@ActionMan said:
Wow, I got a 2nd WTF for free! C&P from a word document and you get style garbage with this editor...
TRWTF is you had to paste from Word. Which means you most likely got the memo as a Word doc instead of part of the email body.
@ActionMan said:
Wow, I got a 2nd WTF for free! C&P from a word document and you get style garbage with this editor...
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
No no, it wouldnt be for US, meaning IT guys, it would be for the shitty companies we work for!Right, because every wtf on this site is a direct cause of the PHB.
@dhromed said:
Someone should post that into a hidden div on a popular site's template.@RayS said:
Assuming (reasonably) that their 6 day workweek excludes Sundays, interesting that you can have flowers delivered for mothers day, a Sunday.
A cruddy spam for a cruddy business! Just to help out with the link spamming that they apparently find so useful...
people who have relations with donkeys
corrupt business owners that kidnap babies
Hopefully GoogleBot will do something useful with those.
Genius!
QFT.
@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
It's really simple. The bugs were marked closed. They are not fixed.
Why should TDWTF keep all the bugs open that they're not responsible for fixing? They've noted the issue and sent it off to the team who can fix it... on a different bug tracker. If you care that much about the issues follow the links to the opened tickets.
@SpectateSwamp said:
Nope I'm not saying that EITHER. But if you do want the very best program that does almost everything an average human being would want on a computer; then you had better not let SSDS slip through your fingers.So you're saying it'll download porn and pirate movies and music? If I tell it to find the wrong thing will it find the right thing?
@SpectateSwamp said:
If I was Swamp Search I would. 20 books a second.
Please refer to all previous postings by subject and markdown if your results differ from 3.
@Renan_S2 said:
Hmm... Wouldn't this be "security" through insanity?Fixed that for you.
Two posts that make no sense in a two year old thread, do you suffer from My Mother Dropped Me As A Child Repeatedly Syndrome?
Various names for the same one: "I forgot what language I'm programming in", "Hey I can do the same things in [new language] that I could in [old language]", "WTF X doesn't have feature Y? Time to roll my own instead of reading the documentation to see that it actually does"
@dhromed said:
Is there a way to slurp those files onto my local machine, where I can use high-falutin' new-fangled young'n things like multitasking, interactive folder trees, multiple open documents and software that I actually know how to use? And of course, a way to dump them back on the server when I'm done?Personally I use source control for that. SVN and git both can use SSH as the transport.
@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
It's really simple. The bugs were marked closed. They are not fixed.
Why should TDWTF keep all the bugs open that they're not responsible for fixing? They've noted the issue and sent it off to the team who can fix it... on a different bug tracker. If you care that much about the issues follow the links to the opened tickets.
@blakeyrat said:
@Lingerance said:You seriously forgot all of the 90s? When did Windows first get a built-in firewall? XP, wasn't active by default until SP2. FreeBSD had one in 1993, the same project provided firewalls for multiple UNIX systems, I'm still trying to find when they were shipped with it. Linux has ipchains in 1998. What was the first release that actually put Security as a major priority? Vista. First UNIX variant to focus on security? OpenBSD in 1994. What was the first release that has central logging? Vista/2008. OpenBSD's syslogd is the same one as 4.3BSD's, which was released in 1986. What was the first release that actually allowed for a limited install? WS 2008.It's good Windows Server is finally improving, but that doesn't change the fact that Windows has historically had a very shitty security model, and backwards compatability will fuck anything new they throw on for a while.Like what? Let's see some money where your mouth is.
@blakeyrat said:
the default should be to block nothing without at least a little user interaction.
@bridget99 said:
That CTO of yours needs to discover XML, a technology which will allow him to continue working in the dark ages but with a veneer of respectability. Just shove your data into XML, store it in a large VARCHAR or TEXT column, and declare victory. Pepper your design documents with references to "The NoSQL Movement" and "Post-Relational Persistence Medium Design" and his victory will be complete.Nah, he hated XML. That didn't stop him from having a single column table where each row was a single line from a file, then he used a fuckload of SUBSTR and CONCAT in a subquery to get the actual columns (the file was fixed width).
@RogerWilco said:
The big question that I haven't solved, is how to make management understand the geeksquad's point of view without starting a trench war. Any suggestions?Make an ally in sales/marketting?
@bjolling said:
@Lingerance said:Part of my overall point was UNIX had those long ago, those are things that have become part of its image. It's good Windows Server is finally improving, but that doesn't change the fact that Windows has historically had a very shitty security model, and backwards compatability will fuck anything new they throw on for a while. On top of that Windows Server is rarely the latest and greatest and I have no guarantee that I'd even be using Windows Server 2008 machines should I end up somewhere having to deal with WS. (I've worked with large companies, they've have Windows Servers as old as NT, and the bulk of them were 9 years old) @bjolling said:Modularity, a UNIX system can be more readily stripped down, what isn't present can't be used against it.
I read ahead until the end of this thread before responding so I know BlakeyRat already proved you know shit about Windows. But he forgot to mention that you should really look into Windows 2008 Server Cores. From MSDNWhy would a stripped down Unix file server be anymore secure than a Windows Server Core with the "File Services" role?
And stop using cmd.exe for crying out loud. Everything is done by PowerShell nowadays. Maybe should start comparing Windows 7 with the Classic Mac. Classic Mac really sucks!So a 4 year old technology would be on every single Windows Server box I would expect to be using? "Ancient "servers exist (read: older than 4 years), they occasionally need to be dealt with. Contrast the *NIX shell, ksh/bash are mature, robust and available on pretty much any *NIX server you'd deal with. The original question was "what's so secure about *NIX?", the things I listed are all things that have been with *NIX for years, and are embedded into the _reputation_ of that familly of OSen. What reputation does Windows Server have? The most positive thing I can think of is it works great with Windows desktops in terms of functionality, which is unrelated to security.
@Rick said:
Unix equivilant:
$ echo > -ior if you are feeling mean
$ echo > -rf
$ echo > -i $ echo > -rf $ ls -i -rf $ rm -- -i -rf $ ls $ echo > -i $ echo > -rf $ ls -i -rf $ rm ./-* $ ls $
Those are trivial to get rid of (GUI file managers have zero issue with them). The "--" is a feature of gnuopt AFAIK as most of the GNU core-utils supports it (it means everything after is a file, not an option), the ./-* is a more portable means (using a glob).
[Edit]: To pre-empt the inevitable "but only *NIX gurus would know about that"; a novice can use a GUI or CUI based file manager, they can move every other file out of the directory then delete the directory, or they can do: "rm
" which in many implementations works the same as the -- solution (since in those implementations they stop looking for argument flags once they see the first file on the argument list). That would only be an equivolent is most tools choked on it when those files were present in the explicitly named directory (eg: if they were in ~/test/ and rm -r ~/test/ failed).mktemp
-i -rf
@da Doctah said:
Tried that. Didn't work. It's one of those mini window things (with the smaller than normal titlebar).@Lingerance said:
- If you open a window that isn't confied to another it should have its own task-bar item or it should check to see if it's actually visible when the user asks for it to appear (the phone software I used at IBM had a fairly important sub-window [or whatever the fuck they're called] which I had set a coordinates like (2500, 40), now clearly this isn't visiable if you have one monitor, but when I had set it I had three. Yet I wasn't able to retrieve it when I was temporarily forced to use a single monitor, the taskbar entry should've enabled me to move the window without seeing it [but as it didn't have one I couldn't do that])
Alt, Space, M, cursor keys to move it around, Enter to fix it in place.
Sometimes I wonder about you mouseoholics.
On top of what blakeyrat said keep in mind there are now certain assumptions that come with dealing with GUI applications. Some are more subtle than others. Some that I've noticed violations of:
There are others, I used to have a list of UI grievances, but I can't find it.
Honestly, if I were in your situation I'd just go XML all the way. It'll reduce the amount of technologies you have to work with, which makes things simpler, you can just store the downloaded data in a cache directory (on *NIX that should be ~/.cache/program_name/) and have the program download it as needed, and give the option to force a download of the data. Qt (note casing. QT is QuickTime) should have an XML parsing system already, so your fears of having to parse the entire XML are slightly mitigated (SQLite isn't much more efficient). As for the transfer of settings, settings, application data and cached data all have their own directories anyways (~/.config/program_name/ or ~/.program_name, /usr/(local/)share/program_name/ and ~/.cache/program_name/ respectively on *NIX), if you follow each platform's guide-lines on where things should be placed you'll be fine.