In other news today...
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@zecc said in In other news today...:
TL;DR:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/23579/418-i-m-still-a-teapot
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@pjh said in In other news today...:
@tsaukpaetra Google shewee.
Go on, I dare ya....
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Instead of a creep-crawly there was a creep in the crawlspace:
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@raceprouk said in In other news today...:
Local newspaper insults locals who don't want garbage piled in their streets:
"I'll pay you to do this work"
"No! Fuck you, you capitalist worker exploiter!"
"OK then, I'll do it myself"
"Fuck you, you capitalist worker exploiter!"
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@bulb said in In other news today...:
… by coincidence, colleague just mentioned having seen something similar in Ukraine. On a bus. They just helped the guy load the fridge…
Here, we can barely fit humans on the train on my way home. A fridge would not be welcomed.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
A fridge would not be welcomed.
What if the fridge is full of beer ?
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
@magus said in In other news today...:
A fridge would not be welcomed.
What if the fridge is full of beer ?
That's easy. There's enough people on board to hold (*hic*) them. Leave the fridge behind.
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@bulb said in In other news today...:
… by coincidence, colleague just mentioned having seen something similar in Ukraine. On a bus. They just helped the guy load the fridge…
Was it a full sized fridge? I haven't ridden public transportation in a while but it doesn't seem like you could get a normal fridge through the doors.
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Blizzard releases toolkit for AI research with starcraft II.
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Everybody knows that when you have driver issue on Linux, it's Linux fault. And when you have driver issue on Windows, it's the manufacturer's fault. But who's fault is it when the manufacturer is Microsoft ?
Intel, obviously
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@timebandit Also evidence that Microsoft is still really bad at keeping its own parts informed and up to date.
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@timebandit Best part of the article:
The Skylake fiasco came to a head internally when Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella met with Lenovo last year and asked the firm, then the world’s biggest maker of PCs, how it was dealing with the Skylake reliability issues. Lenovo was confused. No one was having any issues, he was told. I assume this led to some interesting conversations between the members of the Microsoft senior leadership team.
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Researchers use maliciously-crafted DNA data to exploit a buffer overflow bug in a gene sequencer and pwn the system.
(Granted, they put the overflow bug there themselves as part of the POC, but they claim it's characteristic of other bugs that exist in real-world sequencing software.)
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@masonwheeler said in In other news today...:
Researchers use maliciously-crafted DNA data to exploit a buffer overflow bug in a gene sequencer and pwn the system.
(Granted, they put the overflow bug there themselves as part of the POC, but they claim it's characteristic of other bugs that exist in real-world sequencing software.)
Man, I already have issues from failed integrity checks, now there's issues with the sequencer itself?!? Ugh, it's a good thing probabilities are usually pretty good...
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@raceprouk said in In other news today...:
@timebandit Also evidence that Microsoft is still really bad at keeping its own parts informed and up to date.
Microsoft is a collection companies that work in something that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike cooperation.
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What a surprise, who could have ever predicted something like this could happen
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If nothing else, this first DNA malware hack confirms that there is no unbridgeable gulf between the programs running in our cells, and those running on our computers. Digital code is digital code.
Uh... yeah... no. This has nothing to do with the programs running in our cells. They encoded a program that they'd written in DNA, but the program that they encoded was intended all along to be run by a computer, not a cell.
DNA is simply pure, raw information, in physical form. All this demonstrates is "badly-written software miraculously manages to fuck up 'read from a string of data of indeterminate length and store a copy of it somewhere safe', again."
The fact that they added the buffer overflow makes this less than impressive. If buffer overflows are so easy to find, then why not use one that already existed? Hell, use one that was already discovered and patched; just get an old, unpatched version of the sequencing software.
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Are you fucking. Kidding me.
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@heterodox
I would get pretty hot if my city was against sugar
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
I would get pretty hot if my city was against sugar
Wow. That's all I have to say.
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@heterodox said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
I would get pretty hot if my city was against sugar
Wow. That's all I have to say.
I see the problem, they didn't capitalize City in Obsucre City.
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@karla said in In other news today...:
@heterodox said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
I would get pretty hot if my city was against sugar
Wow. That's all I have to say.
I see the problem, they didn't capitalize City in Obsucre City.
That was my first thought. So I googled it. Then told google, no, I really meant what I typed. Wasn't very interesting... And I still don't know what city...
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I am happy that N. Korea isn't going to attack Guam. But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
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@dragoon said in In other news today...:
But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
He needs a better optometrist.
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@dragoon said in In other news today...:
I am happy that N. Korea isn't going to attack Guam. But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@dragoon said in In other news today...:
But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
He needs a better optometrist.
I think I need a better optometrist, because I don't see the funny.
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@anotherusername said in In other news today...:
Uh... yeah... no. This has nothing to do with the programs running in our cells. They encoded a program that they'd written in DNA, but the program that they encoded was intended all along to be run by a computer, not a cell.
Malicious DNA intended to be run by a cell would be some form of (biological) virus. This is definitely possible - plenty exist.
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@zecc said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
@dragoon said in In other news today...:
But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
He needs a better optometrist.
I think I need a better optometrist, because I don't see the funny.
That map he's looking at has print almost the size of his hand.
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@pleegwat they do. But they're completely different.
DNA is, as I said, raw information. You can encode any information in it. They could've found a way to encode the instruction "Punch yourself in the face repeatedly!" in DNA, if they wanted to. If somebody read it, said "hey I recognize this, it's English!", and then did it, that wouldn't mean that it had something to do with the programs that run in our cells. It's just information in a form that someone could read, and they read it and reacted to it in a way that was probably undesirable from simply reading. It means they're an idiot who will do any stupid thing you tell them to do, and they happen to be able to read DNA. Nothing more, really.
It's not even on the same playing field, really. Cells read the information in DNA as instructions -- they're basically executing arbitrary, unsigned code. DNA sequencers read it as data... there's absolutely no reason why anything in the data should ever be executed, and it should be an access violation to even try.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
And I still don't know what city...
I think it's probably Vallejo, CA. Here's the article from Business Insider about it.
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Court finds (in a preliminary ruling) that blocking competitors from scraping data that you make publicly available is probably illegal.
Just a preliminary ruling, but I sure hope this holds and sets a precedent.
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@anotherusername said in In other news today...:
Cells read the information in DNA as instructions -- they're basically executing arbitrary, unsigned code. DNA sequencers read it as data... there's absolutely no reason why anything in the data should ever be executed, and it should be an access violation to even try.
Cells are hugely complicated. here is a whole meta-layer of control that is done through types of pattern matching against the DNA too, and all the splicing done on the tRNA, and so on. It's not just code, it's recursive self-modifying code and everything is done with stupid regular expressions and substitutions.
So yes, DNA is all code, but it is code that would never pass a proper code review.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
it's recursive self-modifying code and everything is done with stupid regular expressions and substitutions.
Don't forget it's also compressed! That makes is sooo much more difficult to analyze well.... :)
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@tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
it's recursive self-modifying code and everything is done with stupid regular expressions and substitutions.
Don't forget it's also compressed! That makes is sooo much more difficult to analyze well.... :)
And the vast majority of DNA is commented out code that that no one bothers to delete. Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
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@mzh said in In other news today...:
Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
It's just very distributed.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
@mzh said in In other news today...:
Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
It's just very distributed.
Not to mention each installation is tweaked just so, making syncing up somewhat a pain...
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@tsaukpaetra Typically trying to resynchronize is forbidden by law and/or society anyway.
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@dragoon said in In other news today...:
I am happy that N. Korea isn't going to attack Guam. But really, the picture is so funny I had to post it.
I saw a news report about it and laughed as the reporter helpfully zoomed into the picture while saying "there is a line from North Korea to Guam", like if it was a new and important piece of information. Maybe when (if?) the tensions keep raising, the next picture will have a big arrow pointing towards Guam, making it even more menacing...
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@mzh said in In other news today...:
And the vast majority of DNA is commented out code that that no one bothers to delete.
I suspect this will eventually be like the myth that we only use 10% of our brains.
@mzh said in In other news today...:
Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
Ahem.
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@boomzilla that is a dev/fly_fixed_final2_for_real/ , not even zipped so no checksum
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@mzh said in In other news today...:
Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
See, we don't need no steekin distribution! One repo to rule the world!
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Who could have predicted that !
https://www.axios.com/study-higher-minimum-wages-hasten-automation-job-losses-2472925911.html
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@timebandit It's almost as unpredictable as the random spaces and dashes you put in things !
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@mzh said in In other news today...:
@tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
it's recursive self-modifying code and everything is done with stupid regular expressions and substitutions.
Don't forget it's also compressed! That makes is sooo much more difficult to analyze well.... :)
And the vast majority of DNA is commented out code that that no one bothers to delete. Four billion years isn't long enough to come up with source control?
Actually, that "commented out code" plays some rather important roles...
I would be very careful to delete any of those "comments" :)
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Noncoding DNA
Based on some of the code I see, a lot of software developers must have non-coding DNA (no I didn't read the wiki article)
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@rhywden said in In other news today...:
Actually, that "commented out code" plays some rather important roles...
I would be very careful to delete any of those "comments" :)
Funny how the more we look at life, the more stuff we find that appeared to have no function at first glance and is now shown to be important...
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@masonwheeler it's like we as a species have a bad habit of claiming we understand a lot more than we really do...