying "centuries" implies to me that they've also been introduced by humans rather than getting there naturally, although the article doesn't say. I could search further by myself but, well, you guessed, it... ).
Also, I just happened to have set an IR camera to watch over a horse dung heap, and caught a family of wild boars rummaging through it. I knew it had to be boars to dig through the heap so thoroughly, but it's still fun to have nice pictures of them.
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@remi said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
I knew it had to be boars to dig through the heap so thoroughly, but it's still fun to have nice pictures of them.
The fetish threads are etc.
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@lolwhat said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@remi said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
I knew it had to be boars to dig through the heap so thoroughly, but it's still fun to have nice pictures of them.
The fetish threads are etc.
Vixen's "warthog chair" is etc.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@lolwhat said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@remi said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
I knew it had to be boars to dig through the heap so thoroughly, but it's still fun to have nice pictures of them.
The fetish threads are etc.
Vixen's "warthog chair" is etc.
oi! is not my chair! @Puma makes it and sells it! I just mocked it!
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@Vixen Everything posted on WTDWTF becomes true and stays true.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Important announcement: It's snowing in Canada:
@Vixen Everything posted on WTDWTF becomes true and stays true.
So if I posted that I was president of the world it would become true?
...... That won't ever be abused...... nope.
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nope. impossible to abuse.