Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yesterday my mom got sore throat and cough (but no fever), so thinking it might be coronavirus I told her to call a doctor
It could just be common cold, or possibly flu (though that's less likely). It's not like those diseases suddenly stop circulating just because everyone's running around like headless chickens over covid-19.
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@TheCPUWizard said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow - Look back at your picture. Then look where I said "Most of those gloves"...
Doubt you would put on porous cloth gloves to protect from acetone.
I wouldn't touch my car with them either. Point still stands though. I don't touch my face when I'm wearing gloves. I doubt you do either. Do you remember the last time you touched your gloves to your face?
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@anonymous234 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@anonymous234 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@TheCPUWizard said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Or just use a glove. Gloves are a thing.
Most of those gloves And common human behavior) will only be of limited protection. Virus->Glove, then Glove->Face...Gloves are so impractical for that reason. I always thought there ought to be some kind of tool that would let you put on and take off your gloves in less than a second. It would greatly reduce this kind of problem.
OK, alternative idea: long thick gloves that you wear all the time. Whenever you want to switch tasks, you put your hands in a
special device that sprays them with some special acid that dissolves everything but that specific materialtub of 80%+ ethanol , then a strong water spray to clean that up. Perfectly disinfected.
Just don't accidentallyput your bare hands in theredrink it all ...FTFY
Safer. Works better. Outlawed in several countries due to the way alcohol is taxed...
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@mott555 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
ask people to sign a sworn declaration saying that they do not have the virus.
This is one of the latest requirements from our corporate overlords for a visitor entering the office. How this does anything useful is beyond me.
It doesn't really help much, because most people don't know they have it or have any symptoms.
But it might help a little to keep the idiots in check who are bordering on willful:
A friend of mine just told me about his brother who is now quarantined to home-office because a coworker came back from a holiday in northern Italy (which was declared a risk zone by then) with fever symptoms and went to work anyway. Then he got diagnosed with Corona. Why the fuck would you go to work like that?
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@TheCPUWizard said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Most of those gloves And common human behavior) will only be of limited protection. Virus->Glove, then Glove->Face...
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Why the fuck would you go to work like that?
What do you mean why? If they don't show up, regardless of reasons, shit will hit the fan. Eight different bosses, lots of customers, coworkers, you name it, will be angry that some work or another is not being done. Now whether that work could not wait a bit or is not altogether some invented bullshit or shuffling around that never needed being done in the first place is a separate question.
If your work depends on someone else's work, especially if your own ass is on the line, there better be some biblical plague going on before they'll off the hook. Any long-term considerations are less important than immediate inconvenience.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Why the fuck would you go to work like that?
What do you mean why? If they don't show up, regardless of reasons, shit will hit the fan. Eight different bosses, lots of customers, coworkers, you name it, will be angry that some work or another is not being done. Now whether that work could not wait a bit or is not altogether some invented bullshit or shuffling around that never needed being done in the first place is a separate question.
If your work depends on someone else's work, especially if your own ass is on the line, there better be some biblical plague going on before they'll off the hook. Any long-term considerations are less important than immediate inconvenience.
This is Germany. You are sick, you stay home (paid). End of story.
The cost of this to the rest of the workforce is stupendous.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
there better be some biblical plague going on
Your wish appears to be going to be satisfied. I hope that makes you happy!
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Your wish appears to be going to be satisfied.
Damnation! Should have wished for a girlfriend instead. Or Eurojackpot winning ticket
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@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Me and my family were on vacation in USA and we arrived back home on Feb 25th. Yesterday my mom got sore throat and cough (but no fever), so thinking it might be coronavirus I told her to call a doctor.
If it's any consolation, doctors here in Europe wouldn't test you in that case, either. The authorities and hospitals only barely manage to test those who absolutely need to be tested (proven contact & fever) in a timely manner. There's no capacity left to deal with everyone who is probably just needlessly worried.
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
there better be some biblical plague going on
Your wish appears to be going to be satisfied. I hope that makes you happy!
Hmm...so the locust effect is that it makes people call out sick? I guess it's better than damaging storms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Pakistan_locust_infestation
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@anonymous234 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@anonymous234 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@TheCPUWizard said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Or just use a glove. Gloves are a thing.
Most of those gloves And common human behavior) will only be of limited protection. Virus->Glove, then Glove->Face...Gloves are so impractical for that reason. I always thought there ought to be some kind of tool that would let you put on and take off your gloves in less than a second. It would greatly reduce this kind of problem.
OK, alternative idea: long thick gloves that you wear all the time. Whenever you want to switch tasks, you put your hands in a
special device that sprays them with some special acid that dissolves everything but that specific materialtub of 80%+ ethanol , then a strong water spray to clean that up. Perfectly disinfected.
Just don't accidentallyput your bare hands in theredrink it all ...FTFY
Safer. Works better. Outlawed in several countries due to the way alcohol is taxed...
When I was in Argentina, one time I was at the kiosco one time and saw a clear bottle of clear liquid. The label said it was pure alcohol, useful for cleaning/disinfecting, starting fires, or mixing drinks.
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Friend of mine got sick and was tested. The result: "You have a coronavirus, but not the coronavirus." Apparently the unqualified term coronavirus is a very broad category, like saying mammals or perennials or C-like languages.
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@mott555 It is. There are a lot of different coronavirus variants; most of them either don't affect humans or cause very mild symptoms akin to the common cold. The Wuhan coronavirus is something new.
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@Mason_Wheeler We even had some idiots who stole the vaccine for a bovine corona virus (needless to say, completely different variant and only affects ... bovines. Who'da thunk it?)
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@Rhywden Holy cow, some people are such idiots...
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@Mason_Wheeler The bad pun thread is
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler We even had some idiots who stole the vaccine for a bovine corona virus (needless to say, completely different variant and only affects ... bovines. Who'da thunk it?)
Well that's bullshit.
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My cat has coronavirus. Had for many years. So, yeah, it's a very large family of viruses.
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In fact, most "rhinoviruses" (the cold) are coronaviruses.
19 is "just a cold" (in the same way a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors...). An especially lethal (seemingly around 2.5%) cold. Contagious as the common cold, so you know a lot of people are going to die. Some 4 million if half the US population gets it (and the epidemiologists are predicting 40% to 70% if it goes wild...)
Another problem. We might have 2.5% mortality rates this year. But apparently the human body forgets how to fight coronaviruses (i.e., it never builds up an immunity), so it could go around the world over and over again, and wipe out 2.5% of the population each time it does. (Granted, that "per-generation" number would fall, some, since 40% to 70% of the most susceptible would have gotten it in the first round, etc.)
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@Captain imagine if it hides in the nerve system like herpes, and is equally impossible to get rid off once infected, going for a quick fight with the immune system whenever the host is stressed.
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On the door of my local DIY store this weekend: Dust masks unfortunately sold out.
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@Carnage Ugh, yeah that's some more scary stuff. It's so "novel", so we really don't know anything about it long term (aside from what we know about coronavirus as a class, but since 19 is different, it's hard to tell how much of that even applies, especially to the layman)
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@Captain I'd assume that, if this coronavirus were here to stay, we'd develop vaccines against it. Like we do for the flu basically, but maybe make it mandatory (I don't know how it works in the US wrt vaccinations).
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@admiral_p Of course. Eventually. But if it goes 3 rounds, it will take out about 2-4% of the population (and that's assuming the mortality rate declines from 2.5% each time...) The oldest and otherwise fragile, of course. Lots of families will lose a loved one though.
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@Captain given that it only reaches 1% above 50, this forum should be empty within a year, given that we're all our oldest member.
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@dkf Ehr...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin What's the difference between sex and a pizza?
I...
can get a pizza... ... ...I'm on keto so I have the opposite problem.
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@Captain said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
19 is "just a cold" (in the same way a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors...).
I can't even follow this stuff when you actually try to explain it. Using it as an analogy is not a good idea.
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@anonymous234 yeah, normal people use cars.
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@anonymous234 It's actually end effectors.
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Gloves? Pah!
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@boomzilla You know, compared to inflated latex pants, this doesn't seem too bad.
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Anyway now the whole of Italy is on Lockdown+™. Bars, restaurants, shops, non-essential services, all closed all day (up to now they could operate until 6pm). The only things that can be open are grocery stores (and supermarkets), newsagents, tobacconists (thank God), insurance agencies, and a handful of other things. Factories can carry on with their operations provided they enforce the mandated measures (min. 1m distance between people, no crowding, adequate ventilation, etc.) and administration, marketing, etc. (everything that is not strictly essential to production) must shut down.
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@Captain said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
In fact, most "rhinoviruses" (the cold) are coronaviruses.
19 is "just a cold" (in the same way a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors...).
I'm glad you clarified that for us.
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@Captain said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
An especially lethal (seemingly around 2.5%) cold.
Just commenting to say that those 2.5% everyone's talking about mean absolutely nothing. It's the current rate of death in confirmed cases. The final overall mortality rate could be both higher and lower in the end - we'll basically have to wait until the pandemic is over for any meaningful data.
But yeah, it's pretty scary.
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@Zecc I've seen that one make the rounds on my employer's Slack. Somebody commented:
that's the 2003 edition, it only protects against SARS
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@boomzilla I think that looks awesome.
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@Carnage For a moment there I thought your post applied to the photo I posted.
To clarify: including the @boomzilla mention.
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@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage For a moment there I thought your post applied to the photo I posted.
I could do that too.
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@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Channeling inner @Tsaukpaetra:
Do me! Do me!
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@JBert said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zecc I've seen that one make the rounds on my employer's Slack. Somebody commented:
that's the 2003 edition, it only protects against SARS
Damn, ’d … I wanted to comment that that mask is at least 16 years past its expiry date.
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@topspin
But maybe he prefers McAfee?
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Do me! Do me!
I'm not being paid to slack off on company time.
Having said that:
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Chit-chat on social media:
Someone: with all those people confined inside their homes, there will be a baby boom in 9 months.
Me: the most popular 2021 names for babies are going to be Wuhan for boys, Covide for girls.