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@heterodox said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
But that's while booted, not during boot. The new paradigm assumes you have a working copy of Windows in order to get into the "oh no, Windows isn't working" mode, which is astoundingly ridiculous.
Now, that's not quite true. When Windows fails to start up a certain number of times, it's supposed to bounce itself into Startup Repair.
Does that work 100% of the time? No. But that doesn't mean there's a new paradigm.
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the perfect example of a paradigm shift.
Previous paradigm: the user knows when/how they need safe mode and manually instigates it without OS help.
New paradigm: the user doesn't have a clue. Let's hide that safe mode thing unless we detect something kinda-obviously wrong, and scoot them into a corner where they can't hurt themselves while we do some minimal automated work to try and fix things without their input.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
I thought maybe it was the USB hub I have them both plugged in to
That happens to me all the time. Unplug/plug and everything is happy again.
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@heterodox said in WTF Bites:
Does that work 100% of the time? No. But that doesn't mean there's a new paradigm.
It works about 3% of the time. The paradigm is retarded.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@heterodox said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
MS decided to remove the easy ways to get to safe mode from Win10
I mean, it is easy... when you have a working mouse and keyboard. (Hold down Shift when you click Restart from the lock screen or the Start Menu.)
Yeah, which is great...when you can get to said Start menu. Usually when I find myself needing safe mode the reason that I am needing it also prevents me from getting to the Start menu.
I also miss being able to do repair installs.
If you have a PC (or a sufficiently slow laptop), you can reset/power cycle early during boot (when the logo and spinning circles are on the screen). Two failed boots and the third time it starts in rescue mode, where you can select safe mode or a full reinstall or a bunch of other things.
They could've just put it under F8. But nooooo, let's make people suffer and risk corrupting the hard drive!
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So, I found out this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/devtest/bcdedit--set
bootmenupolicy [ Legacy | Standard ]
Defines the type of boot menu the system will use. ForWindows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 8 and Windows RT the default is Standard. For Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Server 2012, the default is Legacy. When Legacy is selected, the Advanced options menu (F8) is available. When Standard is selected, the boot menu appears but only under certain conditions: for example, if there is a startup failure, if you are booting up from a repair disk or installation media, if you have configured multiple boot entries, or if you manually configured the computer to use Advanced startup. When Standard is selected, the F8 key is ignored during boot. Windows 8 PCs start up quickly so there isn't enough time to press F8. For more information, see Windows Startup Settings (including safe mode).Everyone should probably do this on every Windows machine they own.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@TimeBandit I didn't even do that. He was on Discord lamenting about how he wished he could post here (no idea why he can't) because he wanted to help out @Captain with a coding issue he was having and blakey had an amazingly simple solution to his issue, so I took a screenshot and posted it in the relevant thread. I told blakey that I had done so, but I was not going to do it again because I am not going to be a walkie-talkie and he could just come back to the forums if he wanted to say anything else. Blakey then went off the handle and said that me saying I would not be his go between was me "threatening him".
He's like that. I alerted him that the front page of Googling for 'blakeyrat' had potential PII and he screamed at me for 'doxxing' him and then blocked me.
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They could've just put it under F8.
Let's put the blame where it belongs: all those idiots who put something on their keyboard during boot, accidentally press F8 and freak out
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I keep finding libraries that clearly have a lot of work put in, yet have virtually no documentation that tells me how to do anything. Like why are you even publicly developing that? No one can use it!
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@anonymous234 I took a peek, and I have no cloo what it does.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
virtually no documentation that tells me how to do anything
The job ain't done 'til the docs are done. Source code isn't a substitute. Tests aren't a substitute. You need those too.
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They could've just put it under F8.
Let's put the blame where it belongs: all those idiots who put something on their keyboard during boot, accidentally press F8 and freak out
As amusing as that thought is, the real people that are to blame are the ones who pushed for the absolute shortest boot time that is possible. That short wait that they put in the bootloader to give you time to hit F8 for recovery options had to go so now you have to do goofy shit to get to your recovery menu. Like:
If you have a PC (or a sufficiently slow laptop), you can reset/power cycle early during boot (when the logo and spinning circles are on the screen). Two failed boots and the third time it starts in rescue mode, where you can select safe mode or a full reinstall or a bunch of other things.
Which of course is a good way to:
risk corrupting the hard drive
all for shorter boot times. Even the one second they could have put in for the recovery menu wait had to go.
I think Lenovo started all this shit. IIRC, they started the arms race when they did away with BIOS/EFI options wait in their standard boot process.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
I keep finding libraries that clearly have a lot of work put in, yet have virtually no documentation that tells me how to do anything. Like why are you even publicly developing that? No one can use it!
TFW you have over 500 commits and more releases than stars on GitHub.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
I think Lenovo started all this shit. IIRC, they started the arms race when they did away with BIOS/EFI options wait in their standard boot process.
Ah yes, it was fun to enter the UEFI setup the first time I got my Lenovo laptop.
To enter the setup you need to press the button inside of one of those pinholes guarding against accidental activation, but it's so damn narrow that a standard paperclip won't even fit. (EDIT: Had to look for one of those tiny paperclips which use a different gauge of wire or one of those things which you need to use to pop open an iPhone sim card tray)
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@Zecc If you want to know, it's a OpenCL library for .NET. I've been researching GPU acceleration for it (mostly as a hobby), but all libraries I tried have at least one of those problems:
- Only compiles to CUDA, so it won't run on AMD (or will it? I'm not sure actually).
- Haven't had any commits since 2013
- Zero documentation
Conclusion: I'll stick to OpenCL-through-Pinvoke for now.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
virtually no documentation that tells me how to do anything
The job ain't done 'til the docs are done. Source code isn't a substitute. Tests aren't a substitute. You need those too.
:that_developer:: Of course the source code is good enough! That's what intellisense is for!
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Fuck I hate when a major product (mumble QUICKEN!) has a regression. I have a 2 monitor system (who doesn't nowadays?). I always ran QW on the 2nd. Now after closing it there, it restarts on the primary monitor. At 1/2 size - because high DPI is fucking hard. (primary: normal 100%, 2ndary: 4K 200%)
Edit: This just happened with the most recent update they pushed - R19.44. R18.<something> worked fine.
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Fuck I hate when a major product (mumble QUICKEN!) has a regression. I have a 2 monitor system (who doesn't nowadays?). I always ran QW on the 2nd. Now after closing it there, it restarts on the primary monitor. At 1/2 size - because high DPI is fucking hard. (primary: normal 100%, 2ndary: 4K 200%)
Edit: This just happened with the most recent update they pushed - R19.44. R18.<something> worked fine.
Someone probably went "what is all this hacky shit that's trying to get the actual dimensions of the window during save?!? Don't they know they can just do window.size and use that?" and reverted all the code that handles DPI to pixels conversion because Windows API takes pixels but reports in not-really-pixels.
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@Tsaukpaetra I don't think they're tweaking pixels at all:
"does saved rect fit on primary monitor"
no
"move rect to primary"So no DPI adjustment at all. They just ignore other monitors now.
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@Tsaukpaetra I don't think they're tweaking pixels at all:
"does saved rect fit on primary monitor"
no
"move rect to primary"So no DPI adjustment at all. They just ignore other monitors now.
Science must be done!
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Science must be done!
No
But.... I need.... To know....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Science must be done!
No
But.... I need.... To know....
Nothing good has ever come from that!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
But.... I need.... To know....
Just get drunk, you'll forget about it
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One of my users just changed machines. And complained that after reinstalling my program it wouldn't open their data file. They installed the v1.5.3.10 from Jun 5 2005. Where the hell did they even find that?!? Current version is now 3.3.2 and there have been nearly 100 releases since then!
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CPU spikes when a zoomed-in Windows Photo Viewer window dares touch the edge of a screen. I don't know what it's doing, but dllhost.exe instantly climbs to 25% CPU usage when it happens (my CPU is quad-core).
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One of my users just changed machines. And complained that after reinstalling my program it wouldn't open their data file. They installed the v1.5.3.10 from Jun 5 2005. Where the hell did they even find that?!? Current version is now 3.3.2 and there have been nearly 100 releases since then!
Could be worse. I expected the story to end with "the file is on the old machine!"
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One of my users just changed machines. And complained that after reinstalling my program it wouldn't open their data file. They installed the v1.5.3.10 from Jun 5 2005. Where the hell did they even find that?!? Current version is now 3.3.2 and there have been nearly 100 releases since then!
Could be worse. I expected the story to end with "the file is on the old machine!"
I have had that.... Sometimes auto-opening the last file makes the user think it's a magic database in the cloud. Even tho I do not auto-save meaning they're prompted to save the file.
Evidently, they had that old version in their backup images. Guess that must be the version they started with - auto updates did the rest... (so not quite as WTFery as expected)
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This doesn't look quite right:
Does it still work though?
Guess not
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
changed the measurement units from meters to feet
Well you certainly picked the right thread for this.
Exactly. Who in their right mind would be using meters?
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
changed the measurement units from meters to feet
Well you certainly picked the right thread for this.
Exactly. Who in their right mind would be using meters?
Yeah. Real men use seconds!
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User submits ticket this morning. Says internet is down entirely. We send someone over immediately. Large office, lots of users, big impact so a high priority.
Turns out user managed to disconnect himself from wifi. User is one of the most technologically illiterate people we have ever run across.
TRWTF: This user also has among his primary job duties such things as running CNC plasma cutters and routers, 3D printers, CNC metal brakes, etc. He works in prototyping.
Either he is totally shit at his job or we have some weird idiot savant of CNC going on here.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
CNC plasma cutters and routers
Is that a CNC router? Or is he actually responsible for CNC stuff as well as for internet routers?
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@topspin A Layer 3 router that is configured by CNC belongs over in the Evil Ideas thread.
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A Layer 3 router that is configured by CNC
Just imagine the G-Code. -shudders-
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
But.... I need.... To know....
Just get drunk, you'll forget about it
The only options available to him are sleep-drunk or punch-drunk, because, yano, teetotaler...
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
A Layer 3 router that is configured by CNC
Just imagine the G-Code. -shudders-
G28 X0 Z0
Balls! I've just smashed an /8 off the corner of my network
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Guess what this advertisement advertises.
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In one tab is an icon correctly notifying me I have 2 new
PMs. In the other tab? These.
Both open the same chat in its own dialog, although only one shows my reply and it's not the one I replied from.
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Guess what this advertisement advertises.
Fat reduction? Adjustable gastric band?
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Guess what this advertisement advertises.
Antacids?
Cannibalism 101: How to properly prepare a roast.
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@Gąska A kilt which does not slip down even when fat?
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Guess what this advertisement advertises.
Fat reduction?
That was fast.
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Guess what this advertisement advertises.
Fat reduction?
That was fast.
You know, I specifically avoided saying that on the premise that you implied it was not obvious. Jerk....
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Well, airflow won't be much of a problem...
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glances over at his workstation that has a tangle of PCI Express ribbon cables running to a card sitting out in the open on the desk because it doesn't fit inside the case...
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I call Amazon with a question.
-thick indian accent- "Thanks to you for calling Amazon today, this is Elsa, how may I be assisting you today?"
Elsa?
Don't get me wrong, I get it, we Americans have a really hard time understanding or pronouncing Indian names. I still roll my eyes every time I hear the names.
I once read an article that Indian callcenter people have fun with picking out their names. They pick ones from pop culture. Burt (Reynolds), Clint (Eastwood), John (Wayne, among others), etc. I presume this woman watched Frozen before she chose hers.
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