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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.
Have you sources to cite?
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.
Have you sources to cite?
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.
You also cannot prove the non-existance of the IPU. Or that you're not an idiot sometimes. By this logic we can throw all science and common sense out of the window.
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If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Who's to say... why, are you volunteering? Because it is you. Along with the rest of the scientific community. It's called peer review.
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@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Who's to say... why, are you volunteering? Because it is you. Along with the rest of the scientific community. It's called peer review.
You might do well to remember that this is about homeschooling.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.
Have you sources to cite?
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.
You also cannot prove the non-existance of the IPU. Or that you're not an idiot sometimes. By this logic we can throw all science and common sense out of the window.
The thing you are not getting is that it's not about what you believe happened in the past, but what you predict will happen in the future. If you predict that God's hand will move the cart out of the way of the wooden block, you shouldn't be doing science. But someone who believes the earth was created specifically to fit some scientific model is perfectly capable of doing science because they also believe in the usefulness of the model.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.
Have you sources to cite?
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.
You also cannot prove the non-existance of the IPU. Or that you're not an idiot sometimes. By this logic we can throw all science and common sense out of the window.
The thing you are not getting is that it's not about what you believe happened in the past, but what you predict will happen in the future. If you predict that God's hand will move the cart out of the way of the wooden block, you shouldn't be doing science. But someone who believes the earth was created specifically to fit some scientific model is perfectly capable of doing science because they also believe in the usefulness of the model.
That's not what his particular type of Creationism is about, though...
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.
Have you sources to cite?
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.
You also cannot prove the non-existance of the IPU. Or that you're not an idiot sometimes. By this logic we can throw all science and common sense out of the window.
The thing you are not getting is that it's not about what you believe happened in the past, but what you predict will happen in the future. If you predict that God's hand will move the cart out of the way of the wooden block, you shouldn't be doing science. But someone who believes the earth was created specifically to fit some scientific model is perfectly capable of doing science because they also believe in the usefulness of the model.
That's not what his particular type of Creationism is about, though...
Evolution exists. It happens. You can see it in wolf -> dog, you can see it in what Darwin discovered. Just because you don't believe that it's what led to where stuff is right now doesn't mean that you can't believe it'll dictate where stuff goes in the future.
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So what is the WTF Bite here? That people are conversing with Pie_Flavor expecting him to not be an idiot?
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@pie_flavor I just found another problem with your view, though:
What if, for whatever reason and through whatever means, there has been found a major flaw with the Theory of Evolution?
The foundation of your belief has just been shaken.
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@pie_flavor I just found another problem with your view, though:
What if, for whatever reason and through whatever means, there has been found a major flaw with the Theory of Evolution?
The foundation of your belief has just been shaken.
Then clearly that flaw has always been the case, yes? And therefore applies to the past? And therefore the past fits the correct model? And therefore the past was created to fit the correct model? What part of 'you cannot disprove the existence of God' do you not get?
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@pie_flavor It's still not what Young Earth Creationism is about. Because those actually twist facts.
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Look I was too subtle before. Could you dickwads not let Pie_Flavor ruin EVERY thread maybe? He's a moron, JUST. STOP. REPLYING.
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@blakeyrat You seem to be of the opinion that I started this discussion. This is consistent with your typical nature of being wrong most of the time.
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"Oh, he's a brilliant surgeon! He just has this urge sometimes to butcher someone!" How far would you trust that surgeon?
I would! He clearly knows his way around meat!
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@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?
Who's to say... why, are you volunteering? Because it is you. Along with the rest of the scientific community. It's called peer review.
You might do well to remember that this is about homeschooling.
No, it's about WTF Bites, but nobody's had the warthog to Jeff it out when it's not.
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Status: You spat out literally everything except the thing I actually need...
I'm assuming some kind of database timeout error, but who knows??!?!?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: You spat out literally everything except the thing I actually need...
I'm assuming some kind of database timeout error, but who knows??!?!?
WARNING: the request was processed successfully
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Why was I able to do this on literally every other quote wizard then? Whatever...
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
So what is the WTF Bite here?
That nobody's asked for this to be Jeffed to the Garage yet?
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@dkf I think I saw someone asking the mods for a jeffing like yesterday. But, you know,
and all... And now they got even more posts to move, meaning more work and more !
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@Atazhaia I would volunteer, but who knows what unforseen consequences my modship would bring...
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@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
Historically speaking, many of the scientific breakthroughs on which modern science is founded have been made by creationists.
They didn't know better. Now we do. We're not living in the 18th or 19th century anymore.
Ironically, many of the 21st century people fell in the same trap as creationists, and see their somewhat-plausible-but-not-entirely-proven theory of purely random mutations leading to intelligent life as the ultimate truth and won't even consider any alternative hypotheses.
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@Tsaukpaetra Did you mask half your target URL in 2 out of 3 occurrences?
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@Gąska Okay, one last reply: You do realize that we have witnessed both micro- and macro-evolution? And that, before we had gene manipulation, pretty much all of the seed manipulation techniques for plants relied on using radioactivity to induce random mutations to get a beneficial and usable mutation?
And that the timescales involved are massive?
Didn't think so.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Why was I able to do this on literally every other quote wizard then? Whatever...
Yeah, that seems really low. Structures are expensive. I have 2 million GBP on my public liability insurance.
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@Gąska Okay, one last reply: You do realize that we have witnessed both micro- and macro-evolution?
Have I ever said anything that denies it?
And that, before we had gene manipulation, pretty much all of the seed manipulation techniques for plants relied on using radioactivity to induce random mutations to get a beneficial and usable mutation?
But the selection process wasn't random at all. Unlike natural selection, which while not completely random, is still very much random.
And that the timescales involved are massive?
And?
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And in reality the selection process also isn't random but subject to a certain rule. You may have heard of it? "Survival of the fittest "?
It means that a beneficial mutation will be selected for. Just like... gasp ... we're doing! Only that there's no consciousness behind the selection. It's a form of self-organization, similar to the complex behaviour of a flock of birds which is governed by only 3 simple rules.
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It means that a beneficial mutation will be selected for.
Only on average. Random shit still happens all the time. The selection process is merely statistical in its operation, not deterministic. (I know you know this.)
The point is that if there is a heritable genetic variation that happens to increase the number of viable offspring occur relative to the background level, the number of examples of that variation will tend to increase over time and the relative number of the other genetic variations will therefore decrease. The evolutionary notion of fitness doesn't include any moral component at all; whatever works works, no matter how nice or horrible it is. This has been observed many times. That this can lead to the wide complexity of life we see today over a vast amount of time, that's pretty amazing even to people who understand all the details. Reality is amazing; we don't need to invent extra things to make that true, but rather just lift our eyes out of the ruts of our everyday lives.
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@dkf Yes, I should have made clear that I wasn't about an individual example but more about the statistical outcome. I mean, you can still have a better-adapted sheep which promptly gets eaten by a wolf.
That's where the "massive timescale" comes into play.
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As I said - you don't even allow yourself to consider a different possibility.
And in reality the selection process also isn't random but subject to a certain rule. You may have heard of it? "Survival of the fittest "?
Look at how many different species have become "the fittest". That's nothing like what humans do with selective breeding. This shows how much more random the natural selection is. Also, look how quickly the species that change their environment (by moving or by external factors) attain new traits that makes them fare better in the new environment.
I'm not saying it's definitely a fully guided process. I'm saying there is a possibility that it might be a partially guided process - by which I mean it wasn't conclusively ruled out. Probably it will never be confirmed or denied, but it's not enough to say with absolute certainty that this hypothesis is totally wrong. Remember that for the most of 19th century, waves propagating in vacuum were deemed impossible too.
It means that a beneficial mutation will be selected for. Just like... gasp ... we're doing! Only that there's no consciousness behind the selection.
That we don't know. As long as we don't reproduce the results of evolution of even simplest bacteria in the simplest ways using a statistical model of DNA mutations, we won't be able to tell if the pure random theory is actually correct.
It's a form of self-organization, similar to the complex behaviour of a flock of birds which is governed by only 3 simple rules.
Except we don't even know what these rules are. Yes, we have a vague idea that genes sometimes mutate randomly on recombination, and that some of them die and the rest pass their genes to their offsprings - but we don't have a model of the entire process from start to finish that we can validate with predictions (even statistical predictions that give more than one outcome, each with some level of probability). Until then, the science of evolution is very much not settled.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
So what is the WTF Bite here?
That nobody's asked for this to be Jeffed to the Garage yet?
Nope, that's not it.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
Nope, that's not it.
So it has been asked but the request was eaten by a warthog?
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Except we don't even know what these rules are.
Yes, we do.
Shows what you know.
And, please, not this "Oh, but in the umpteenth century ago, we didn't know that..." shit again. Jesus Christ. But please, continue to demonstrate your willful ignorance. I won't bother with you anymore.
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So it has been asked but the request was
eatenkneeled upon by a warthog?FTFY
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Hmmm
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Okay, one last reply:
I counted 3 replies after Rhywden's "one last reply." What a fucking liar. An easily-trolled liar.
But hey, finally a WTF Bite.
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Except we don't even know what these rules are.
Yes, we do.
Not these rules.
Seriously, for someone who claims to have obtained ultimate knowledge about the history of entire life, you're absolutely awful at reading comprehension.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@boomzilla Well that distracts from me being wrong on my second point. MS documentation does say "log on". And frequently "logon" as one word. Only third-party docs say "log in". Huh.
Yeah, Microsoft is (or was) fond of using "log on" et "log off". For some reason however, they have moved away from the latter, replacing it with "sign out".
I guess "log off" didn't look enough like "shut down"...ಠ_ಠ
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Look at how many different species have become "the fittest". That's nothing like what humans do with selective breeding. This shows how much more random the natural selection is. Also, look how quickly the species that change their environment (by moving or by external factors) attain new traits that makes them fare better in the new environment.
An ex was an Evolutionary Developmental Biologist, they love to talk about how it's really 'survival of the survivors'. Positive adaption may confer a statistical advantage overall, but survival is really the only criteria.
Human selective breeding generally removes the 'luck' element by introducing an external force: don't fit what we're looking for and you get culled. That can get you very different outcomes even though you're still using the same process.
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This turned up on one of the Slack boards at work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9kmosl/yasssferatu/
Edit: Onebox doesn't show the whole height of the video
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Overseen in an e-mail from Azure:
You’ve reached the daily cap for your app’s telemetry data
Data for {your app} has hit the 0.0323 GB daily cap. The collection of your app's telemetry data will be stopped until October 2, 2018 19:00 UTC.
Recommended action: Go to the Azure Portal and follow these instructions to increase the cap. Then, you’ll resume data collection and avoid missing valuable application telemetry data in the future.
If only there was some system to convert between different units of measure to provide numbers that are reasonably readable while still maintaining appropriate precision
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Onebox doesn't show the whole height of the video
Failure saves my sanity yet another day
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Failure saves my sanity yet another day
That day was a couple years ago?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
That day was a couple
yearsdecades ago?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
"Sent from my
iPhoneBurner Phone"Oh, you have a Galaxy Note 7?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Why was I able to do this on literally every other quote wizard then? Whatever...
Out of curiosity, is car insurance mandatory in the US?
Because that seems like an awfully low amount, especially considering that in the US bodily injury would easily get an order of magnitude higher for trivial things like spilled coffee.My car insurance is, if I'm reading it correctly, capped at €5million.
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Out of curiosity, is car insurance mandatory in the US?
It is if you operate on public roads. It's not uncommon to see uninsured farm trucks though, if they never leave your property.
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Out of curiosity, is car insurance mandatory in the US?
It is if you operate on public roads. It's not uncommon to see uninsured farm trucks though, if they never leave your property.
Same here. I was just wondering if it's mandatory there must be some minimum liability cap, which I had expected to be much higher.
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Minimum car insurance requirements by state - Insure.com
Learn about the minimum car insurance requirements by state. Learn about the minimum state standards and determine how much insurance you need in your state.
Minimums are in the realm of $25k/50k in most states, some slightly lower, some slightly higher.
Most insurance companies will recommend 100/300 for the average non-teenaged driver.
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