Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?
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@Jaloopa I too figured that’s the reason, because nobody in their right mind would answer “yes” to any of the questions. I now think it illustrates quite neatly some of (the mentality resulting from) the differences between common law and civil law.
Edited because: rewriting your sentences halfway through sometimes leaves debris behind.
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@Jaloopa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@ben_lubar said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
is there a single person who goes "I want to extort people, let me check real quick whether that's legal"
It’s much like when I took a plane to the USA in the 1990s: everybody who didn’t have an American passport had to fill out a form that had a number of questions (seven, I think), all of which were variations on “Are you planning on breaking the law during your visit to the USA?” Oh, and it helpfully included a line to explain that answering “yes” to any of the questions could be reason for not admitting you to the country.
Isn't the idea of that that it's easier to deport someone for lying on their form than for actually doing or planning a lot of these things? It's not like they actually expect people to say yes
I could imagine it closes a jurisdiction gap - prosecuting someone for conspiring to break the law may be difficult if all of the actual conspiring happened abroad.
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@topspin said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@ben_lubar said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
is there a single person who goes "I want to extort people, let me check real quick whether that's legal"
It’s much like when I took a plane to the USA in the 1990s: everybody who didn’t have an American passport had to fill out a form that had a number of questions (seven, I think), all of which were variations on “Are you planning on breaking the law during your visit to the USA?” Oh, and it helpfully included a line to explain that answering “yes” to any of the questions could be reason for not admitting you to the country.
Nowadays they ask if you've committed genocide (and no, my grandpa didn't fall from the guard tower).
Unfortunately there is no line saying "Don't you think if I did, you'd know?!"The suspect, a former spokesman of the group who is in his early thirties, was in France on an Erasmus student visa and detained in the southern city of Marseille.
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
a (guns are legal). I'll just head to the local gun shop and buy an assault rifle.
I think there are few places where a minor can do this.
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@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
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@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
in my home town it is illegal for a moose to have sex with a statue (there's a statue of a moose in the town square) punishable by a fine of up to 5 dollars (it's an OOOOOLD law back from the times that was a lot of money)
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
one of my college friends lives in a town where it is illegal to place your bed along the north wall of any room, punishable by.... the punishment isn't actually specified in the law so..... it's illegal but there's no punishment?
and there's a town near where i grew up where it is illegal for a homeowner to paint their shutters the same color as their siding. punishable by a dollar fine for every day that the offense is not corrected once notification has been served.
there are a lot of weird laws around
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
in my home town it is illegal for a moose to have sex with a statue (there's a statue of a moose in the town square) punishable by a fine of up to 5 dollars (it's an OOOOOLD law back from the times that was a lot of money)
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
one of my college friends lives in a town where it is illegal to place your bed along the north wall of any room, punishable by.... the punishment isn't actually specified in the law so..... it's illegal but there's no punishment?
and there's a town near where i grew up where it is illegal for a homeowner to paint their shutters the same color as their siding. punishable by a dollar fine for every day that the offense is not corrected once notification has been served.
there are a lot of weird laws around
Banning the holding of signs is a quite different category than weird. More akin to banning petitions. And this was an attempt at a new law, not one inherited from colonial times.
I also like when the county sends out emails sponsoring a rally on a contested issue.
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@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Banning the holding of signs is a quite different category than weird.
also likely unconstitutional. it would certainly cause me to start walking around down town carrying a sign that reads "This Sign is Illegal." on one side and "So What?" on the other.
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my home town
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@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my home town
no, but i'm not surprised there's more than one moose statue that has confused a bull in mating rut.
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
Let's do crimes.
Filed under: Judas Priest - Breaking the Law
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
Let's do crimes.
Filed under: Judas Priest - Breaking the Law
i'd love to!
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
Let's do crimes.
Filed under: Judas Priest - Breaking the Law
i'd love to!
Great.
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Fun fact: in my first playthrough, this quest randomly triggered while I was actively fighting a dragon. IIRC the questgiver got cooked by dragonfire a few seconds later.
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my currently living in town it's illegal for a man to tickle a woman with a feather duster, punishable by a fine of three guineas. (another old law)
Let's do crimes.
Filed under: Judas Priest - Breaking the Law
i'd love to!
Great.
/me takes item
Oh! Hello officers! He went thataway. -points helpfully, but in the wrong direction-
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@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
Of course. Don't you know signs are assault weapons?
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
this quest randomly triggered
Thieves' Guild? I've never seen that, but I've deliberately avoided anything related to them.
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@HardwareGeek said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
Of course. Don't you know signs are assault weapons?
Only if used properly. Vampires are usually involved.
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@HardwareGeek said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
this quest randomly triggered
Thieves' Guild? I've never seen that, but I've deliberately avoided anything related to them.
@HardwareGeek said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
this quest randomly triggered
Thieves' Guild? I've never seen that, but I've deliberately avoided anything related to them.
Random encounter.
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@boomzilla said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Ransomware is a gun that can shoot you from another country.
it's also a gun that can shoot you and 100k other people when the trigger is pulled, without even aiming the gun. it's like a shotgun++
Shush you, or the NRA will start demanding the constitutional right to bear ransomware.
Proving that you know as much about the NRA as you do about guns?
What do you know about the National Ransomware Association?
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@dangeRuss said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@boomzilla said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Ransomware is a gun that can shoot you from another country.
it's also a gun that can shoot you and 100k other people when the trigger is pulled, without even aiming the gun. it's like a shotgun++
Shush you, or the NRA will start demanding the constitutional right to bear ransomware.
Proving that you know as much about the NRA as you do about guns?
What do you know about the National Ransomware Association?
They're in that other thread.
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@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Random encounter.
Huh. I wonder what the probability is. I have hundreds of hours in Skyrim and have lots of random encounters, but I don't I think I've ever encountered a fugitive. Or maybe I assumed he was hostile and offed him before he had a chance to say his dialog. Wouldn't be the first time I assumed hostility from someone who wasn't (yet) hostile. Or maybe I've just forgotten.
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@boomzilla said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@dangeRuss said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@boomzilla said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Ransomware is a gun that can shoot you from another country.
it's also a gun that can shoot you and 100k other people when the trigger is pulled, without even aiming the gun. it's like a shotgun++
Shush you, or the NRA will start demanding the constitutional right to bear ransomware.
Proving that you know as much about the NRA as you do about guns?
What do you know about the National Ransomware Association?
They're in that other thread.
Well, the Maryland local branch is at least.
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@HardwareGeek said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@error said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Random encounter.
Huh. I wonder what the probability is. I have hundreds of hours in Skyrim and have lots of random encounters, but I don't I think I've ever encountered a fugitive. Or maybe I assumed he was hostile and offed him before he had a chance to say his dialog. Wouldn't be the first time I assumed hostility from someone who wasn't (yet) hostile. Or maybe I've just forgotten.
I think he can die all by himself if you're unlucky. Skyrim has no bugs whatsoever.
I quit my 100% run at more than 80% when I realized the Dark Brotherhood had tricked me into murdering a questgiver.
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@jinpa said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@LaoC said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
A local US Democratic Party politician, Susan Lee of Montgomery County, is the bill's lead sponsor. She told a local news agency: "It's important to establish so criminals know it's a crime,"
Montgomery County is well known for its imaginative laws. My favorite is when they tried to ban the holding of signs on public streets.
I'd support that law. I'm sick and tired of seeing this for the first four months of every year
I mean, yeah, it's unconstitutional as fuck, but I don't care in this particular case.
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@The_Quiet_One "Liberty tax." An ironic name if there ever was one...
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@Mason_Wheeler said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@The_Quiet_One "Liberty tax." An ironic name if there ever was one...
You must pay a liberty tax in vigilance.
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@Mason_Wheeler As Google Images would put it:
https://img.jpcycles.com/zoom/446-032_A_V1.jpg
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my home town it is illegal for a moose to have sex with a statue (there's a statue of a moose in the town square) punishable by a fine of up to 5 dollars (it's an OOOOOLD law back from the times that was a lot of money)
Unless you live in an RPG, it's a lot of money for a moose or indeed any animal to carry
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@hungrier said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
in my home town it is illegal for a moose to have sex with a statue (there's a statue of a moose in the town square) punishable by a fine of up to 5 dollars (it's an OOOOOLD law back from the times that was a lot of money)
Unless you live in an RPG, it's a lot of money for a moose or indeed any animal to carry
i have no idea how the makers of the law intended the moose to pay..... at this point I assume that the moose what caused the whole ruckus was someone's pet or something..... and therefore the fine would be paid by the owner/caretaker
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
i have no idea how the makers of the law intended the moose to pay..... at this point I assume that the moose what caused the whole ruckus was someone's pet or something..... and therefore the fine would be paid by the owner/caretaker
Without bothering to read and comprehend all of this morass, it looks like in the Untied States, wild animals fall under the responsibilities of the state in question, so I suppose your city would have to have fined $5 to your state?
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@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
i have no idea how the makers of the law intended the moose to pay..... at this point I assume that the moose what caused the whole ruckus was someone's pet or something..... and therefore the fine would be paid by the owner/caretaker
Without bothering to read and comprehend all of this morass, it looks like in the Untied States, wild animals fall under the responsibilities of the state in question, so I suppose your city would have to have fined $5 to your state?
also possible.... tho the state would have just laughed at them when they presented the invoice.
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@levicki said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen They would laugh until city took a state representative, stripped them naked, and put them in the moose statue for a day or two.
Where the moose is really a Brazen Bull?
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@dcon said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@levicki said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Vixen They would laugh until city took a state representative, stripped them naked, and put them in the moose statue for a day or two.
Where the moose is really a Brazen Bull?
That works too...
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@levicki said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@dcon said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Where the moose is really a Brazen Bull?
Nah, I had something like this in mind -- NSFW.
Mark that as NSFL instead... Though "film written by Sacha Baron Cohen" would do as well.
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@Vixen said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
-cough- GDPR, CASL, CCPA, PROP65 -cough-
There is always somebody paying for any law. I don't believe in they just being technofobic
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@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@ben_lubar said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
is there a single person who goes "I want to extort people, let me check real quick whether that's legal"
It’s much like when I took a plane to the USA in the 1990s: everybody who didn’t have an American passport had to fill out a form that had a number of questions (seven, I think), all of which were variations on “Are you planning on breaking the law during your visit to the USA?” Oh, and it helpfully included a line to explain that answering “yes” to any of the questions could be reason for not admitting you to the country.
Years ago, when I was still having back issues, we visited Mexico. On the plane flight there they gave us a similar form to fill out on the plane. As I had medications prescribed to me in my carry-on there was a question that I legitimately should answer yes to. Something about narcotics or opiates So I fill it out and give it to the flight attendant. 10-15 minutes later she comes and gets me and asks me to come to the front of the plane.
"I see you answered yes to this question."
"Yes?"
"Are they medications prescribed to you? And do you have any that are not prescribed to you? Are they in their original containers?"
"Yes, no, yes. They are all prescribed to me. I have a bottle of Oxycodone in my carry-on for back issues I am having. All are legitimately mine."
-tears up original form- "I'm going to give you another form to fill out. Do with it what you wish, but unless you want Mexican drug enforcement to take you in to custody when you go through customs you might want to reconsider your answers."
"Won't I have anything to worry about if they find it in my luggage?"
"They won't check. If they do, say that you forgot about it. But they aren't worried so much about Americans smuggling things to Mexico. The enforcement occurs the other way. No one smuggles drugs to Mexico."Sure enough everything went fine. I called my doctor from Mexico and explained what happened. He suggested I flush them before my return flight and he would have another script waiting for me when I got back.
It was the only time in my life that I have felt like a drug mule.
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@Polygeekery said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
It was the only time in my life that I have felt like a drug mule.
I was made to feel like a drug mule almost every time I went through customs anywhere as an adult travelling on my own (not that I have for the better part of 20 years, though). I strongly suspect I’m one of those people whose general appearance causes them to always get picked for random luggage checks.
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@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
I strongly suspect I’m one of those people whose general appearance causes them to always get picked for random luggage checks.
So you're Muslim, or a hippie?
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@Polygeekery said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
I strongly suspect I’m one of those people whose general appearance causes them to always get picked for random luggage checks.
So you're Muslim, or a hippie?
Several years ago (2004-ish) we went to visit the grandparents, and there's this guy there. I saw him and immediately thought, "oh, he's one of Mom's friends from when they lived in Saudi Arabia as kids." Nope. Actually he was one of Mom's friends from when they lived in Spain as kids. (Considering how long Spain spent under Moorish occupation back in the day, this isn't surprising.)
He was catching up with everyone. Apparently he's doing well for himself, working in the Guardia Civil now. But he mentioned how he had recently taken a trip to France, and he got stopped by the gendarmes at the border for an inspection. He showed them his Guardia Civil badge and basically said "I'm on your side", and they let him through. They were like "sorry, you sort of had that look to you," and he was very understanding about it because... well... he really does.
This whole time he's telling this story, I'm just sitting there thinking "wow, this would have gone sooooo differently in the US..."
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@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
always get picked for random luggage checks.
Without fail I can attest a mandatory screening because I carry five laptops. This year I'm taking it down to two.
We'll see if that's low enough...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
always get picked for random luggage checks.
Without fail I can attest a mandatory screening because I carry five laptops. This year I'm taking it down to two.
We'll see if that's low enough...
For our agility shows, the judges almost always get picked. Somehow carrying a large quantity of paper is very suspicious. (They have to take all the scribe sheets from the show - that can be in excess of 1000 sometimes.)
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
We'll see if that's low enough...
should be. I've done 2 before with no problem.
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@Polygeekery said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@Gurth said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
I strongly suspect I’m one of those people whose general appearance causes them to always get picked for random luggage checks.
So you're Muslim, or a hippie?
Neither, and this was mostly before Muslims became “the enemy” so that wouldn’t have been an issue anyway. It’s just having the kind of face I do and (I suppose) my habit of wearing a camouflage jacket and carrying the stuff I needed on my holiday in a military surplus rucksack that seemed to be enough reason for customs officers to think I was either using or smuggling drugs, or probably both.
Edit: Oh, and there’s the funny bit of an American customs officer becoming highly suspicious of me when she questioned me about how much money I had with me.
Do you have any American money?
Yes, a hundred dollars. (I’d gotten that from a bank back home, which is why I had exactly that amount on me and could state it accurately.)
Just a hundred? Do you have a credit card?
Yes.
How many?
One. (And thinking: WTF kind of question is that? Most people around where I come from have none at all.)
Hmm … starts having a look on her face of “Why would I let a bum like you into our fine country?”
My bank card works in ATMs here.
Okay, you can go through.
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@dcon said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Somehow carrying a large quantity of paper is very suspicious.
A solid block of anything is suspicious. I got extra screening for a block of Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory fudge. With walnuts.
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@Polygeekery said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
It was the only time in my life that I have felt like a drug mule.
Did you ever figure out whether taking your prescribed medication with you was actually legal? My gut feeling would be that you probably actually broke Mexican law and could have been in serious trouble.
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@dfdub said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
My gut feeling would be that you probably actually broke Mexican law and could have been in serious trouble.
The flight attendant essentially said as much, but also said there was no chance I would be caught or prosecuted because no one smuggles drugs in to Mexico.
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@HardwareGeek said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
@dcon said in Maryland outlaws ransomware. What could possibly go wrong?:
Somehow carrying a large quantity of paper is very suspicious.
A solid block of anything is suspicious. I got extra screening for a block of Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory fudge. With walnuts.
What our judges were told is that it looks a lot like a big stack of money.
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@dcon Fudge looks like plastic explosive. Or so said one of the Thousands Standing Around.
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@HardwareGeek You should've put it in a small case with a digital clock and a bunch of random wires stuck in it