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@boner said in Internet of shit:
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Pff. Real solution are artificial babies, of course.
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@boner said in Internet of shit:
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Power source on a baby. They should get Samsung to manufacture it.
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@boner My dad came up with a similar idea 50+ years ago when I was a baby. It wasn't "smart" or internet-enabled, of course; it just measured electrical conductivity. I'm not sure if he ever tried to actually implement his idea, though, and he certainly didn't patent it.
It also didn't attempt to distinguish between liquid and solid waste. Because who cares? Liquid or solid or both — whatever; it still needs to be changed.
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@boner I just wonder what kind of parent doesn't notice the diaper is full.
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@gąska the male kind.
/me sees himself out
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@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
it just measured electrical conductivity.
Mine expanded on that, and provided a small electrical current for self-indication for those that are potty training.
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@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
you can't turn WiFi off
Sure you can:
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@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
My dad came up with a similar idea 50+ years ago when I was a baby.
I'm not sure if he ever tried to actually implement his idea, thoughTo be fair, a lot of "inventions" are like this, many people could have had the idea, and maybe many people actually did, but most people didn't do anything about it. The real inventors are not necessarily very smart people (sometimes they need to be dumb enough to believe their ideas will actually work...), but people who actually do something with their ideas.
Not that these smart nappies seem a very, well, smart idea.
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@remi said in Internet of shit:
sometimes they need to be dumb enough to believe their ideas will actually work...
“I have no use for people who have learned the limits of the possible.”
—Leonard of Quirm.
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@gurth I believe a number of Leonardo da Vinci's inventions where older ideas which didn't work, which he improved using the then-latest technology, only to conclude 'nope, still doesn't work'.
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Speaking of shit, why does everything have to be the "World's most X" in almost literally every single campaign?
Something tells me the second one must not be HD...
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@tsaukpaetra What does it mean for wireless earbuds to be "interactive"? It has a volume slider on the cord? Oh wait, they're wireless. Hm.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@pleegwat said in Internet of shit:
only to conclude 'nope, still doesn't work yet'.
FTFV
I think combustion engines enabled a couple?
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
Based on the picture I thought that it was a bulky (probably wifi-connected) pencil sharpener...
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One of the coffee machines in our office has a Bluetooth logo on the front. Nobody has figured out how to connect to it or what you can actually do so far, but it has Bluetooth. It makes shitty coffee, though. I'm inclined to believe that the person who purchased it was some idiot PHB who drinks tea himself.
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@blakeyrat said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra What does it mean for wireless earbuds to be "interactive"? It has a volume slider on the cord? Oh wait, they're wireless. Hm.
I wondered that, but not enough to care until you posted. So then I looked it up and now I have to go wash off the indiegogo. But anyway, I think it's this (their emphasis removed, mine added):
TicPods Free's intuitive touch controls let you activate all your favorite features with just a touch on the stem so you can slide volume up and down, take or end calls, skip songs, and activate your voice assistant - all without spending more time on your phone screen.
In more detail:
Slide up and down to adjust volume
Double tap to answer a call, end a call, or skip a song
Long press to reject a call or activate the voice assistant.That actually seems fairly reasonable, although it seems to me getting the right volume level might be tricky; you don't have a lot of space to work with and fingers are not precision instruments.
It also seems to me that for answering or ending a call, and I guess the voice assistant, you'll need to have your phone out anyway so this probably doesn't add a lot of value for those functions.
One thing that would bug me if I had these:
In-ear detection allows TicPods Free to know when you’re listening. Music pauses when you take one earbud out and resumes when you put it back in.
If I take one earbud out, it's generally so I can briefly interact with people while continuing to listen to my music in the other ear. If I don't want to hear the music I'll take both earbuds out or, you know, stop the music player.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Internet of shit:
it seems to me getting the right volume level might be tricky; you don't have a lot of space to work with and fingers are not precision instruments.
I haven't looked on the page, but unless the stems are really tiny it shouldn't be a problem to get it close enough.
@scarlet_manuka said in Internet of shit:
It also seems to me that for answering or ending a call, and I guess the voice assistant, you'll need to have your phone out anyway so this probably doesn't add a lot of value for those functions.
These are standard features on headsets (except the normal, non-"most interactive" ones use buttons), and you don't need to take out the phone for most of them. The exception might be if the voice assistant returned something where you'd need to look at the screen, but if your question is "Siri what's the weather in Shanghai?" it would say the answer in the headset.
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@hungrier This isn't a headset, though; there's no microphone as far as I can see. So wouldn't you need the phone out to do anything that involved talking?
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@scarlet_manuka I'm guessing that there's a pinhole for the mic in one of the earbuds. Otherwise it'd be pretty shit compared to every other competing product.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Internet of shit:
just a touch on the stem
Sounds like they're encouraging Oo-mox....
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
@scarlet_manuka I'm guessing that there's a pinhole for the mic in one of the earbuds. Otherwise it'd be pretty shit compared to every other competing product.
Well, who says it's not? But OK, that makes sense. I freely admit I know little about the wireless earbud market, since I'm quite happy to stick to wired ones that don't require charging.
I did have another look at the page and couldn't see any mention of microphone function anywhere on it, but the demo video does show people appearing to control stuff via voice without any additional hardware, so you are probably correct.
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@scarlet_manuka It is curious that they don't mention it specifically anywhere on the page, but I don't think they could justify the voice control and phone call features (or the price) otherwise.
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@hungrier Wait, you need to justify features on IoS products now? When did this happen?
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@scarlet_manuka said in Internet of shit:
When did this happen?
Well, "World's best" might be losing its strength soon, have to hedge your bets someone might actually read.
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@tsaukpaetra Pretty sure people who actually read aren't the target market for most of these campaigns.
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Alexander Reben has a knack for identifying malevolent potential in things that might otherwise appear mundane.
I think it's a stretch to call building a gun-firing robot "identifying malevolent potential" in the device. You could identify the same malevolent potential in a remote controlled toy car or a wall outlet.
e:
“War has changed,” noted another.
The "memes are news" thread is
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
I think it's a stretch to call building a gun-firing robot "identifying malevolent potential" in the device.
I don't know, I can see their point but I can also see your point. I do not see anything inherently malevolent in guns, or possibly even a robot that fires a gun (with the exception that I would never, ever, fucking ever trust the code in someone's homebuilt contraption like that and I likely wouldn't even trust a commercial example). The way I took it though was this guy was wanting to show just how easy it would be to murder someone with a Google Assistant command. He used a gun because it would garner media attention. You could just as easily hook that outlet to an igniter on a pipe bomb or a bath mat with wires snaked through it or something else.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
The way I took it though was this guy was wanting to show just how easy it would be to murder someone with a Google Assistant command. He used a gun because it would garner media attention. You could just as easily hook that outlet to an igniter on a pipe bomb or a bath mat with wires snaked through it or something else.
Sure, but the Google Assistant is trivially replaceable by almost anything else, from a remote control, a switch to (if you want to be fancy) some old-school speech recognition. I don't see why this couldn't have been done almost as easily a decade or two ago (Vista shipped a decade ago and already had -perhaps less reliable- speech recognition, and they weren't exactly the first to support that).
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
I don't see why this couldn't have been done almost as easily a decade or two ago
It could have been. But, I believe, Google Assistant and other such devices would allow you to do it remotely over the internet. I don't have any of this rubbish because I don't see the point, but my understanding is that if I wanted to for some reason I could turn on the lights at my house from a hotel in San Francisco if I wanted to.
Regardless, you are correct that this is just a viral stunt.
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
I don't see why this couldn't have been done almost as easily a decade or two ago (Vista shipped a decade ago and already had -perhaps less reliable- speech recognition)
It could replace it easily
Windows Vista Speech Recognition – 01:34
— jplfree
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
I don't see why this couldn't have been done almost as easily a decade or two ago
It was
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
You could just as easily hook that outlet to an igniter on a pipe bomb or a bath mat with wires snaked through it or something else.
Posh, people have been doing that with burner phones since before they were called burner phones...
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
Sure, but the Google Assistant is trivially replaceable by almost anything else, from a remote control, a switch to (if you want to be fancy) some old-school speech recognition.
$15 burner phone from 7-11. Hook your bomb up to the ringer.
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@blakeyrat said in Internet of shit:
@cvi said in Internet of shit:
Sure, but the Google Assistant is trivially replaceable by almost anything else, from a remote control, a switch to (if you want to be fancy) some old-school speech recognition.
$15 burner phone from 7-11. Hook your bomb up to the ringer.
Yes, maybe. You would probably need to run that to a MOSFET or transistor to trigger something that could provide the necessary wattage to do what you want. I doubt the ringer circuit has enough power to do much of anything.
This is so easy that your average idiot consumer could pull it off.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
This is so easy that your average idiot consumer could pull it off.
So easier than setting the time on a VCR?
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@boomzilla said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
This is so easy that your average idiot consumer could pull it off.
So easier than setting the time on a VCR?
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@boomzilla said in Internet of shit:
So easier than setting the time on a VCR?
The clock radio in my kitchen is flashing 12:00. I gave up setting it after power outages. (main reason - it sits in a corner where I don't see the display)
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@dcon said in Internet of shit:
The clock radio in my kitchen is flashing 12:00
The time on my alarm clock is flashing 8:88
Good, I only get up at 9:00
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@blakeyrat said in Internet of shit:
$15 burner phone from 7-11. Hook your bomb up to the ringer.
I guess the 2018 clueless hipster version of this is that you tape your burner phone from 7-11 to the google assistant, call it up, and tell (via the phone) the google assistant that it should trigger the device.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
MOSFET or transistor
A MOSFET is a transistor — Metal-Oxide-Semiconductor Field Effect Transistor. MOS describes the way it's constructed, and FE describes the way it works. /
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
hipster version
No, that procedure doesn't involve enough Twitter/Instagram/whatever the latest stupid social site is.
#BombsAway
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@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
No, that procedure doesn't involve enough Twitter/Instagram/whatever the latest stupid social site is.
Obviously I wasn't suggesting you'd use an actual telephone call. You can do that via snapchat, or better yet, whatsapp (since leaving a trail of the message at only one big international company would be silly).
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
No, that procedure doesn't involve enough Twitter/Instagram/whatever the latest stupid social site is.
Obviously I wasn't suggesting you'd use an actual telephone call. You can do that via snapchat, or better yet, whatsapp (since leaving a trail of the message at only one big international company would be silly).
OMG can you imagine?
Get a dozen phones, hook them up to an app that receives notifications. Set Do Not Disturb for a while (so you can set everything up and test), then let it fall back to Vibrate mode once emplaced. Tweet at a hashtag (or whatever) and BOOM! Simultaneous (ish) trigger!
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@tsaukpaetra (This is anonymous right?) So my plan if I ever wanted to Alla Ackbar is I'd buy a dozen burner phones and get ahold of enough explosives to build six smallish bombs, wiring the burner phones to the bombs. Then it's road trip time.
Grab a copy of Google Maps, rent a Home Depot pickup and drive around the country to find the most remote high-tension power lines, those ones that are inspected maybe once a week by a guy in a pickup truck. Hide the bomb well-inside the concrete foundation of one or two of the corners.
Once you've planted them all, get on the freeway. Call your first burner phone (from another burner phone). Wipe it clean (or destroy it with fire but that takes a big longer) and toss it in the sewer. Drive 15 miles to the next town and repeat.
Boom. Crash. You'd knock power out in 150 million households no problem. And it'd take weeks to fully repair those towers.
You'd do a lot more damage than 9-11 and only a single person or team of two need to be involved, and there's a lot less risk of being caught and no need for making yourself a victim. It wouldn't even be expensive.
#dontarrestmeplease
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
No, that procedure doesn't involve enough Twitter/Instagram/whatever the latest stupid social site is.
Obviously I wasn't suggesting you'd use an actual telephone call. You can do that via snapchat, or better yet, whatsapp (since leaving a trail of the message at only one big international company would be silly).
OMG can you imagine?
Get a dozen phones, hook them up to an app that receives notifications. Set Do Not Disturb for a while (so you can set everything up and test), then let it fall back to Vibrate mode once emplaced. Tweet at a hashtag (or whatever) and BOOM! Simultaneous (ish) trigger!
We are very close to ending up on a watch list.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
We are very close to ending up on a watch list
We're already on Google's watch list