Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!
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MS Teams started nagging me every morning to update to their "new and improved" MS Teams! I finally gave in and did it.
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
And I know this is something that came from some 40-strong marketing team who came up with this stupid idea and forced it on the devs to implement. I bet their first idea was to put a bow on top of the whole button such that it was exceeding the boundaries and partially obscuring the bottom of whatever maximized window was in focus.
If I ever Elon Musk the Microsoft stock the first think I'll do is lay off 99% of the marketing team.
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@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
MS Teams started nagging me every morning to update to their "new and improved" MS Teams! I finally gave in and did it.
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
And I know this is something that came from some 40-strong marketing team who came up with this stupid idea and forced it on the devs to implement. I bet their first idea was to put a bow on top of the whole button such that it was exceeding the boundaries and partially obscuring the bottom of whatever maximized window was in focus.
If I ever Elon Musk the Microsoft stock the first think I'll do is lay off 99% of the marketing team.
Oh, don't worry, they're rolling out NEW versions of the entire Office Suite to turn all of the desktop applications into Edgelectron wrappers on Office Online.
The Firefox 22 brigade is looking more brilliant every day
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@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
It does make it easier for support teams though when asking a user if they're on new Teams or old Teams. In theory at least.
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@loopback0 said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
It does make it easier for support teams though when asking a user if they're on new Teams or old Teams. In theory at least.
Back in the day, this could be accomplished simply by checking the version number in "About". Of course, you can't do that anymore because you'd have to have your lusers read a 12 digit version number that increases at 3 FPS.
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@topspin said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@loopback0 said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
It does make it easier for support teams though when asking a user if they're on new Teams or old Teams. In theory at least.
Back in the day, this could be accomplished simply by checking the version number in "About". Of course, you can't do that anymore because you'd have to have your lusers read a 12 digit version number that increases at 3 FPS.
Yes, that's why I said it makes it easier and not that it wasn't otherwise possible.
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@The_Quiet_One Got pics?
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The 90s internet called, they want the 'NEW' GIF back for all the links on hand-updated blogs.
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@loopback0 said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
It does make it easier for support teams though when asking a user if they're on new Teams or old Teams. In theory at least.
And in fact the old version is not uninstalled when you install the new Teams. So if you find some features such as bookmarked message is missing and no equivalent feature on the new Teams yet, you can always launch the old version instead.
The "NEW" on icon does make it easier to tell whether the shortcut you see is the new one or old one.
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@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
MS Teams started nagging me every morning to update to their "new and improved" MS Teams!
Yeah, MS has too much people with too much time on their hands. Has been a problem for a while.
That said, I do see one improvement: the “old” teams didn't respond to audio system changes properly, so after plugging in the headset I had to open the device config dialog most of the time and tell it to switch to the correct speakers and correct microphone, while the “new” teams seem to be picking the correct defaults fine so far.
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@loopback0 said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Now the fucking taskbar icon has this green "NEW" badge on it. No, this doesn't mean "NEW" messages or alerts. It is literally reminding me that the MS Teams I got is new.
It does make it easier for support teams though when asking a user if they're on new Teams or old Teams. In theory at least.
I'd think the change from purple title- and side-bar to system-default-color title- and side-bar is conspicuous-enough change for the purpose though.
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I'm not even sure how to get the new-shit-same-as-the-old-shit:
- Launch the Teams app and turn on Try the new Teams toggle on the upper-left corner of the desktop app to switch to new Teams.
- Opt-in by selecting the Try the new Teams toggle and select “Get it now”. To switch back, just flip the toggle.
No idea how that's 2 bullets, both steps are the same thing. Anyway, there is no such button.
Minimum Mac and Teams versions
You must be running on macOS Monterey (12) or higher.
14, check.
To see the “Try the new Teams” toggle, your current Teams app must be running version 1.6.00.12303 or higher. If you are at a lower version, select on the overflow menu (…) and select on check for updates, update, and restart your app. If you still don't see the App Switcher, please Report a Problem.
You can get to the version number if you pick the right one, but of course, there are several of those shitty things in several submenus:
Also, since this is electron garbage, of course the whole menu bar of the app contains almost nothing useful or app specific at all, only things for a general browser. (E.g. you have the calendar open and the edit menus shows stuff like copy or delete, but these don't actually have useful functions for calendar events. They only act on the text elements of this not-a-browser).
Luckily, the two things it provides are an option for the settings and "info", which just pops up a text field at the top of the browser saying:Sie haben Microsoft Teams Version 1.6.00.29954. Sie wurde zuletzt am 03.11.23 aktualisiert.
Okay, so I'm 17,651 versions ahead of the required one.
Where's the fucking button?Well, it's unlikely that the new version is going to be better anyway.
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@topspin said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Where's the fucking button?
I think it needs to be enabled by your company/school/whatever.
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@loopback0 said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@topspin said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Where's the fucking button?
I think it needs to be enabled by your company/school/whatever.
And how many of those would enable a button for that?
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@Watson if there was a "fucking button" I'm sure a lot of people would want to enable it. Though maybe not companies/schools.
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@remi sad noises
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@izzion said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Oh, don't worry, they're rolling out NEW versions of the entire Office Suite to turn all of the desktop applications into Edgelectron wrappers on Office Online.
really?
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Since updating to the "new" Teams I have noticed the following updates:
- "New" badge as specified in the OP
- The notifications are bigger
Everything else seems to be exactly the same
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@marczellm Outlook also has a "NEW" version. Not sure what they want to do with everything else...
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@Bulb said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@The_Quiet_One said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
MS Teams started nagging me every morning to update to their "new and improved" MS Teams!
Yeah, MS has too much people with too much time on their hands. Has been a problem for a while.
That said, I do see one improvement: the “old” teams didn't respond to audio system changes properly, so after plugging in the headset I had to open the device config dialog most of the time and tell it to switch to the correct speakers and correct microphone, while the “new” teams seem to be picking the correct defaults fine so far.
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@boomzilla said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
That's incidentally the pinnacle of testing this kind of apps at Microsoft.
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@hungrier said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Since updating to the "new" Teams I have noticed the following updates:
- "New" badge as specified in the OP
- The notifications are bigger
Everything else seems to be exactly the same
If you’re a maniacal Task Manager simp, you’ll notice NEW Teams is less of a memory hog.
Which says something about how bad old Teams was, if it’s being beaten by an Edgelectron app.
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@Bulb said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@boomzilla said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
That's incidentally the pinnacle of testing this kind of apps at Microsoft.
It’s electron. It works everywhere.
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@topspin Except when they started, they made custom audio integration for it. Which then gave them a lot of pain trying to make it run on Linux. And which is the problematic bit still.
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@izzion said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Which says something about how bad old Teams was, if it’s being beaten by an Edgelectron app.
It's just one Edgelectron app beating another Edgelectron app, isn't it?
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@Bulb said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@topspin Except when they started, they made custom audio integration for it. Which then gave them a lot of pain trying to make it run on Linux. And which is the problematic bit still.
Hmm...I run the Windows version in Windows...and the "preview" version in my Linux VM. I only use the audio on Windows though.
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@boomzilla It worked on Linux fine by the time I stopped using it on Linux, but it took them pretty long to get it working there. It was maybe two or three years when they were already pushing it hard as replacement for Skype-against-Business when calling didn't work on Linux, including in the browsers. You could fake the user-agent in Chrome to make it try, but then it was severely broken anyway, so clearly they did something non-standard there.
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@Bulb said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@topspin Except when they started, they made custom audio integration for it. Which then gave them a lot of pain trying to make it run on Linux. And which is the problematic bit still.
Your post makes it sound like I wasn’t being sarcastic. I resent that.
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@HardwareGeek Embrace, Extend, Extinguish lives.
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@Arantor extinguish electron?
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@topspin said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Sie haben Microsoft Teams Version 1.6.00.29954. Sie wurde zuletzt am 03.11.23 aktualisiert.
Okay, so I'm 17,651 versions ahead of the required one.
Where's the fucking button?Mine says 23285.3703.2471.4627, so I'm 23,284 major versions ahead of you and I don't have the option either.
(Yes, yes, there are multiple things called "Microsoft Teams" and the one I have isn't the one you guys are talking about. Microsoft doesn't want me to use the Enterprisey version, it seems.)
Well, it's unlikely that the new version is going to be better anyway.
Chances are very slim.
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@hungrier said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Since updating to the "new" Teams I have noticed the following updates:
- "New" badge as specified in the OP
- The notifications are bigger
Everything else seems to be exactly the same
If you have bookmarked message, you'll notice it's missing on the new Teams.
They said the feature will be replaced by something that superseded it, but won't be available till the next year.
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@JBert well actually... Outlook has TWO "New" versions because the new Mac version is an entirely different app
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@Arantor said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
Actually, except the first 3 and Teams, I haven't used the others.
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@cheong you never got two cans, put a bit of string through them and used them as 'phones' as a kid?
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@Arantor said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@cheong you never got two cans, put a bit of string through them and used them as 'phones' as a kid?
Smoke signals would be more like this place...
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@dkf the magic smoke needs to stay inside the box for the box to work though.
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@Arantor You don't waste magic smoke for smoke signals, you use normal smoke.
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@Bulb but then my smoke alarm goes off.
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@Arantor said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@Bulb but then my smoke alarm goes off.
Get some of those smoke alarms with extra preservatives. Good for years, or 3 days after opening.
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@Arantor said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
@cheong you never got two cans, put a bit of string through them and used them as 'phones' as a kid?
No. Not done anything like that before.
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@Arantor said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
I'm sorry but MS Teams has its problems. It has many problems. But I'm convinced WebEx and GotoMeeting are run by people who are intentionally making it as agonizing as possible so they get acquired by Oracle and cash out.
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@The_Quiet_One I never had half the problems with either WebEx or GTM than I did with Teams, though I haven’t had to touch Teams in a year or two.
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have yall heard of Jitsi?
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@marczellm said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
have yall heard of Jitsi?
I tried that at the start of and it felt very much ...
Maybe it's improved since then, but the window of opportunity is gone.
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@marczellm said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
have yall heard of Jitsi?
Are they still using the purple abomination of a protocol that is
jabberXMPP? That protocol has always been an unmitigated disaster, unfortunately.
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@marczellm said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
have yall heard of Jitsi?
Use it for one series of meetings (monthly). It's gotten a lot better than it used to be, to the point where it is satisfying the main critical conditions for a video meeting system with tens of active participants. (Don't know about what happens when you've got hundreds of users, but the meeting dynamic is different then.)
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@marczellm said in Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!:
have yall heard of Jitsi?
Yes, I had the dubious joy of using it to join meetings with a company that prided themselves on using open source. Including me joining their hosted instance, hosted as it was in New Zealand. Latency was… not great.