Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Stuff like removing OneDrive files from the disk so they're only available online
How does this work with adding new files to Onedrive? Copy them to the Onedrive folder, they're uploaded to Onedrive and then deleted from the local Onedrive folder?
Good question. Fill up your disk with porn and try it and see.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
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@pie_flavor
I would merely suggest that me and possibly some other folks 'round here have a chronic lack of capacity to become excited about things such as these (allegedly) new features.The point in one's life where one stops giving a fsck and is sick of shyte like this is commonly known as midlife crisis, but is in fact not related to age and doesn't have any passable duration. For example, many cats become like this at about two to four weeks old.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
Have you updated to 1809?
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Fill up your disk with porn and try it and see.
I'm not trusting my filth to Microsoft.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
Have you updated to 1809?
I have. I posted in the status thread when I did it.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
forty gigabytes,
My bad.
https://i.imgur.com/hjYp6xT.png
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
Have you updated to 1809?
I have. I posted in the status thread when I did it.
Then you were lucky. The 2 machines where I had files in Downloads now have 0 files in Downloads.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Then you were lucky.
Don't you know? He never has any problem with Windows
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
Have you updated to 1809?
I have. I posted in the status thread when I did it.
Then you were lucky. The 2 machines where I had files in Downloads now have 0 files in Downloads.
Keep in mind my downloads folder is located in D:, with a junction in the correct location pointing at it. This probably has something to do with it if you're right.
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@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Then you were lucky.
Don't you know? He never has any problem with Windows
Yet surprisingly, he has incredible issues on NodeBB. Simultaneously, no issues with Discourse.
Seeing a pattern?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Then you were lucky.
Don't you know? He never has any problem with Windows
Yet surprisingly, he has incredible issues on NodeBB. Simultaneously, no issues with Discourse.
Seeing a pattern?
He must be cross-posting from a reality that's only slightly out-of-phase with our own, but close enough for forum posts to leak across.
Filed Under: NodeBB inter-dimensional access plugin
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Fill up your disk with porn and try it and see.
I'm not trusting my filth to Microsoft.
I run it inside VirtualBox VM and trust Oracle instead
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Yet surprisingly, he has incredible issues on NodeBB.
Shared by most people.
Simultaneously, no issues with Discourse.
In its current iteration, from a non-loony standpoint.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
trust Oracle
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I run it inside VirtualBox VM and trust Oracle instead
I can't upvote that. I want to downvote!
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@dcon
Whatever I'm doing wrong, remember that @pie_flavor probably does way worse. Do you want that kind of downvote on your conscience?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Zerosquare
And that'll be the last of your files, while we're at it.(https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/9l128k/warning_1809_upgrade_misplaceddeleted_files_in/)
So not everyone got those, "Your files are right where you left them" messages, eh?
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Magus said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit You do know they're a software company, right?
: I DON'T CARE ABOUT
THE BUGSthose dumb user's files!!! IT'S <date>, SHIPITFTFY
I didn't lose my files. But Visual Studio broke. Because my user profile shortname went away. Which means TMP/TEMP now has n
Well, that’s not
Microsoft’sWindows’ fault, that’s a Visual Studio WTF. Like, seriously?Although I better don’t complain, I have to use Qt (which still has spaces-in-file-name bugs in this decade) together with the VC++ compiler. Better not jinx anything.
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Cortana, haven't you been paying attention?
Cortana got the same treatment as Siri. Disabled as soon as possible.
I switched mine to male voice for navigation and sometimes set timers.
Oh, you’re talking about on the desktop?? Lol, nope, that’s disabled.
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@topspin said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Oh, you’re talking about on the desktop?
Mobile too.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
For example, many cats become like this at about two to four weeks old.
This post is gold.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Stuff like removing OneDrive files from the disk so they're only available online
How does this work with adding new files to Onedrive? Copy them to the Onedrive folder, they're uploaded to Onedrive and then deleted from the local Onedrive folder?
Good question. Fill up your disk with porn and try it and see.
NARRATOR: Upon which Windows decided to remove everything else but the porn.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
removing some temporary files
I don't consider files in my Downloads directory to be temporary. They're gone now. (But they left the directories - and only the directories - the files are gone all the way down. And NO FUCKING WARNING.)
My downloads directory is about forty gigabytes, and my disk is 99.8% full, and nothing's gotten deleted.
Have you updated to 1809?
I have. I posted in the status thread when I did it.
Then you were lucky. The 2 machines where I had files in Downloads now have 0 files in Downloads.
Which edition -- Home, Pro, etc.?
I installed 1809 Pro Workstation yesterday and cleanup is off by default
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@topspin said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Upon which Windows decided to remove everything else but the porn.
That would be the best outcome
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Then you were lucky. The 2 machines where I had files in Downloads now have 0 files in Downloads.
Sounds like a driver issue, stop using linux hardware
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I updated my desktop last night. No issues, all my files are just where I left them. VS2017 Community starts up just fine.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I updated my desktop last night. No issues, all my files are just where I left them. VS2017 Community starts up just fine.
Starting wasn't the issue. Mine failed when it tried linking the manifest. (C++ compile)
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Tangential, re: universal applications :
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I updated my desktop last night. No issues, all my files are just where I left them. VS2017 Community starts up just fine.
Starting wasn't the issue. Mine failed when it tried linking the manifest. (C++ compile)
I have exactly 0 C++ projects, so
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Upgraded this afternoon. System's still working OK so far; I didn't lose any files that I can tell and my applications (including the Adobe applications and various versions of Visual Studio) are working. 1809 doesn't have anything I care much about (notably, the things @pie_flavor listed) but at least I have an updated USB install drive.
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@Zerosquare said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Magus said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I think you're wrong there. They just have a different goal than you for their UX (inb4 @TimeBandit comes in and says "And all humans") - they want a design that works anywhere: Desktop, Phone, VR, AR, Tablets, anything. And they've actually done well at that. You can write an app that works in any of those scenarios. No one else is even trying.
I know that's what they're trying to achieve. But they've been trying to do that since Windows 8.0 (which was released 6 years ago), and while there's been some improvement, the result is still lackluster compared to previous versions of Windows.
Windows has been through at least two changes of direction since they started down that path (after Ballmer was removed and this year when they broke up the Windows group) and it's eroded any real push in that direction. Hope you like webapps.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Fill up your disk with porn
Are you really expecting us to believe your disk isn't already porn filled?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
he has incredible issues on NodeBB. Simultaneously, no issues with Discourse.
Also IP, software licensing and laws work differently
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@Luhmann said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Fill up your disk with porn
Are you really expecting us to believe your disk isn't already porn filled?
It's still got 0.2% free space, so technically it's not.
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@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Magus I was under the impression they're a hardware company
Indeed. They've been a hardware company since 1980.
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@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Magus said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
hey want a design that works anywhere: Desktop, Phone, VR, AR, Tablets, anything.
On the phone they don't make anymore?
They basically do a reskinning for Android and that would let them do a large fraction of what you'd get with a full Phone OS from the user's perspective (with appropriate other app choices too). A few things won't fit into that, such as the kernel, system settings app and Store/installer mechanisms, but those are the least exciting parts in many ways (and having access to a large number of third party apps is a good plan if you want to attract users).
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
The whole situation is weird.
When you consider the number of PCs sold very year, and Microsoft's market share, it means that Microsoft is guaranteed to sell somewhere around 220 million copies of Windows every year.
Guaranteed sales. It doesn't matter what "features" Microsoft adds to Windows. They're still going to sell the same number of copies. So why go to all the trouble to make Windows worse and worse?
Fix bugs, patch security flaws and add support for new hardware. Other than that, leave it the fuck alone.
"Oh, damn, I can't do that on Windows 7. I need a Windows 10 machine to do that."
Something that literally no person has ever said.
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@Magus said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I think you're wrong there. They just have a different goal than you for their UX (inb4 @TimeBandit comes in and says "And all humans") - they want a design that works anywhere: Desktop, Phone, VR, AR, Tablets, anything. And they've actually done well at that. You can write an app that works in any of those scenarios. No one else is even trying.
If you engineer a system that works in all of those scenarios compromises have to be made. If you try to do everything you end up doing nothing well. That is how I would describe the UI/UX of Windows 10. It is absolute shit.
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@mott555 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Office 2000 had that, IIRC. Finally making a comeback, I see.
The next Windows 10 update has Clippy.
Clippy got renamed to Cortana.
Good call.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
So you like your girls disabled, huh?
I like my girls like my coffee. White, hot, and always getting my name wrong.
Hot, black, sweet and preferably fair-trade.
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@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Black, sweet and preferably fair-trade.
Racist
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@TimeBandit I like to think of myself more as a humorist.
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@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
So you like your girls disabled, huh?
I like my girls like my coffee. White, hot, and always getting my name wrong.
Hot, black, sweet and preferably fair-trade.
Not ground up and in the freezer?
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@boomzilla that comes later.
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@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
Apparently he was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried at some point.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
Apparently he was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried at some point.
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I tried installing this on my desktop through Windows Update. After doing stuff for a while, Windows wanted a restart. After rebooting, it informed me that the update failed. So I tried again.
Rinse and repeat, same result.
I ran Disk Clean-up, freeing up some disk space. When I subsequently retried, the 1809 update was no longer offered.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯