WTF Bites
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I’m not sure who’s to blame here. Either Samsung for shipping something ...
Always.
or Google for needlessly breaking compatibility ...
also_yes.mp4
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@topspin
Given how those networks are being named? I could see it.Also, could be the 5GHz and the 2.4GHz APs off of the same router, depending on your iOS version and settings.
iOS is up-to-date.
The laptop only sees the network once. Selecting the "other" network on the phone failed to authenticate with "wrong password". Hmm...
Turning the router off made "both" of the networks disappear, so it's definitely not the neighbors. Either the phone or the router was drunk.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
I’m not sure who’s to blame here. Either Samsung for shipping something ...
Always.
I mean, yeah, in a perfect world Samsung wouldn't ship anything.
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@topspin
Yeah, so your router is broadcasting both 5GHz and 2.4GHz with the same SSID, but without "band steering", so your phone reports them as two separate networks (the lower signal strength one is likely, but not certainly, the 5GHz AP).If the router can be reconfigured for "band steering", your phone will be instructed to prefer the 5GHz AP if available and will only report one AP. Of course, band steering isn't a common feature for residential routers, and given the router naming pattern, I suspect that your router is your ISP's cable/DSL modem all-in-one anyway, which almost certainly isn't going to have that feature
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@izzion It doesn’t show up like this anymore now that I’ve restarted it, though. I’m not even sure the router‘s got the 5GHz band at all, but I’m too lazy to go look right now. Anyways, have never seen it before like that, so I assume one of the devices (phone or router) had some hiccup.
I assume the iPhone shouldn’t be too dumb to work with both bands at the same time!?
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@topspin
Dual-band APs (and clients) generally only connect to one band at a time, except for the very newest of the new standard (WiFi 5 I think they're calling it these days?) which theoretically allows for using channel space out of both bands. For most 802.11n or ac gear (WiFi 3 or 4), the standard is that the AP specifies either that the clients should prefer one band (generally 5GHz), or the AP broadcasts separate beacons for both APs and lets the client pick. In the latter case, the usual configuration convention is to give them different SSIDs so the clients can tell, but for ye olde cheap ISP all-in-one routers, it's hit or miss whether they add -2.4 and -5 to the SSIDs or just broadcast both APs on the same SSID.
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@izzion Well, it’s definitely a cheap old ISP router, I’ve just never seen that behavior before now. It’s set to use 802.11 b/g/n, so apparently no ac. Not sure if that’s using the 5GHz band.
Whatever, it seems to work now.
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just broadcast both APs on the same SSID.
Yes, mine does this - and the iPhone just handles this by only showing the network once. Same as my laptop does.
This is just a glitch, I've seen mine do this briefly before.
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@anonymous234 I remember reading somewhere that runescape will always be a mess because so much of the UI code is copy-pasted, much like dwarf fortress
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@bb36e they've rewritten everything from scratch like three times already.
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@bb36e If only they could afford a systematic refactor of their code...
But who cares about profit 5 years from now when there's profit to be had now.
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@anonymous234 it's not like they have to worry about their userbase suddenly abandoning them in large numbers...
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From the "It's just an Easter Egg, what could possibly go wrong?" department…
Ant Design is a design language comes with a set of React component open sourced by Alibaba’s Ant Finance. One can assume its popularity by looking at its 38837+ stargazers on Github.
Just 4 minutes passed the midnight of the Christmas Day, Beijing Time, an issue on the Ant Design Github repo started the wave of outcries from developers who had Ant Design in their dependencies on their production environment, and suddenly found out there were snow on top of their UI buttons, and also changed their titles to “Ho ho ho”.
This “Christmas Egg” was introduced at commit 00aebeb, from one of the main maintainer of the repo. And the author actually left a comment in the commit, quoted “No need to show this in the changelog”.
In fact, back in November, more than a month before this Christmas Egg activates, it was already spotted by a developer who created an issue on Github. It was responded by another maintainer of Ant Design with a proposed workaround by overriding the CSS.
This issue became heated with comments after many developers troubled by the behaviour of the Christmas Egg on the Christmas Day in their production environments.
Someone claims they have lost their job because of it. Someone also claims being fired as their employer’s clients are state-run institutions in China. The timing is sensitive and unfortunate as local governments in China are cracking down Christmas celebrations.
The Ant Design team have pinned two issues about the Christmas Egg and its workaround, in Chinese and in English.
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@DCoder I think they're more upset that someone is revealing to everyone that their products rely on unchecked foreign code that could go rogue at any time than about the snow.
Also he said the magic words THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS” so legally he can do whatever he wants. Sucks to be on the other side huh?
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@anonymous234 do you diff the source code of new library versions before you upgrade them, or do you just look at the changelogs and update JARs/etc? Because the latter would not have prevented this
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@anonymous234 do you diff the source code of new library versions before you upgrade them, or do you just look at the changelogs and update JARs/etc? Because the latter would not have prevented this
Bigger question, do you suck down other people's work for free? The amount of due diligence implied, it is very large.
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Status: Initiating an RMA request to replace this ADATA SSD that went into Read Only mode after only a month.
They said "Fill out the form".
The form? A .docx file with the following:
Man, it's a good thing we're in the 21st century where things like filling out forms still requires hand manipulating documents that will obviously be hand-manipulated and passed around like stone tablets.
Shoutouts for making PDF and Acrobat two different things...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
documents that will obviously be hand-manipulated and passed around like stone tablets.
Nah, if they printed it out and put it on a wooden table, they would allow hand-written forms and PDFs.
Given that this is a .docx file, I bet they're using Word macros to process the data.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
documents that will obviously be hand-manipulated and passed around like stone tablets.
Nah, if they printed it out and put it on a wooden table, they would allow hand-written forms and PDFs.
Given that this is a .docx file, I bet they're using Word macros to process the data.Ha! I should have altered it and added invisible markers everywhere to see if they would still accept it, despite being completely incomprehensible from a program's perspective...
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@Tsaukpaetra I wonder what would happen for the crowd that would be required to import it into Google Docs and export it out again (and insist that it's much better)
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Damn. I accidentally clicked on submit, and less than 5 seconds later, two persons have already replied (and @Tsaukpaetra has upvoted the empty post).
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Ha! I should have altered it and added invisible markers everywhere to see if they would still accept it, despite being completely incomprehensible from a program's perspective...
You feel the RMA process isn't painful enough yet?
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Damn. I accidentally clicked on submit, and less than 5 seconds later, two persons have already replied (and @Tsaukpaetra has upvoted the empty post).
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Ha! I should have altered it and added invisible markers everywhere to see if they would still accept it, despite being completely incomprehensible from a program's perspective...
You feel the RMA process isn't painful enough yet?
I decided that, if pain and unnecessary difficulty should be inflicted on myself, I might as well take effort to introduce pain and difficulty into their systems on principle.
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wtfbites
Patreon's profile page.
As You Know, Bob-- one of the benefits offered by some creators on Patreon is that they will display your name, or read it (depending on the format). So coming up with a "joke" name every month is a fun thing to do.
I never did that (mainly because I didn't support anyone at that level until recently). Now I do did done it. And fucking Patreon's idiot web code monkeys.
- There is a character limit. It doesn't tell you WHAT that character limit is. Or if you exceeded it. Not while you're typing. Not after you submit the form and get "success" message.
- Patreon will cut off your name beyond the character limit. But when you submit the form, your "name" field retains the existing value-- not the value Patreon saved. So you might have typed in "Really Long Name", and you see "Really Long Name"-- but in actuality you are "Really Long Na". Unless you refresh the page, you'd never know.
- You aren't allowed special characters. Which, insert the "what programmers done know about names" link here. But even beyond the weird characters, they don't allow the double-quote. Which is a big fuck you to anyone who uses a nickname. I hope Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson gives them a piledriver.
- And on top of that, the error is just "You are not allowed special characters in your name". They don't tell you which character in your name violated this rule. They don't even give you the whitelist of a-z space and dots or whatever it is.
And yes, this whole thing is a GIANT canary in the shitmine that is the Patreon website.
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My Windows 10 start menu. I keep it very minimalist:
For reference, this is how it looks like when I'm dragging an icon (well, "tile", but they're still icons):
It works as you would expect for all icons except the Edge one. For some reason, when I drag the Edge icon, it freaks out completely:
Half the icons stay "lit" and the other half get disabled. It's always the same programs, even if I move their positions. It happens every single time, and it persists even afterI drop the tile and close and reopen the menu (until I drag a different icon). If I actually try to drop the Edge icon somewhere else, it either does nothing or it crashes the menu. It's really bizarre.
While I was doing tests I crashed the menu, and when I opened it again I had somehow duplicated the Edge tile. I couldn't figure out how to remove just one, so I tried to unpin it, but it removed both. I re-pinned Edge again and now the bug has disappeared.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
I re-pinned Edge again and now the bug has disappeared.
Ah. So the usual turn-it-off-turn-it-on trick worked. As usual (sometimes).
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
documents that will obviously be hand-manipulated and passed around like stone tablets.
Nah, if they printed it out and put it on a wooden table, they would allow hand-written forms and PDFs.
Given that this is a .docx file, I bet they're using Word macros to process the data.Ha! I should have altered it and added invisible markers everywhere to see if they would still accept it, despite being completely incomprehensible from a program's perspective...
I think an active payload triggered when processed by a macro is only fair.
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Apparently the only way to agree to these terms is to log in with something? Why?
Thank goodness for HTML inspectors, I suppose.
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Apparently Windows Photo Viewer (at least on Windows 7) becomes crippled the moment something zoomed greater than 100% touches two monitors. Especially when zooming in significantly.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
documents that will obviously be hand-manipulated and passed around like stone tablets.
Nah, if they printed it out and put it on a wooden table, they would allow hand-written forms and PDFs.
Given that this is a .docx file, I bet they're using Word macros to process the data.Ha! I should have altered it and added invisible markers everywhere to see if they would still accept it, despite being completely incomprehensible from a program's perspective...
Just your luck that would totally screw up the macro and it'd irreparably corrupt their
databaseWord document containing the details for all the open/closed RMAs, which of course they wouldn't have backed up anywhere, and then they would accuse you of hacking their computer.
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Apparently the only way to agree to these terms is to log in with something? Why?
Thank goodness for HTML inspectors, I suppose.
I mean, there's also options for "I Have a Quora Account" and "Sign Up With Email". I'd assume that by continuing to those options you're agreeing to the terms also.
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@anotherusername those options don't dismiss the dialog, just replace it with two equally-odd alternatives:
Not a WTF: how nodeBB so effortlessly handles copying and pasting images :)
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@kazitor why are those "odd"? One's the login form and the other is the registration form.
Or was your original complaint that the links to Terms of Service and Privacy Policy don't work unless you're logged in? That would be a WTF, but it doesn't come through in your post.
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@anotherusername The WTF is that it is impossible to agree to the terms and continue reading the site without logging in. There's not even an "agree now but pester me next session."
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@kazitor oh. Yeah, it's strange that the homepage doesn't have anything except a login form.
If you land directly on a question page, you don't have that problem. Maybe they assumed that people will just google their questions and end up on Quora. I did find that after I clicked "About", that page had a search box to look for questions/answers without logging in.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
For some reason, when I drag the Edge icon, it freaks out completely:
It's worried you're going to get your "stickies" on it, pervert.
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What the fuck, HP.
Just identify yourself as
an Apache attack helicoptera printer so Windows can install your drivers properly.Bonus after a quick google search:
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@DCoder Hehe, you obviously have no clue what you're doing! Stop claiming you're doing the impossible!
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No shit!
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What the fuck, HP.
Just identify yourself as
an Apache attack helicoptera printer so Windows can install your drivers properly.Or a
USB Wireless Keyboardtoaster.
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@anotherusername The WTF is that it is impossible to agree to the terms and continue reading the site without logging in. There's not even an "agree now but pester me next session."
Nah, the WTF is that a 13yo can't legally agree to anything online, even if they claim they're older?
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Nah, the WTF is that a 13yo can't legally agree to anything online, even if they claim they're older?
Yet a 14yo can?
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@anotherusername The WTF is that it is impossible to agree to the terms and continue reading the site without logging in. There's not even an "agree now but pester me next session."
Technically, there is. If you continue but not log in, you can't use the site, but you still agree to everything ToS say and they can do anything they want with your data.
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Nah, the WTF is that a 13yo can't legally agree to anything online, even if they claim they're older?
Yet a 14yo can?
In some jurisdictions, yes.
Edit: though it's much more common for 13 years to be the required age for legally binding agreements.
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@Gąska
In the US, at least, any legal agreement entered by someone under the age of 18 is fully revocable by the minor at any time for any reason. The 13 year old cutoff is special in the US because of the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, which requires additional consent from a parent or guardian before a website can collect personal information from a user under the age of 13.
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@izzion in Poland, the law treats children under 13 and children over 13 differently. It's hard for me to find exact details right now due to how it's spread over a dozen different legal acts, but generally, children over 13 can make "common agreements made in everyday life", while children under 13... well, it's best described as a grey area where technically it's illegal but in case it's done anyway, it becomes legal afterwards in most cases.
