Reactions
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- Would this forum benefit from "reactions"?
- Would you prefer a Discord-style "emoji" reaction system or a Community Server "filed under" custom implementation?
- Should this replace voting on posts or exist alongside it?
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I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
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@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
- Would this forum benefit from "reactions"?
- Would you prefer a Discord-style "emoji" reaction system or a Community Server "filed under" custom implementation?
- Should this replace voting on posts or exist alongside it?
- I think it might, but then again knowing this forum it's entirely likely to be a new avenue to abuse posting, people, or the system in general until something breaks.
- Yes
- Either. The voting here is relatively pointless, but then again this would be as well.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.Only if we can have a tag cloud.
And it doesn't load a fucking list of every tag ever on every page load, requiring a purge of all the punchlines on a regular basis.I look forward to "tsaukpaetrareadthis".
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Filed Under: We need a new tag cloud to attack!
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.To clarify your clarification, if I remember correctly only the poster could tag their own post. I don't think "tsaukpaetrareadthis" would have worked.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.To clarify your clarification, if I remember correctly only the poster could tag their own post. I don't think "tsaukpaetrareadthis" would have worked.
Yes, that's the one thing I want to change about CS's implementation.
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- No, but we should do it anyway
- Discord style
- Alongside
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- Yes.
- Emoji, but forum emoji and avatar emoji should be applicable too.
- Replace. There should be and buttons for easy access, and existing upvotes or downvotes should be converted into those.
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@pie_flavor said in Reactions:
There should be and buttons for easy access
I would give a lot more downvotes than now.
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- Yes, I would sometimes like to have options other than up/down.
- Emoji.
- Replace.
Ideally, the emoji voting system could extend the built-in voting system: an extra "neutral" vote type could be added, and then the list of emojis could be sorted into those three main subgroups -- "up", "down", and "neutral" -- for reputation/post scoring purposes. Then in addition to the field that says whether the vote is up, down, or neutral, a new emoji ID field could be added to indicate what the emoji was, and the votes could be grouped and counted by emoji for display. Existing votes could be converted to an appropriate pair of emojis,
such as and. edit: oh, I like @pie_flavor's emojis.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.People who are privy to this joke can (and sometimes) already do this by typing "Filed under: ..." under their post.
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@anotherusername said in Reactions:
- Yes, I would sometimes like to have options other than up/down.
- Emoji.
- Replace.
Ideally, the emoji voting system could extend the built-in voting system: an extra "neutral" vote type could be added, and then the list of emojis could be sorted into those three main subgroups -- "up", "down", and "neutral" -- for reputation/post scoring purposes. Then in addition to the field that says whether the vote is up, down, or neutral, a new emoji ID field could be added to indicate what the emoji was, and the votes could be grouped and counted by emoji for display. Existing votes could be converted to an appropriate pair of emojis,
such as and. edit: oh, I like @pie_flavor's emojis.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
- Would this forum benefit from "reactions"?
I don't like reactions in general. When Facebook added it, I've found that the reactions are a little arbitrary. For instance, someone posts a rage article about setting a kitten on fire has the same angry reaction to someone who posts that kittens should be set on fire. One reaction is to the post at hand while the other is at the post itself. The two have very different connotations. The votes are more clear that they are directed at the poster.
- Would you prefer a Discord-style "emoji" reaction system or a Community Server "filed under" custom implementation?
Filed under would maximize the potential for trolling, hurt feelings, and tons of abuse. Therefore, I fully support that.
- Should this replace voting on posts or exist alongside it?
If we replace voting, then we'll have to remove the "reputation" metric for the reason I outlined above: "Angry" reactions can't necessarily be tied to a negative reaction to the posters themselves. And, of course, it'd be completely meaningless for "filed under" if we went that route.
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We should add a button labelled "Tsaukpaetra saw that"
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And it doesn't load a fucking list of every tag ever on every page load, requiring a purge of all the punchlines on a regular basis.
I believe it got loaded multiple times, in fact.
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@The_Quiet_One We have a reputation metric?
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@Weng ... So we so.
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Also, the voting system should be optional. Users should be able to choose whether they want to see:
- Full emoji voting system
- Upvote/downvote system
- No voting system at all
In the full emoji voting system (default), the emoji reactions should show on the post, and the voters popup should show who left each emoji reaction.
Users who choose to use the upvote/downvote system should see it exactly as it looks now. The post score would be displayed based on
(up reaction count) - (down reaction count)
, and the "who voted" popup could display upvoters, downvoters, and neutral voters. Clicking the upvote or downvote button would leave a vote which people using the full emoji system would see as an appropriate reaction emoji (customizable?), but as far as the person leaving the vote would be concerned, it'd just be up or down.Users who chose to use no voting system would not see the voting system at all. Everything related to the voting system -- voting buttons, reactions/scores on posts, and reputations on user cards/profiles -- would be completely hidden.
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@TimeBandit said in Reactions:
We should add a button labelled "Tsaukpaetra saw that"
We could just add a emoji that he could use.
(Unless we want to go full-blown crazy and make the
:@_:
avatar emojis work in the reactions section too.)
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This forum has quite a few epitomic members, so we could have them as reactions.
'This post got five FOXes, 2 BLAKEYRATs and a TIMEBANDIT.'
No idea how to use the user images.
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@coldandtired said in Reactions:
This forum has quite a few epitomic members, so we could have them as reactions.
'This post got five FOXes, 2 BLAKEYRATs and a TIMEBANDIT.'
No idea how to use the user images.
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@The_Quiet_One said in Reactions:
@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
- Would this forum benefit from "reactions"?
I don't like reactions in general. When Facebook added it, I've found that the reactions are a little arbitrary. For instance, someone posts a rage article about setting a kitten on fire has the same angry reaction to someone who posts that kittens should be set on fire.
This has more to do with Facebook's policy not to let users easily express disapproval than with reactions in general.
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@anotherusername said in Reactions:
(Unless we want to go full-blown crazy and make the :@_: avatar emojis work in the reactions section too.)
I mentioned that that should be the case. I would get a lot of mileage out of .
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@Tsaukpaetra :open_book_with_hr_giger_artwork:
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@Tsaukpaetra :open_book_with_hr_giger_artwork:
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@TimeBandit
And allow everybody to randomly change the state ...
And notify @Tsaukpaetra about all changes
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@pie_flavor said in Reactions:
@anotherusername said in Reactions:
(Unless we want to go full-blown crazy and make the :@_: avatar emojis work in the reactions section too.)
I mentioned that that should be the case. I would get a lot of mileage out of .
If the "emoji type" field is a VARCHAR(255) then there's no reason that we couldn't. Just store the emoji's name, which in this case would be
@blakeyrat
.Oh brother, it's blue. Did someone break the regexp that makes sure that mentions don't get parsed inside of markdown code blocks again?
@ben_lubar
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@anotherusername It'd have to be, since there's no way we're leaving out forum emoji like and .
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@pie_flavor And
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@anotherusername said in Reactions:
People who are privy to this joke can (and sometimes) already do this by typing "Filed under: ..." under their post.
That’s harder to make display random tags like some people used to.
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I'm not a fan of Reactions. If implemented, it might as well replace voting, I suppose.
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1 - More abuse? Sure.
2 - Discord style
3 - Alongside (won't somebody please think of the T/1000)
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@TimeBandit said in Reactions:
We should add a button labelled "Tsaukpaetra saw that"
By my count this has been the third time this has been suggested.
My count is probably incomplete.
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@anotherusername said in Reactions:
@coldandtired said in Reactions:
This forum has quite a few epitomic members, so we could have them as reactions.
'This post got five FOXes, 2 BLAKEYRATs and a TIMEBANDIT.'
No idea how to use the user images.
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Ah, you were just helping with the markdown. With regards to voting I was expecting "view raw" to uncover something along the lines of:
5x chaotic evil
2x chaotic neutral
1x neutral good
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something along the lines of:
5x chaotic evil
2x chaotic neutral
1x neutral goodI would interpret a post marked 5×, 2×, 1× as
5x batshit insane
2x off-topic / ambiguous
1x blame Windows
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@coldandtired Isn't that what I said?!
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@pie_flavor And
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@ben_lubar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.On CS, tags were useless if they contained a space.
Much like all the rest of CS.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.this idea, I like, I am much too lazy to insert an hr and styling myself.
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@ben_lubar said in Reactions:
@marczellm said in Reactions:
I'd prefer no reactions, but then I'd prefer no voting as well. It is meaningless to me and I never look at votes.
To clarify the idea for anyone who wasn't on Community Server,
Filed under
was a system that allowed users to tag individual posts with arbitrarily named categories. The tags showed up after the user's signature and were frequently used for hiding punchlines of jokes.this idea, I like, I am much too lazy to insert an hr and styling myself.
What?
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By my count this has been the third time this has been suggested.
Also this @Tsaukpaetra guy liked all references to it so I guess it is a go!
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By my count this has been the third time this has been suggested.
Also this @Tsaukpaetra guy liked all references to it so I guess it is a go!
I'm @Tsaukpaetra and I approve this message.