Florida Man goes to...
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@boomzilla said in Florida Man goes to...:
Acute mercury exposure
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... California with a dog and an RV!
http://www.fox5ny.com/home/police-pursuing-rv-in-the-porter-ranch-area
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@lolwhat said in Florida Man goes to...:
... California with a dog and an RV!
http://www.fox5ny.com/home/police-pursuing-rv-in-the-porter-ranch-area
Well, it was Tampa Avenue, so I guess it still counts as Florida.
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@boomzilla Are they Ninja Turtles? If so, WE'RE IN TROUBLE!!!!
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@dcon said in Florida Man goes to...:
@boomzilla Are they Ninja Turtles? If so, WE'RE IN TROUBLE!!!!
I was listening to this when I read your comment. (for the second time. I had already seen it yesterday)
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...a wedding.
I wonder what percent of wedding crashers do get busted. If he had been more reserved, he might not have been caught.
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@jinpa said in Florida Man goes to...:
I wonder what percent of wedding crashers do get busted. If he had been more reserved, he might not have been caught.
There is a rose garden close to where I grew up, and every week-end in spring/summer you can see weddings going there with all the guests for photo shoots. We've always joked that we should all dress up nicely, and make a contest of who manages to get in the most wedding pictures (without getting caught, of course). It's probably even easier to do nowadays as you should be able to casually ask for the facebook page or whatever on which photos will be and check later.
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@boomzilla said in Florida Man goes to...:
blows through traffic
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tampering with evidence
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Cops claimed they “observed something white rolling around in (Koppenhoefer’s) mouth”
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No Florida (Wo)Man for me. :(
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@admiral_p she looks too old for you anyways.
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@boomzilla In that picture, at least, she looks too old for anybody who's still breathing.
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@HardwareGeek said in Florida Man goes to...:
@boomzilla In that picture, at least, she looks too old for anybody who's still breathing.
On the upside, probably no teeth.
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@HardwareGeek I bet, without having seen the picture, that she's like 25, which is 75 in crack years.
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@TimeBandit yeah, she does look a bit too old for me.
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@admiral_p said in Florida Man goes to...:
she looks a bit too old for me.
She looks too old even for boomzilla
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@TimeBandit Is he still breathing?
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@HardwareGeek hang on, lemme check.
Yep.
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@TimeBandit said in Florida Man goes to...:
@admiral_p said in Florida Man goes to...:
she looks a bit too old for me.
She looks too old even for boomzilla
Or @HardwareGeek, but only just barely.
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TAMPA — A man accused of shooting his two roommates Friday in a Tampa Palms apartment told police he shared neo-Nazi beliefs with the men until he converted to Islam then killed them because they showed disrespect for his faith.
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@boomzilla said in Florida Man goes to...:
suspect-tells-police-he-killed-roommates-for-disrespecting-his-muslim-faith/2324756
TAMPA — A man accused of shooting his two roommates Friday in a Tampa Palms apartment told police he shared neo-Nazi beliefs with the men until he converted to Islam then killed them because they showed disrespect for his faith.
"Arthurs told police he had become angry about the world's anti-Muslim sentiment and 'wanted to bring attention to his cause.'"
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@jinpa said in Florida Man goes to...:
"Arthurs told police he had become angry about the world's anti-Muslim sentiment and 'wanted to bring attention to his cause.'"
Oops. Attention: Sentiment justified.
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@boomzilla That's not too far away. It's not a horrible part of town, either. Except for the ex-neo-nazi-turned-islamic-extremist.
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...buy a 1-foot wide strip of land
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@hungrier said in Florida Man goes to...:
...buy a 1-foot wide strip of land
Darn, not quite wide enough for a regeneration alcove. But I bet a scooter would park there just fine!
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@hungrier said in Florida Man goes to...:
...buy a 1-foot wide strip of land
property-one-foot-wide.html
The author seems to think there might be grounds for voiding the sale.
"it might make sense to rescind the contract on the grounds of “unilateral mistake,” since it seems clear the buyer had no idea what he was actually getting into, and that is at least partly the county’s fault. "
"Adverse possession might also be a possibility, if the villa owners have been there long enough. Presumably somebody’s been mowing the grass, thus exercising open and obvious control over that part of the one-foot-wide domain. If that argument works, then the county had nothing to sell in the first place and the strip would effectively have been merged into the larger properties."
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@jinpa Yeah, I can't imagine this being a good-faith sale. And that's kinda a requirement for a meeting of the minds.
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@jinpa said in Florida Man goes to...:
Presumably somebody’s been mowing the grass, thus exercising open and obvious control over that part of the one-foot-wide domain. If that argument works, then the county had nothing to sell in the first place and the strip would effectively have been merged into the larger properties.
TIL All I might need to do in order to claim property is to take care of it...
One minute, looking for abandoned properties...
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@Tsaukpaetra That used to be a part of squatting laws, in the UK at least. If you occupied a property for a certain time, and looked after it, you got to keep it. Prior to that the owner could take legal action to repossess, but if they didn't the property was assumed to be abandoned and the owner no longer wanted it. This is similar to the laws on debt. If no enforcement action is taken to recover the debt for six years, the debt is no longer owed (subject to certain provisos and conditions). As far as I know the debt one is still valid, but the squatting one has been overturned.
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@Seppen said in Florida Man goes to...:
@Tsaukpaetra That used to be a part of squatting laws, in the UK at least.
This is also still law in France (source: a property lawyer that I know fairly well). If you occupy/use/maintain (i.e. have all the external signs of acting like the owner) a property for 30 years, with the actual owner knowing and not opposing it, then it is yours. The important bit is that the owner must be aware of it.
It came up in my case when my mother sold her flat in a big house. The central heating is common to all flats and the boiler is located in one cellar room that actually belongs to another flat, but the owners agreed years ago (more than 30!) to have the boiler located there, and maintained etc. by the residents' association. They've obviously known it for years and never complained (and probably even paid the land tax associated to it, although since it's lumped with the rest of their tax bill and for a cellar it's probably peanuts, it's hard to be sure how aware they might have been of that), so if they were to do it now (which the new buyer was a bit preoccupied they might, especially since those other owners are prone to raise hell for tiny things), the residents' association could claim ownership of the room under that law.
(and there is a good reason I know that the property lawyer was really sure of the law in that case as he was himself the concerned buyer!)
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@remi I think 30 years was also the duration required in the UK, although it wasn't necessary for the owner to be aware of it. If you can occupy a property for 30 years without the owners even noticing, it's clear that the property has been abandoned by the owner and they no longer want it. However, this was changed a while ago. The law was changed here in 2012, making entering a private property without consent of the owner a criminal offence.
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@Seppen I think the "being aware of (and not opposed to) it" part actually makes the law more consensual. I agree that if you can occupy for that long without being noticed (by the owner) it means the owner likely doesn't care. OTOH, it sometimes happen that people simply don't know that they own some piece of land (typically with complex inheritance cases or weird boundary issues kind of like the one that started this discussion) and they could complain long after that they ended up loosing their property because of that -- even if they did not know they had it, but you know human nature, when has that ever prevented someone from complaining? It also probably helps with long-running disputes, like neighbours who forever bicker about who owns that strip of land, and it never escalate to a real court order but it's never settled: without that clause, there would be an incentive to dig your heels in someone's else garden and in the long term you'll end up stripping them of bits of their land even if they oppose it.
So to me it makes sense to have this restriction, it means that the owner is (in theory) more unlikely to contest the change of ownership.
(and of course this law does not apply if e.g. you pay a rent to the owner, or otherwise act as a tenant while the owner still acts as the owner! But I'm sure in practice this law is probably never used except in cases where nobody really cares until the day e.g. someone requires a proper property title for some reason and finds out that it's the "wrong" name that's on it...)
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@remi This is massively exacerbated in the UK because there is no definitive land register, and what little there is is administered by a now privatised company which charges extortionate fees for access to their data. While a private individual may have a physical deed for an area of land locked away somewhere, the government (or anybody else) has no database of these so unless the owner reports it there is no way of discovering who actually owns the land.
This needs fixing, drastically. In my opinion, the government should declare that all property deeds not recorded in an official database will be invalid, and the land will revert to the state. They can allow 5 years for any unrecorded deeds to be registered, which should be plenty of time for even such as the Duke of Westminster to report all the land he legally owns. This then paves the way for some form of land ownership tax if the government decides to go that way, and if they don't it at least means that we can find out who owns a particular piece of land, and therefore hold them to account for any illegality involving it.
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@Seppen Even if the database was collated, it would be useless if the owner(s) of a piece of land can't be definitely identified in a way that doesn't go stale when people do as they do and go die. So it needs a database of citizens (and/or residents) to go with it, with known family relationships, and updates from the department of birth- and death certificates.
And all of this leads to ID Cards (tm), which will cause the attempt to be shot down.
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Alabama man and his methed-out attack squirrel sidekick
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@acrow Any change of ownership due to death will necessarily be included in inheritance. In order for it to actually transfer ownership, the physical deed at least must be passed over, otherwise the new owner would have no way to prove ownership. Changing ownership records in a physical database is no more intrusive oe onerous than this. ID cards are irrelevant. If ownership of a piece of land is contested, and it turns out the person listed has been dead for over a year (arbitrary period allowed to update records, prior to this period, whoever was responsible for administering the inheritance would be asked to provide the necessary evidence) then the property reverts to the State.
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@Seppen The database of citizens (with unique identifiers like, say, NI number) helps in the situation where a piece of land is registered to John Smith of London, who probably changed his phone number since registering the deed, and has moved addresses at least once.
It'd also help prevent ID forgery, but that conversation's already been had.
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@acrow When the conversation was held, more than a decade ago now, it was to a large extent hijacked by those who benefit the most from the current system. It was also presented as an authoritarian solution to help defend against terrorism which gave those arguing against a huge advantage. The proper conversation, presenting it as an aid when citizens are oppressed by the State, has never been held. Post-Windrush scandal, the arguments for a national database of citizens and welcome non-citizens has become much stronger. Time to hold that conversation again.
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@acrow said in Florida Man goes to...:
@Seppen Even if the database was collated, it would be useless if the owner(s) of a piece of land can't be definitely identified in a way that doesn't go stale when people do as they do and go die. So it needs a database of citizens (and/or residents) to go with it, with known family relationships, and updates from the department of birth- and death certificates.
I agree. We have all that in France, because of a strong centralisation tendency across the last 2 (or more) centuries, so whenever someone dies the heirs have a few months to declare that officially (in terms of estate, not in terms of the actual dead body and death certificate), which means the database of deeds can be kept relatively up-to-date. We have all the systems in place so that when someone dies, their birth certificate gets amended, the information passed to the tax authorities who then can monitor whether proper updating of deeds etc. registered with them is done or not (not that they do it perfectly all the time...) (and whether proper inheritance taxes are paid which is more likely what they really only care about!).
But this goes hand-in-hand with said tradition of centralisation, where people are used to such databases (whether in numerical format or not), and various levels of safeguards have been added, tested and accepted across the years (the actual effectiveness of those vary, but the point is that the system did not spawn into existence in its current state from nothing, it was built incrementally with back-and-forths and changes and tweaks all along the way). Starting a new system of that kind from scratch is, nowadays, very difficult, especially in a country (the UK) that does not have this same tradition.
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@Seppen I meant that there was a conversation here on TDWTF forums about it. I think it was last year. Or maybe the year before. ...What, are you really, actually, holding hopes of a public dialogue, an honest to God conversation, of something meaningful and politically relevant, in this day and age? For if so, then I shall laugh at your face, good sir.
@remi Estonia sprung up their Electronic Citizenship (tm) in record time, relatively recently. (And then had to get the electronic ID cards changed over an encryption issue.) And India has been issuing ID cards, last I heard. So it's not totally unheard of to magic one out of thin air. Time will tell how much the new systems need correction, though.
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added "laugh"
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@acrow It's perfectly possible to have a public dialogue about meaningful stuff. Ireland recently had one about abortion laws, which went very well. In fact, thinking about it some form of Citizen's Assembly mechanism for any major changes would be a very good idea and should be compulsory before any referenda on constitutional changes. This whole Brexit debacle would have been avoided by that. Even if the vote was still to Leave, the actual consequences and methods of that would be better defined, as well as the proposed future relationship with the EU. Then the 2 year Article 50 process could have been spent on preparing for the change. It would probably require a written constitution, because the Citizen's Assembly would then be tied to any changes in that.
I agree that's unlikely in the UK. Most of the country is still too tied to forelock-tugging, and looking up to their supposed 'betters'. It's just more evidence of how run-down a once great country has become. We don't have a functioning democracy any more, and any attempt to update it runs aground because inherited wealth has FAR too much power in this country and any improvement to democracy is a threat to them. This doesn't mean we should stop pushing for better governance though.
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@acrow said in Florida Man goes to...:
@remi Estonia sprung up their Electronic Citizenship (tm) in record time, relatively recently. (And then had to get the electronic ID cards changed over an encryption issue.) And India has been issuing ID cards, last I heard. So it's not totally unheard of to magic one out of thin air. Time will tell how much the new systems need correction, though.
I don't know those countries well enough, but I'd be surprised if those schemes were going against the public mood. They might have been opposed by some (and likely were, nothing is ever unanimously accepted), but I suspect most opposition were on various degrees of implementation details, not on the very basic and abstract idea of having ID cards. I'm almost certain that Estonia must already have had some form of ID card before, the new bit was the "electronic" part (and what it opened in terms of possible uses), not the idea of a central register of citizens. It's definitely not the same for e.g. ID cards in the UK.
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Why is this shit in "Florida Man goes to..." Everyone knows that the trailer park owns the land.