Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
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@JBert said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
More 3D printing to have extra solutions for ventilator masks:
The guys here at CIIRK are making those masks into very good respirators by 3D-printing filter adaptors. That makes more sense because then they have the complete product, just this time to protect the medical staff tending to the ill.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
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There's your problem:
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Speaking of, one of their communications systems just decided to shit out its RAID card today. So we had to move in yet more hardware today and recover from backups which took far longer than it should have.
....and that OS decided to shit itself on Windows updates last night.
It just never ends.
It shit itself again shortly after I got it back up and running.
There's a Windows update from roughly May of last year that wreaks havoc on any machine with an AMD processor. MS said that they fixed it, but they didn't. I also forgot to disable Windows updates while I was setting up the second VM in a day for this system.
Thankfully I had been snapshotting along the way so this time it was a quick fix. Delete the NICs, roll back to a safe snapshot, fire it back up, kill Windows updates, add a NIC back, configure IP, cross fingers and pray (and I'm an atheist!).
It is still running.
Budget has been approved to make everything possible as redundant as we deem necessary. There's one machine that isn't practical to virtualize due to its massive storage array, but it also isn't critical either.
Fun times.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
You really like to deal in absolutes don't you?
I'm an engineer.
Engineers don't deal in absolutes. They deal in estimates ± error factors.
A software engineer.
Who never uses floating point numbers?
So … Woz?
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@dcon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
*
invalid template argument for '_Elem', type expected
in C++*Fix your typemap.xs !
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TLDR: Germany's incredibly high testing rate is finding all the asymptomatic cases, proving the "high denominator" theory and showing that the actual fatality rate is about an order of magnitude lower than has been reported so far.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
finding all the asymptomatic cases
Probably not really all of them by a long shot. Just significantly more than they do in Italy.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
TLDR: Germany's incredibly high testing rate is finding all the asymptomatic cases, proving the "high denominator" theory and showing that the actual fatality rate is about an order of magnitude lower than has been reported so far.
I think it should be pointed out that while we probably find a large number of weak symptom (and maybe some asymptomatic) cases, it apparently is not enough to find all cases, or at least not early enough to effectively isolate them. That would be ideal, if we could actually just isolate the infected people and effectively stop the spread completely.
However, as of yesterday, the case numbers are still rising exponentially. (There seemed to be an effect of the lockdown already on Monday, but that was due to delayed reporting over the weekend. The next few days should hopefully show a strong decline in new cases.)
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
*suicides in ColdFusion*
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I just don't think that soap touching my hands and then rinsing them off counts as washing your hands.
Late to the party, but fuck it:
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@Benjamin-Hall John Paul Getty III likes this.
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@Mason_Wheeler Yeah, but even 0.5% is still a pretty high number considering that no one is immune.
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@Rhywden Not sure I follow. When you take into consideration the fact that no one is immune, that means that it's higher than it would normally be once you have a partially-immune populace, vaccine production, etc. Which means that once you account for that, this is probably about on par with the ordinary flu.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
There seemed to be an effect of the lockdown already on Monday, but that was due to delayed reporting over the weekend. The next few days should hopefully show a strong decline in new cases.
Due to the long incubation period the effect of the lockdown will be delayed by one to two weeks. Many people are already infected, but will only be diagnosed next week.
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@Bulb said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Many people are already infected, but will only be diagnosed next week.
So make sure to take a lot of vitamin C for the next week!
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@Mason_Wheeler Uh, no, the numbers don't work like that. The lethality of an illness is calculated without taking vaccines into account.
And I don't give a shit about this moronic: "But the flu!" comparison. We. Are. Not. Immune. And. There. Is. No. Vaccine.
Thus it is NOT like the flu. Do you understand? It is not.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
fucking Lync, ratting people out)
Set to
Do Not Disturb (in meeting)
Filed under: (this one weird trick they don't want you to know about!
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Is your house insured?
Country is under lock down. I feel safe at the moment.
Fire, uh... finds a way
Never underestimate the flames of passion! 🔥
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@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
the interns sometimes crash there.
Do you reboot them?
No, cross-ship RMA.
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@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
*suicides in ColdFusion*
*whirls in WTFAI*
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
*suicides in ColdFusion*
*whirls in WTFAI*
*Writhes in pain in MUMPS*
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@lolwhat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I just don't think that soap touching my hands and then rinsing them off counts as washing your hands.
Late to the party, but fuck it:
I really want to link my little stepsister this video...
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler Uh, no, the numbers don't work like that. The lethality of an illness is calculated without taking vaccines into account.
If you say so.
And I don't give a shit about this moronic: "But the flu!" comparison. We. Are. Not. Immune. And. There. Is. No. Vaccine.
Yet.
Thus it is NOT like the flu. Do you understand? It is not.
Yes, that's what the pro-panic people have been saying for weeks now. I wonder how much longer they'll keep it up as more and more data continues to flow in proving them wrong.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yes, that's what the pro-panic people have been saying for weeks now. I wonder how much longer they'll keep it up as more and more data continues to flow in proving them wrong.
Not to be garagey, but that's what athiests have been saying for quite some time.
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@Bulb said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just significantly more than they do in Italy.
It should also be pointed out that the fatality rate in Italy has a lot to do with an overwhelmed healthcare system - which should be a cautionary tale against lifting restrictions too early.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
the interns sometimes crash there.
Do you reboot them?
No, cross-ship RMA.
Not a great idea. Two interns got fired for that last year.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yes, that's what the pro-panic people have been saying for weeks now. I wonder how much longer they'll keep it up as more and more data continues to flow in proving them wrong.
Not to be garagey, but that's what athiests have been saying for quite some time.
Also theists!
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I wonder how much longer they'll keep it up as more and more data continues to flow in proving them wrong.
I don't want to get in the middle of your shouting match, but I just wanted to point out that fatality rate is not the only possible difference to the flu. SARS-Cov-2 also seems to spread a lot faster, and since the flu mutates quite frequently, this can't only be due to lack of immunity.
Edit: Additionally, the quoted 0.5% are not meaningful until a significant number of people have actually survived the disease. The final fatality rate might still be much higher.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yes, that's what the pro-panic people have been saying for weeks now. I wonder how much longer they'll keep it up as more and more data continues to flow in proving them wrong.
Dude. Run your own numbers. 0.5% lethality (and remember, no vaccine, no proven treatment). Estimates of 70% of total population contracting it.
How many inhabitants does the US have? ~329 million. 329 * 0.7 * 0.005 = ~1.15
That would be more than 1.1 million dead people. And on top of that you'll get the other people who cannot be treated due to an overwhelmed system. Heart attack? Dead. Stroke? Dead. Cancer? Well, good luck.
Not to mention all the people who lost their jobs and thus their insurance or the money to buy needed medication like insulin.
edit: Miscalculated, am tired, sorry.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
no vaccine, no proven treatment
We have vaccines under development, and treatments that work right now. (When used as directed by a doctor, rather than by self-medicating idiots who don't know what they're doing, at least.) "Proven" is an incredibly vague term; what's your standard of proof?
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
no vaccine, no proven treatment
We have vaccines under development, and treatments that work right now. (When used as directed by a doctor, rather than by self-medicating idiots who don't know what they're doing, at least.) "Proven" is an incredibly vague term; what's your standard of proof?
No, we do NOT have treatments that "work right now". What we have is anecdotal stories which might lead to something. And vaccines take a long time to develop.
Also, that is precisely why we try to slow down the spread: To give us time to come up with something. Because otherwise we will get what I just calculated.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Also, that is precisely why we try to slow down the spread
Partly, the larger reason (AIUI) is to lessen the burden on medical facilities. Assuming that there will always be (more or less) X number of patients, it behooves us to spread that out as much as possible, so that we don't saturate our medical facilities and we can also treat the other patients effectively.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Bulb said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just significantly more than they do in Italy.
It should also be pointed out that the fatality rate in Italy has a lot to do with an overwhelmed healthcare system - which should be a cautionary tale against lifting restrictions too early.
It should have been cautionary tale for setting the restrictions earlier. It failed to do it.
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@Dragoon Well, that too.
In other, more hopeful news:
I really hope that this test is accurate enough to be distributed widely.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I really hope that this test is accurate enough to be distributed widely.
Yeah, the ones we got from China were reported faulty. ~80% wrong…
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An interesting tidbit that passed by in Dutch news today: Apparently the virus barely mutates. This means both natural immunity and vaccine-based immunity are likely to be long-lasting, and not need to be rebuilt each year like for the flu.
Additionally, they found virus traces in sewer water (but none at all in drinking water). This is interesting long-term, since it means sewer water can be tested to monitor the virus returning once it's gone. This is apparently already done for a number of other diseases, including measles.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Dragoon Well, that too.
In other, more hopeful news:
I really hope that this test is accurate enough to be distributed widely.
It's an antibody test, which means it will tell you if you have had the virus and recovered from it, but not if you are in the early stages of the infection right now.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
"I've been doing low carb for a long time, but if I have to be there that early have some creme horns and creme filled long johns waiting for me."
My entire takeaway from your post is that "long johns" are a kind of donut. I looked them up, and I know them as "<glaze type> bars", as in chocolate bars or maple bars.
Also something about ill winds that blow nobody good. Because that idiom makes absolutely no sense, and it's about how it blows somebody good.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It may not be the worst language ever created, but it's definitely the worst ever to be taken seriously
*laughs in PHP*
*cries in ruby*
*sighs in Bash*
*mojibakes in APL*
*wharrgarbls in Perl*
*suicides in ColdFusion*
*whirls in WTFAI*
*Writhes in pain in MUMPS*
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Best things are designed in a rush.
Less time for marketing, beancounters or management to interfere.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
You certainly have a point, and at a time when I would visit skanky bars I would occasionally make the judgment call that my crotch was cleaner than the sink and not wash my hands.
The problem in such situations is the urge to clean your hands before you touch your crotch. An unsolvable dilemma.
I have no such urges..
Well... you're not married either, if memory serves...
You are correct. But what does that have to do with cleaning your hands before masturbating?
The first rule of hygiene. That is: Wash your hands before touching anything that may end up in someone's mouth.
...I don't masturbate much these days.Indeed. I find it basically impossible to self-fellate, so it never occurred to me.
It's impossible for just about anyone. So you're the first to even think about it.
I mean, if washing hands is a prerequisite to masturbation because mouth contact is involved....
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Do you masturbate before being fellated?I think further discussion should continue in the kink thread...
Well played.
And no, my hand washing has nothing to do with masturbation specifically.
2. Have sex with people close to you.
- You are your safest sex partner. Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands (and any sex toys) with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex.