Wow! Look at the price savings!





  • Screenshot, yo.



  • did anyone else get the GodTalk ad on the bottom of the screen too?



  • @Nyquist said:

    did anyone else get the GodTalk ad on the bottom of the screen too?
    Yes, but I already knew that Jesus loves the little children.

    Is this the one?



  • @belgariontheking said:

    @Nyquist said:

    did anyone else get the GodTalk ad on the bottom of the screen too?
    Yes, but I already knew that Jesus loves the little children.

    Is this the one?

    AARRGH.



    No but that is kinda scarier... and needs some kinda pedobear 'shopping....



    This is it






    Began to think I was developing mild schizophrenia..




  • I'm real, unless you declare me an integer - God

    Is this the real life, is this just fantasy? - God

    etc, etc...



  • @Nyquist said:

    This is it
     

    Sarcastic no-shit God. I like it.



  •  I like the "What part of 'thou shalt not' didn't you understand?" one.

     

    Uh..."Thou" and "Shalt"? I don't live in the Middle Ages, God.



  • Eh, I dunno how much I like the idea of God telling me to "cmon over and bring the kids." I'd, uh, rather not go right now thanks...



    He also made me lose the game. D:



  •  I was so hoping there was a "Nietzsche is dead" buried in there somewhere, but no such luck.



  • @belgariontheking said:

    @Nyquist said:

    did anyone else get the GodTalk ad on the bottom of the screen too?
    Yes, but I already knew that Jesus loves the little children.

    Is this the one?

    Why does it have to be a child with compassion?  Can't I sponsor a kid without even a trace of empathy?



  • You people are trying too hard to be funny. You're not, you know.



  • @Serpardum said:

    Nough said.  

     

    "Nough"? Seriously... "NOUGH"?



  • @Zylon said:

    @Serpardum said:

    Nough said.  

     

    "Nough"? Seriously... "NOUGH"?

     

     

    Ur doin it rong. Its 'Nuff sed'.



  • @Nyquist said:



    This is it






    Began to think I was developing mild schizophrenia..

    People who believe in a personal god freak me the fuck out. I mean
    really, even in the remote chance that there is some omnipotent entity
    that we have not yet discovered, why the fuck should he care about me
    and my life. And if he did, it would just mean he's a creepy old
    man/woman/it.

    I know, I know, you shouldn't try to be rational about "religion", and just have "faith", whatever the fuck that actually means; but I still think that god is a lecherous old coot. (when entertaining the what-if case of god existing)



  • @stratos said:

    People who believe in a personal god freak me the fuck out. I mean
    really, even in the remote chance that there is some omnipotent entity
    that we have not yet discovered, why the fuck should he care about me
    and my life. And if he did, it would just mean he's a creepy old
    man/woman/it.

    You would think that an intelligent geek would be able to concieve of and entertain for a while the notion and structure of a system with an omnipotent entity who is capable of this care without being "a creepy old man". Or the system of most any other religious worldview, for that matter.

    If they're at all interested in the matter, that is - whether in terms of cultural understanding, historical understanding (of a major force in world history) or philosophy or anything like that. If they didn't care and just want to assuage their pre-existing prejudices, of course, they can be much lazier and dismissive; likewise if they just want to wage ideological warfare. In these cases you have no need for intellectual honesty or to entertain any argument which might conceivably disagree, and you can dismiss everyone with different modes of thought as brainless sheeple, and be oblivious to any hint of irony in the matter.

    But don't expect a pat on the back for your insight from little old me if that's all you've got, buddy, cuz it's kinda weak. Doubly so as a matter of bragging.



  • @stratos said:

    People who believe in a personal god freak me the fuck out.

     

    This reminds me of the people who complain about voice mail and phone menus because they hate "talking to a machine", in the sense that they've apparently managed to convince themselves that their peculiar neurosis is actually part of a sage and enlightened philosophy of life.  If I had this problem, I probably wouldn't brag about it.

    Start small.  Chat with some people who are only slightly religious, maybe some Unitarians or Mormons.  Then move up to some actual Christians or Jews.  With any luck, we can cure that phobia of yours in a few weeks or months.



  • @Aaron said:

    Start small.  Chat with some people who are only slightly religious, maybe some Unitarians or Mormons.
    Mormons are far more than slightly religious.@Aaron said:
    Then move up to some actual Christians or Jews.
    Good point though.  Mormons are not actual Christians.



  • @Aaron said:

    Chat with some people who are only slightly religious, maybe some Unitarians or Mormons.

    I wish Mormons around here were only slightly religious. Although, in fairness they tend to show more restraint (when they start gushing about their god) and prefer subtle conversion methods. Doesn't make their door-to-door any less annoying.



  • @stratos said:

    @Nyquist said:



    This is it






    Began to think I was developing mild schizophrenia..

    People who believe in a personal god freak me the fuck out. I mean
    really, even in the remote chance that there is some omnipotent entity
    that we have not yet discovered, why the fuck should he care about me
    and my life. And if he did, it would just mean he's a creepy old
    man/woman/it.

     

    What you deem important or right, or your ability to comprehend the universe, does not determine reality.  I've heard lots of speculation from agnostics about how highly advanced aliens would appear to us (and vice versa)... think about how different their attitudes and behavior would be, and they would still be, in a way, human.  Would you expect a being that is radically different from us to have the same thoughts and experiences?



  • @belgariontheking said:

    @Aaron said:
    Start small.  Chat with some people who are only slightly religious, maybe some Unitarians or Mormons.
    Mormons are far more than slightly religious.

    True, Mormons are very devout.  Giving Aaron the benefit of the doubt, though, I think he might have meant "people who are not particularly fanatical about religion".  Mormons tend to be very reserved and polite when interacting with non-Mormons, and much less strong in their language and posture than Evangelicals.



  • I like how this managed to go from a price increase somehow being a savings (maybe they take cues from the US Congress?) to a discussion about God.

    Personally I believe in Logic, so you are left with the following possibilities: There are no deities, there are multiple deities, or there is one deity. Since those are mutually exclusive statements, only one of them can be true (that is, it is a senseless proposition to claim that there are simultaneously no deities and only one deity). (I'm ignoring, for the sake of simplicity, some of the more esoteric definitions such as mortal deities or the like which could be transient)

    So the whole exercise is then to make an informed decision (I think) about which one of those possibilities matches up with observations of the universe, including historical records, the way people interact with each other, and even general physics, mathematics, and cosmology.

    Hysteria, fanaticism, and other kinds of extreme "religion" are detrimental, no matter which of the three possibilities for which you are a proponent.

    Then, of course, there are subclasses if you pick one of the 'deity' options: what kind of deity or deities? What is their character? etc. etc.

    The worst thing, in my mind, is someone who picks any of the options "just because" rather than sitting and thinking about how observations match their theories. In fact, I often cringe when people claim to have the same conclusions regarding the spiritual as myself but they have no idea why they think that, or they use such arguments as "just because" or "they just feel that way."

    By the way - where the heck did the preview button go?



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    Personally I believe in Logic, so you are left with the following possibilities: There are no deities, there are multiple deities, or there is one deity. Since those are mutually exclusive statements, only one of them can be true (that is, it is a senseless proposition to claim that there are simultaneously no deities and only one deity). (I'm ignoring, for the sake of simplicity, some of the more esoteric definitions such as mortal deities or the like which could be transient)
    I am unequivocally atheistic, but I'm not silly enough to think that logic need apply to a god. I accept that a deity or deities could exist, but see no evidence for it.  A lack of evidence is not disproof, of course, but until somebody provides something more substansive than a face in a cheese sandwich and the fact that bananas are easy to open, I'm not going to add unnecessary hypotheses. @too_many_usernames said:
    The worst thing, in my mind, is someone who picks any of the options "just because" rather than sitting and thinking about how observations match their theories. In fact, I often cringe when people claim to have the same conclusions regarding the spiritual as myself but they have no idea why they think that, or they use such arguments as "just because" or "they just feel that way."
    I disagree.  While "I feel it in my heart" is not empirical evidence and thus doesn't sway me in the least, I accept this as a perfectly valid justification for them.  Taking that feeling as a justification for denying empirical evidence is completely unacceptable, though, which is why all the intelligent design people are 'tards.



  • @Aaron said:

    This reminds me of the people who complain about voice mail and phone menus because they hate "talking to a machine", in the sense that they've apparently managed to convince themselves that their peculiar neurosis is actually part of a sage and enlightened philosophy of life.  If I had this problem, I probably wouldn't brag about it.
     

    Isn't that a Dave Barry bit?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    @Aaron said:
    Start small.  Chat with some people who are only slightly religious, maybe some Unitarians or Mormons.
    Mormons are far more than slightly religious.

    True, Mormons are very devout.  Giving Aaron the benefit of the doubt, though, I think he might have meant "people who are not particularly fanatical about religion".  Mormons tend to be very reserved and polite when interacting with non-Mormons, and much less strong in their language and posture than Evangelicals.

    Except for the 18 year old mormon kid down the street that keeps stalking me.



  •  sheesh, you make one off hand comment and the bloody spanish inquisition comes out to get you. Believe in a personal god all you want, but you will freak me out for doing it. I am also stupidfied at how my comment got interpreted as "bragging".



  • @stratos said:

     sheesh, you make one off hand comment
    and the bloody spanish inquisition comes out to get you. Believe in a
    personal god all you want, but you will freak me out for doing it. I am
    also stupidfied at how my comment got interpreted as "bragging".

     

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    Personally I believe in Logic,
     

    -1 Mistaken Personification or Deifying of a concept

    [quote
    user="too_many_usernames"](that is, it is a senseless proposition to
    claim that there are simultaneously no deities and only one deity).
    (I'm ignoring, for the sake of simplicity, some of the more esoteric
    definitions such as mortal deities or the like which could be
    transient)[/quote]

    -1 Reckless simplification

    [quote
    user="too_many_usernames"]So the whole exercise is then to make an
    informed decision (I think) about which one of those possibilities
    matches up with observations of the universe, including historical
    records, the way people interact with each other, and even general
    physics, mathematics, andcosmology.[/quote]

    +1 Relaxed
    -1 Incoherent sentence.

    [quote
    user="too_many_usernames"]Hysteria, fanaticism, and other kinds of
    extreme "religion" are detrimental, no matter which of the three
    possibilities for which you are a proponent.[/quote]

    +1 Truth

    [quote
    user="too_many_usernames"]The worst thing, in my mind, is someone who
    picks any of the options "just because" rather than sitting and
    thinking about how observations match their theories.[/quote]

    +1 Pet Peeve

     

    @bstorer said:

    I'm not silly enough to think that logic need apply to a god.

    +1 Withhold judgement

    @bstorer said:

    While "I feel it in my heart" is not empirical evidence and thus doesn't sway me in the least, I accept this as a perfectly valid justification for them

    I Feel It In My Heart (my new hit single btw) was the main reason for changing my dekstop wallpaper to the current one. <3

    @bstorer said:

    Taking that feeling as a justification for denying empirical evidence is completely unacceptable, though, which is why all the intelligent design people are 'tards.

    +1 Hear Hear

     

    @dhromed said:

    +1-1

    -1 Conversationalist  :(



  • @dhromed said:

    @stratos said:

     sheesh, you make one off hand comment
    and the bloody spanish inquisition comes out to get you. Believe in a
    personal god all you want, but you will freak me out for doing it. I am
    also stupidfied at how my comment got interpreted as "bragging".

     

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.



  •  @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    :D



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Aaron said:

    This reminds me of the people who complain about voice mail and phone menus because they hate "talking to a machine", in the sense that they've apparently managed to convince themselves that their peculiar neurosis is actually part of a sage and enlightened philosophy of life.  If I had this problem, I probably wouldn't brag about it.
     

    Isn't that a Dave Barry bit?

     

    I thought it sounded familiar when I read it back, but I couldn't place it.  It's definitely possible that I came across something similar in one of his columns.



  • @bstorer said:

    I am unequivocally atheistic, but I'm not silly enough to think that logic need apply to a god. I accept that a deity or deities could exist, but see no evidence for it.  A lack of evidence is not disproof, of course, but until somebody provides something more substansive than a face in a cheese sandwich and the fact that bananas are easy to open, I'm not going to add unnecessary hypotheses.

     

    The aphorism for this is "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

    Combined with the other common saying, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", the only rational scientific position is theoretical agnosticism with practical atheism.

    But again, there's not exactly any law requiring people to take the most rational scientific position on every subject.  Most people make the majority of important decisions based on belief or intuition as opposed to logical analysis.  And far too many of the "enlightened" folks who persist in disparaging every type of "theist" tend to make decisions and arrive at conclusions in exactly the same way when it comes to every other social or philosophical question - like, say, socialized health care, or "climate change."

    (Hey, the can of worms was already open, right?)



  • @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    @stratos said:

     sheesh, you make one off hand comment
    and the bloody spanish inquisition comes out to get you. Believe in a
    personal god all you want, but you will freak me out for doing it. I am
    also stupidfied at how my comment got interpreted as "bragging".

     

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    Speak American, dammit!



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    @stratos said:

     sheesh, you make one off hand comment
    and the bloody spanish inquisition comes out to get you. Believe in a
    personal god all you want, but you will freak me out for doing it. I am
    also stupidfied at how my comment got interpreted as "bragging".

     

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    Speak American, dammit!

    Yeah! We don't speak German!




  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

    translation: Stand and push away the bite. ;)

     

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    translation: They have already started to Hedwig polder, will not be long.

     

    Speak American, dammit!

     

    translated for you, courtesy of google translate 



  • @dhromed said:

    -1 -1 +1 -1 +1 +1 +1 <3 +1

    And so the total is: True.



  • @stratos said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

    translation: Stand and push away the bite. ;)

     

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    translation: They have already started to Hedwig polder, will not be long.

     

    Speak American, dammit!

     

    translated for you, courtesy of google translate 

     

    Alright, now can somebody please translate from Google into English? 



  •  @amischiefr said:

    @stratos said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @stratos said:

    @dhromed said:

    Well, you're from Zeeland.

    Afsteken en wegduwen die hap. ; )

    translation: Stand and push away the bite. ;)

     

     

    Ze zijn al begonnen met de hedwigepolder, duurt niet lang meer.

    translation: They have already started to Hedwig polder, will not be long.

     

    Speak American, dammit!

     

    translated for you, courtesy of google translate 

     

    Alright, now can somebody please translate from Google into English? 

    I don't think there's a direct translation, but after a few passes, I managed to come up with "Agus including mosquitoes." for the first one and "Have you started to recover, unless Angry Inch."


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