Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times
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So I install nodejs and there is an option to install chocolatey and i somehow did not opt out and then installed nodejs. A PS Script kept running and kept rebooting the system, ran again, and this is the best part, I go out and come back make dinner and this shit is still on a reboot cycle. It's been more than an hour since start of installation at this point. I figured it would reboot a few times but what the fuck? So I google and this comes up.
Node v11.0 windows installation opting into chocolatey+boxstarter results in infinite reboots · Issue #23838 · nodejs/node
Version: v11.0 Platform: Windows 7 Subsystem: Apologies if this is the wrong place to report this. But I just tried the windows installer for Node v11.0. There was an option to install build-toolin...
What the fuck? The Nodejs installer is unstable? Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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Oh yes. This one is on me for trying to install nodejs in the first place.
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Oh now i have to go find and clean up all the shit left behind from this half assed install. oh my fucking god just kill me already.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
What the fuck? The Nodejs installer is unstable? Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Can anyone really be surprised?
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I've updated Intel GPU driver yesterday. After the new version installed, it asked for reboot. After reboot, I was met with the installer window again. Pretty standard for driver installation, though it looked suspiciously similar to the previous one. So after I clicked through it and it installed again, it asked for another reboot. After this second reboot, I was met with the installer window again. That's when I realized someone fucked up and it wasn't supposed to run after reboot after all.
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Isn't this normal?
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@Gąska said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
So after I clicked through it and it installed again, it asked for another reboot. After this second reboot, I was met with the installer window again. That's when I realized someone fucked up and it wasn't supposed to run after reboot after all.
Windows users are well trained
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@TimeBandit explains why Linux users have all sorts of problems with their computers all the time
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@Gąska Yes, like when an update deleted my personal files.
Oh wait...
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Oh now i have to go find and clean up all the shit left behind from this half assed install.
format c:
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@Kian said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Can anyone really be surprised?
In hindsight, it's probably my mistake for wanting to install nodejs in the first place. I'm TRWTF.
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@Gąska It asked you for reboot. In my case a PS window kept popping up did some stuff and rebooted on its own.
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@dcon said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
format c:
No. It would have to be a manual job. The one time I tried reinstalling windows It took days to find the right drivers and all that crap.
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@Gąska said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
explains why Linux users have all sorts of problems with their computers all the time
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@mott555 What's with the hammer looking more beat up than the HDD? Looks like there is a story here.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@mott555 What's with the hammer looking more beat up than the HDD? Looks like there is a story here.
He tried to install NodeJS multiple times
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@TimeBandit It looks like there is a slightly disfigured vagina on the hammer too. WTF.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@TimeBandit It looks like there is a slightly disfigured vagina on the hammer too. WTF.
It's a fucked up situation
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This thread is taking all sorts of unexpected turns jeez!
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
This thread is taking all sorts of unexpected turns jeez!
We're only 20 replies in. Just wait...
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@stillwater Martian lizard-people propaganda!
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@Magus That sounds like the title of a Chinese martial arts film…
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@dcon said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
This thread is taking all sorts of unexpected turns jeez!
We're only 20 replies in. Just wait...
So it's already taken 20 replies more than normal.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
What the fuck? The Nodejs installer is unstable? Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Maybe someone removed the
no-rebootmodule fromnpm?
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I browsed the posts a bit. Apparently it also disables UAC (temporarily I hope, but more realistically, probably not so temporarily). Sounds like great software, totally reasonable.
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@cvi said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
I browsed the posts a bit. Apparently it also disables UAC (temporarily I hope, but more realistically, probably not so temporarily). Sounds like great software, totally reasonable.
Later on (perhaps in a separate bug report; I was browsing around a bit too) they said the underlying scripting stuff (boxstarter, I think) was supposed to put the UAC setting back to what it was when the installation started once the install finishes. Hard to do that when you have to break out of a reboot loop.
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@Parody said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@cvi said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
I browsed the posts a bit. Apparently it also disables UAC (temporarily I hope, but more realistically, probably not so temporarily). Sounds like great software, totally reasonable.
Later on (perhaps in a separate bug report; I was browsing around a bit too) they said the underlying scripting stuff (boxstarter, I think) was supposed to put the UAC setting back to what it was when the installation started once the install finishes. Hard to do that when you have to break out of a reboot loop.
Yeah, disabling UAC is somewhat reasonable if you take into account that boxstarter is meant to install lots of software the first time you get a machine and let it do its work unattended. If it would keep UAC on then after first reboot it would require somebody to click on the UAC prompt again.
The real WTF is that NodeJS casually added this software in their installer, and then managed to include a package which triggers the reboot loop (though boxstarter could have been smarter not to keep retrying package installs).
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@JBert said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Yeah, disabling UAC is somewhat reasonable if you take into account that boxstarter is meant to install lots of software the first time you get a machine and let it do its work unattended. If it would keep UAC on then after first reboot it would require somebody to click on the UAC prompt again.
I'd rather click the prompt again than have software turn it off.
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@dkf said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@Magus That sounds like the title of a Chinese martial arts film…
There’s one that’s close:
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@JBert said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
If it would keep UAC on then after first reboot it would require somebody to click on the UAC prompt again.
Not that familiar with UAC's internals, but once you have elevated privileges, shouldn't you be able to (temporarily) register a process that is launched with elevated privileges on boot? That would seem way less fishy than flat-out disabling UAC, (even temporarily).
(Assuming you can't finish installing everything in one go and then reboot at the end.)
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@Parody said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Later on (perhaps in a separate bug report; I was browsing around a bit too) they said the underlying scripting stuff (boxstarter, I think) was supposed to put the UAC setting back to what it was when the installation started once the install finishes.
Yup. Disabled the UAC and had to enable it again. Also turns off automatic windows updates along the way.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Also turns off automatic windows updates
Do they stay off if you subsequently uninstall Node? Asking for a friend.
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@M_Adams said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@dkf said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@Magus That sounds like the title of a Chinese martial arts film…
There’s one that’s close:
Was this before or after Cowboys and Aliens?
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@HardwareGeek From what I know, if you let the nodejs installation fuckery complete, it turns UAC and windows updates back on. Since it was an infinite loop that was broken, both of them stayed off.
Uninstalling nodejs does not fuck with the windows updates settings.
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@masonwheeler Around the same time looks like. In all seriousness, this looks like it would be a much better movie than Cowboys and Aliens. Cowboys and Aliens was really boring, to say the least.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Also turns off automatic windows updates along the way.
So what you're saying is that it was totally worth it.
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@Deadfast Except completely fucking up my nodejs installation. random errors being thrown all over the place.
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Unrelated rant but why the fuck is the nodejs ecosystem so fucked up. there are random errors being thrown everywhere and stuff keeps hanging fucking nodejs piece of shit
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
completely fucking up my nodejs
You're still listing positives.
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@Deadfast said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
completely fucking up my nodejs
You're still listing positives.
Touche!
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Unrelated rant but why the fuck is the nodejs ecosystem so fucked up.
NodeJS is made by people who thought "Javascript is such a great language, we should use it everywhere!".
Do I need to explain further?
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@cvi said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@JBert said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
If it would keep UAC on then after first reboot it would require somebody to click on the UAC prompt again.
Not that familiar with UAC's internals, but once you have elevated privileges, shouldn't you be able to (temporarily) register a process that is launched with elevated privileges on boot? That would seem way less fishy than flat-out disabling UAC, (even temporarily).
(Assuming you can't finish installing everything in one go and then reboot at the end.)
The guy who originally developed boxstarter explained that it was either disabling UAC or using the Task Scheduler hack to automatically get the highest elevation after login. However, through Task Scheduler your process would then be in the background, and some installers want access to the desktop of the current interactive desktop (Windows allows "invisible" desktops to be created, but obviously some operations will fail) because they were never made to be run unattended.
Finally I've once read about a process where you can take MIcrosoft's "compatibility SDK" and somehow get a program trusted by Windows to be auto-elevated, but it took several steps and a particular signing certificate. Anyway, either it would open a persistent security hole bigger than just temporarily disabling UAC (mostly because you wouldn't even think of where to check for it) or it would simply not work.
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@Zerosquare said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
Unrelated rant but why the fuck is the nodejs ecosystem so fucked up.
NodeJS is made by people who thought "Javascript is such a great language, we should use it everywhere!".
I've found JS to be kind of fun to use in small doses. I'm sure my opinion would change with the dosage.
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@Zerosquare said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
NodeJS is made by people who thought "Javascript is
such a great languagethe only language we know, we should use it everywhere!".FTFY
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@boomzilla said in [Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation >
I've found JS to be kind of fun to use in small doses. I'm sure my opinion would change with the dosage.
Not surprising. Plenty of poisons also have useful effects, if you keep the doses really really low.
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@Zerosquare said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@boomzilla said in [Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation >
I've found JS to be kind of fun to use in small doses. I'm sure my opinion would change with the dosage.
Not surprising. Plenty of poisons also have useful effects, if you keep the doses really really low.
Like cyanide for example. (disclaimer, metformin is not cyanide, please don't take small doses of cyanide)
Forget the Blood of Teens. This Pill Promises to Extend Life for a Nickel a Pop
The more researchers learn about metformin, the more it seems like a medieval wonder drug that could extend lifespans in the 21st century.
If metformin shut down the oxygen reactions completely, it would be deadly—that’s how cyanide works. But the drug merely interferes with one stage of the multistage process by which the energy from nutrients makes its way to oxygen. Michael Pollak, a cancer researcher at McGill University who has studied metformin, compares it to water that’s sprinkled on flames—the fire slows down but doesn’t get extinguished.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@mott555 What's with the hammer looking more beat up than the HDD? Looks like there is a story here.
The hammer solved the "problem" of many stupid users before taking on that HDD.
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@dangeRuss said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
(disclaimer, metformin is not cyanide, please don't take small doses of cyanide)
JFC now they're hawking metformin as a miracle drug to the
stupidrich?I'm sure diabetics will be SUPER HAPPY when there's first a shortage of that drug, then a massive price increase.
@Michael Pollak, a cancer researcher at McGill University who has studied metformin said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
water that’s sprinkled on flames—the fire slows down but doesn’t get extinguished.
Or if it's an grease fire, it speeds up. Or if it's an electrical fire, it kills you. Or the water droplets are so small they evaporate before touching the fire's fuel, and have zero effect. Or the sprinkles of water are coming from a sprinkler, and the fire is fucking OUT.
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@stillwater said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
@dcon said in Hmmmmm - part 52819 Nodejs installation reboots pc 51023 times:
format c:
No. It would have to be a manual job. The one time I tried reinstalling windows It took days to find the right drivers and all that crap.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this, too, is on you, in this case for not saving all those drivers somewhere useful.
Sorry.
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