Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN
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@mott555 I mean that was a joke in Independence Day, but I don't think it ever really happened.
(Enters huge Area 51 facility.)
"How do you pay for all of this?"
"You don't really think the Army pays $5000 for a toilet seat, do you?"
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@boomzilla My only interaction with the VA has been at the cemeteries they maintain, which I guess are "health care" of a sort.
Mine, too, but I suspect those budgets don't fall under the health box.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
That's all a ruse to spend more on cowboy poetry.
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@boomzilla You can't buy cowboy poetry.
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@Gribnit said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@boomzilla You can't buy cowboy poetry.
Harry Reid can.
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@boomzilla Nope. You can't just buy a book full of words from cowboy poetry and say you've bought you some cowboy poetry.
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@sockpuppet7 We've discussed this before, if you look at that amount percentage-wise, it's an appropriate amount of money to spend researching UFOs.
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@Gribnit said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@boomzilla Nope. You can't just buy a book full of words from cowboy poetry and say you've bought you some cowboy poetry.
I'd make fun of you for pretending not to understand figurative language but since this is blakey's thread I think it should be a safe space for that sort of thing.
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@mott555 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
As far as I know, my state (Nebraska) is the only state that splits electoral votes up by congressional district.
Nope. Maine does as well.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Yeah, isn't it amazing that the US military has an interest in what might be flying over the country?
Protip: "UFO" does not mean "Space Alien"
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@Dragnslcr Even if it did mean the big-eyed alien type of UFOs, $22 million for the military is like 0.0001% of their budget. That's about the amount of effort the study should take.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And BTW, he was totally right about Germany's dependence on Russian energy. He's an idiot, but he's not wrong all the time.
Broken clocks and everything, but that strongly depends on what you want "dependence" to mean.
Are we buying natural gas from Russia? Yes, sure. We're buying lots of stuff from lots of places. No country is completely closed and self-sustaining. Does that mean we're at Russia's mercy and they can blackmail us to do whatever? No way at all. Surely they would have "forced" us to lift the sanctions imposed on Russia already otherwise. They have, by the way, always been a very reliable provider of energy.But of course Trump on one day worries about Germany's dependence on Russian gas, and the next day names Europe your enemy and Russia their best buddy. Business as insane as usual.
What's the alternative? Of course, instead of gas pipelines, Trump would rather see us buy way more expensive gas from the US, liquefied and literally shipped. But that's not because he cares about our "dependence on Russia", he'd rather see that dependence on the US and make some more money.
If Russia were to actually stop providing gas, we could still buy that gas you want to sell us instead.@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The US isn't just decentralized, it's also pretty self-contained.
Then what's the constant noise about all those things like the
CanadiansMexicansimmigrants stealing your jobs, the EU basically stealing from you by selling you things, China treating you unfairly, NATO, etc.?
If you were self-contained you wouldn't have to complain about your trade deficit to everybody who sells you anything.
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@topspin said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Then what's the constant noise about all those things like the CanadiansMexicansimmigrants stealing your jobs, the EU basically stealing from you by selling you things, China treating you unfairly, NATO, etc.?
You have really shitty media?
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@dfdub said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Yeah but other than paying taxes and renewing my passport once a decade, I don't interact with the Federal government... ever, basically.
You're still subject to its laws and represented by it on the international level. I mean, I get that the US is quite decentralized, but your attitude is still puzzling.
This is the part where I point out that laws in this country are not like laws of physics, but weapons that are invoked where convenient.
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@pie_flavor said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And lower your taxes
Jury's still out on that one until tax time next year. If I don't get the full benefit of deducting ~$8k in mortgage interest (and $11k next year), ~$2.5k in property taxes, plus state/local taxes as my forefathers have, I shall be mildly upset. Only mildly upset as I mapped out my financial situation without relying on tax deductions to stay afloat, much to the chagrin of my ex-realtor (who left a voice mail out of the blue a week ago to check up on me, still unaware that I bought a house without benefit of her services for about $100k less than the houses she was trying to sell me).
Why don't we start by removing your front door and see how it works on a small scale first.
The analogy falls apart when you realize there's never been a door to remove in the first place.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
But we're not talking about building a front door. We're talking about putting a silk rope across the doorway reading "please do not enter".
I'm not saying the wall is useless because we don't need to or shouldn't defend our border; I'm saying it's useless because it's super expensive and wouldn't keep anybody out of the country. (Well, it might keep some particularly honest people out, but it wouldn't help against the criminals it's ostensibly there for.)
That doesn't even mention that a large, large percentage of illegal immigration happens via. people traveling here legally (something no wall will prevent) and then overstaying their visas.
I tried this same line against the forum's right wing a week or two ago. Best of luck.
If Trump wants to help his base, what he should do is take all the concrete slated to build this wall and build non-level crossings for all the small towns in the US that right now need to virtually shut-down every time a freight train comes through and blocks their main streets, because they were built around a railroad. Use that concrete to build overpasses. That'd be worthwhile.
It amuses me to consider the contrapositive of this statement (i.e. "Trump hasn't built these crossings; therefore, he doesn't want to help his base.").
Although, the posturing and all the fuss over a handful of jobs at a Carrier plant was quite amusing, in spite of being a slap in the face to the people who are actually being hurt by manufacturing and coal-mining drying up and badly need retraining for an information-centric economy.
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@mott555 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I'd rather have a hydrofluoric acid enema than subject myself to the late night "comedy" shows.
Given that exposure to a single drop of that stuff can, if untreated, lead to heart failure (or even amputations if treated AND you're lucky), and that watching unpleasant late-night programming will be a temporary nuisance at worst, I think we can safely dismiss your comment as hyperbolic.
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@mott555 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Forget about the layers and layers and layers of incompetent management, and screw the vet who is $10K away from finishing college!
Gotta have those Benedict Arnold statues!
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@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I think we can safely dismiss your comment as hyperbolic.
Me? Hyperbole? NEVER!!
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@Gribnit If the South hadn't stolen Federal weapons and supplies and just left those forts alone peaceably, the North probably would have just let them go. One of those unexplored branches of history because, of course, the Southerners gunned-up and went on a drunken rampage. (Remember at the time there wasn't any law that says States could succeed but there also wasn't any law saying they couldn't. That came later.)
I used to work with a history buff who theorized that a peaceful separation would have had the CSA struggling for a few decades followed by an eventual reunification effort. Of course, the idea of two countries is an interesting thought experiment given the current polarized political landscape.
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@pie_flavor said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I have some beliefs that match up with the Democrat positions, and other that match up with the Republican positions. There's no "side" that includes me. And I'm sure that's true of most of the people in the US.
Mainstream TDS and the absolute derailment of the Democratic party leads me to predict, long-term, a return to multi-party politics. It's wishful thinking probably, but it could happen.
The Economist had an article a couple years ago imagining a parliamentary system with five major parties of roughly equal seats in Congress, split something like this:
- DemSocs (Bernie voters)
- Liberals (Clinton voters)
- Conservatives (Kasich voters)
- Religious Right (Cruz voters)
- Nationalists (Trump voters)
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@mott555 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I think we can safely dismiss your comment as hyperbolic.
Me? Hyperbole? NEVER!!
I mean, if Nurdrage, who has made several batches of NaCN in his
basement"lab" in addition to a host of other toxic/carcinogenic substances for his projects and yet won't touch HF, that should tell you something.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
How successful has the policy of getting large corps to bring money back from overseas? I haven't seen any article revisiting that in the last few months. Has it happened, or was it just a wishful thinking fantasy? Remember that was supposed to cover the revenue gap.
They've actually brought a fair amount of money back. But the vast majority of it has gone to stock buybacks and other financial manipulation, rather than long-term productive goals such as increased wages or strengthening the business's core infrastructure.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
He's also trying to punish States or cities for being "sanctuary", aka passing laws to prevent Federal immigration enforcement from using their police resources
If that's all that "sanctuary" meant, it would be much less of a problem than it is. But it's not. It actually means... well... the actual meaning of the word "sanctuary." They aren't just not working with the Federal government on illegal immigration; they are actively protecting illegal immigrants from the Federal government! And that is a massive problem. The last time we had major parts of the country acting in this kind of active defiance of the Federal government was during the Lincoln administration...
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@boomzilla said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
cowboy poetry
The Preacher's Horse is a classic and one of my favorites.
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@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Although, the posturing and all the fuss over a handful of jobs at a Carrier plant was quite amusing, in spite of being a slap in the face to the people who are actually being hurt by manufacturing and coal-mining drying up and badly need retraining for an information-centric economy.
The entire coal industry has fewer employees than JC Penney but Trump didn't shed a tear that JC Penney is going bankrupt.
@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I used to work with a history buff who theorized that a peaceful separation would have had the CSA struggling for a few decades followed by an eventual reunification effort.
That's about how I figure it too. They could have limped around for awhile, but eventually they would have rejoined (or tried to at least) the US. They just didn't have the industrial base to be successful. The only reason they did as well as they did in the war was because Lee was a genius and the north only had McClellan, who was great at organizing an army but lousy at actually doing anything with it and basically sat on his hands for years.
@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The Economist had an article a couple years ago imagining a parliamentary system with five major parties of roughly equal seats in Congress, split something like this:
Even they do not acknowledge the Ron Paul Revolution. Sigh.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
They aren't just not working with the Federal government on illegal immigration; they are actively protecting illegal immigrants from the Federal government!
That's not true. (I mean, if you have a cite, then make it.)
All it means, all it means, is that those cities or States aren't lending their police force to resources to ICE. And most of the time, it's the police themselves who promoted the idea because it sours their relationship with the communities they have to police.
But the thing is: States and cities aren't compelled to lend their resources to ICE in the first place. It's just like the NFL player kneeling at a game; the party that talks big about freedom getting all butthurt when someone actually practices their freedom.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The last time we had major parts of the country acting in this kind of active defiance of the Federal government was during the Lincoln administration...
Tell you what, when crazed Seattleites bash open the gates to the local Federal armory and steal all the weapons, then you'll have a point. We're not quite there yet.
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@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The analogy falls apart when you realize there's never been a door to remove in the first place
And thus we have an economy dependent on illegal Mexicans.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@topspin said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Then what's the constant noise about all those things like the CanadiansMexicansimmigrants stealing your jobs, the EU basically stealing from you by selling you things, China treating you unfairly, NATO, etc.?
You have really shitty media?
A response directly out of the Trump playbook.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Remember all the late night joke shows that got people foaming at the mouth ranting about Obamacare and then seconds later recorded them praising their coverage from the Affordable Care Act with absolutely no twinge of awareness that the two were the same thing.
No.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Also a border wall is useless, expensive, and stupid.
Tell that to Westeros.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
I frankly don't give much of a shit about the rest of the world.
Isn't that the american way?
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
That's not true. (I mean, if you have a cite, then make it.)
Guy was caught dealing heroin and cocaine. Has a long reputation as a drug dealer. Judge deliberately gives him a slap-on-the-wrist sentence specifically to avoid putting him at risk of deportation.
(The onebox says it all!)
Border patrol agents are refusing to hand over illegal immigrants with felony warrants to police in California because they can’t be sure local authorities will return the criminal aliens to federal custody, according to a top border security official in San Diego.
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Other California sanctuary laws have impacted the Border Patrol’s ability to locate illegal aliens, Scott says. One is Assembly Bill 450, a law enacted in October that, among other provisions, prevents businesses from granting border agents access to “nonpublic” areas of their property unless the agent has a judicial warrant.
Literally making it illegal under state law for private businesses to choose to cooperate with the Border Patrol. If that's not actively shielding illegal immigrants I don't know what is.
Oakland mayor tips off illegal immigrants to an upcoming ICE raid, resulting in hundreds escaping custody, including several who went on to commit violent crimes in the USA.
Illegal immigrant allegedly kills someone in a DUI crash. ICE says they want him; they let him go.
Denver and all other state agencies stopped honoring detainer orders from ICE in 2014
As I said, sanctuary means actively protecting illegal immigrants (including violent criminals!) from the Federal government.
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@Groaner said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@pie_flavor said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Why don't we start by removing your front door and see how it works on a small scale first.
The analogy falls apart when you realize there's never been a door to remove in the first place.
Is this where I congratulate you on carrying on blakey's tradition of failing at figurative language in his thread? But seriously, I've heard this sort of sentiment a lot but I don't understand why it doesn't work. It seems like you have to ignore all of the stuff we have at ports of entry, visas, immigration statuses, etc. It may have been a poorly secured door but it's definitely a door.
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@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Guy was caught dealing heroin and cocaine. Has a long reputation as a drug dealer. Judge deliberately gives him a slap-on-the-wrist sentence specifically to avoid putting him at risk of deportation.
OK. Am I supposed to feel outraged?
There's crazy judges everywhere. Judges have a lot of unilateral power to do stupid things. That has nothing to do with the sanctuary city debate and all that.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
(The onebox says it all!)
...? It says stuff, but I'm not sure how the stuff it says is relevant to the discussion.
The third article you didn't snark on: again, ok? So what? Am I supposed to feel outraged or something? Just like it's local law enforcement's right to not help ICE, it's also ICE's right to not hand over a criminal in their possession because some local law enforcement asks them too.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Literally making it illegal under state law for private businesses to choose to cooperate with the Border Patrol. If that's not actively shielding illegal immigrants I don't know what is.
Eh. That one is kind of silly. But, also, fuck California, I don't like those assholes any more than I like the Feds.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Oakland mayor tips off illegal immigrants to an upcoming ICE raid, resulting in hundreds escaping custody, including several who went on to commit violent crimes in the USA.
"escaping custody"? If they were in custody already, how would any tipoff been helpful anyway?
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Illegal immigrant allegedly kills someone in a DUI crash. ICE says they want him; they let him go.
Yeah; on a bond. That's how the criminal justice system works. And, BTW, Denver isn't even a sanctuary city in the first place, so this one's just totally irrelevant.
@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
As I said, sanctuary means actively protecting illegal immigrants (including violent criminals!) from the Federal government.
Only the California examples demonstrate that and, again, fuck California. Them assholes be crazy. None of your other examples demonstrate that. And only one of them includes a violent criminal.
@boomzilla said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
It seems like you have to ignore all of the stuff we have at ports of entry, visas, immigration statuses, etc. It may have been a poorly secured door but it's definitely a door.
And, something most wall supports ignore: a ton of illegal immigration happens via people who visit legally following all procedures then overstay. Walls can't prevent that.
Even if you do agree we need mega-strong border security, the wall is still a stupid way to accomplish that goal. Camera, motion trackers, and border stations every 30-50 miles are way better and simultaneously way cheaper.
If it's just a jobs program, there's a lot of better things we could be spending labor on, like fixing our 1930s infrastructure.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And BTW, he was totally right about Germany's dependence on Russian energy. He's an idiot, but he's not wrong all the time.
He doesn't earn respect. Results sometimes. But he's right about the nature of things a lot of times, in ways people want to pretend aren't true.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
If that's the kind of "Freedom of Speech" you're after, then count me out.
I mean the kind where you can put a Nazi flag in a video game without getting arrested.
This is just @Rhywden conflating "Freedom of Speech" with the consequence of opinions. One can be upset about something, without throwing the speaker in jail.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The only thing slightly more notable about Trump isn't that he's trying to sabotage everything, but that he's so goddamned blatant about it.
THANK YOU.
I thought I was alone on this.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Also a border wall is useless, expensive, and stupid.
Far far far cheaper than free college, though. And not entirely useless. You try flying into a country you were deported from.
@anonymous234 said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Those will continue to exist and will continue to fall for whatever "NATO is literally stealing money from our bank accounts
To be fair, UKers are protesting that Trump is violating their UK rights.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Single word response with no supporting details.
You two are arguing over semantics, when the real life current day results are the same.
It only happens to be that rural citizens are favored. There could be a small state with a single metropolis and no rural residents and they'd also get a larger per-capita voting power.
However, the distinction doesn't play out in our current population distribution. So, YMMV on whether the point is moot.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Well we would have voted for Sanders, but that primary "didn't count".
Neither party had a good primary.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
There's no "side" that includes me. And I'm sure that's true of most of the people in the US.
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The biggest problem for me at the moment is that neither party, like I said above, is fiscally conservative. (If anything, the Democrats are better at this even though they don't even claim this is part of their platform.)
Ehhhh...... not so sure.
Republican strategy is to cut taxes by 20% and raise spending by 20%.
Democrat strategy is to raise taxes by 20% and raise spending by 50%.It's a close call.
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@masonwheeler said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
As I said, sanctuary means actively protecting illegal immigrants (including violent criminals!) from the Federal government.
They say they don't protect violent criminals, but as is, that's completely up to them to define violent criminals, and to obscure any facts.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And, something most wall supports ignore: a ton of illegal immigration happens via people who visit legally following all procedures then overstay. Walls can't prevent that.
I'm more amused by the Republicans painting every illegal immigrant as a spawn of hell, and the Democrats painting every illegal immigrant as an angel from heaven.
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@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
To be fair, UKers are protesting that Trump is violating their UK rights.
They seem to have developed a right to not be offended, so I guess they're probably correct.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The entire coal industry has fewer employees than JC Penney but Trump didn't shed a tear that JC Penney is going bankrupt.
JCPenney employees don't vote as a group?
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@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And, something most wall supports ignore: a ton of illegal immigration happens via people who visit legally following all procedures then overstay. Walls can't prevent that.
I'm more amused by the Republicans painting every illegal immigrant as a spawn of hell,
Facts not in evidence. I see them claiming that
- illegal immigrants are committing crimes to live here (true, for some definition of crimes)
- some illegal immigrants are connected with violent gangs or are otherwise bad people (true).
- we should have fewer illegal immigrants (opinion).
None of those are a claim that every illegal immigrant is hell-spawn.
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@Polygeekery said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Remember all the late night joke shows that got people foaming at the mouth ranting about Obamacare and then seconds later recorded them praising their coverage from the Affordable Care Act with absolutely no twinge of awareness that the two were the same thing.
No.
But I do remember all the people asking where to sign up for free healthcare following the passing of ACA.
Stupid people are everywhere. It's not demonstrative of the complaints that groups of people put forth.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@sockpuppet7 We've discussed this before, if you look at that amount percentage-wise, it's an appropriate amount of money to spend researching UFOs.
Even if it's not, there's merit in spending money in being able to identify UFOs.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
And, something most wall supports ignore: a ton of illegal immigration happens via people who visit legally following all procedures then overstay. Walls can't prevent that.
I'm more amused by the Republicans painting every illegal immigrant as a spawn of hell,
Facts not in evidence. I see them claiming that
- illegal immigrants are committing crimes to live here (true, for some definition of crimes)
- some illegal immigrants are connected with violent gangs or are otherwise bad people (true).
- we should have fewer illegal immigrants (opinion).
None of those are a claim that every illegal immigrant is hell-spawn.
I was being facetious for the sake of both sides of the argument.
However, it does appear that way from time to time, or from the language of specific individuals.
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@boomzilla said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
To be fair, UKers are protesting that Trump is violating their UK rights.
They seem to have developed a right to not be offended, so I guess they're probably correct.
As in all offense based rights systems.
Claims of offense are first come first served.
So being perpetually offended is actually necessary for reasonable legal defense.
It's a self-perpetuating beast devouring all rational thought.
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@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Neither party had a good primary.
It was a joke about Washington State.
(Except I got it backwards. The one that DID count picked Sanders, the one that didn't picked Clinton.)
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@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
The entire coal industry has fewer employees than JC Penney but Trump didn't shed a tear that JC Penney is going bankrupt.
JCPenney employees don't vote as a group?
JCPenney wasn't regulated out of business by the government?
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@boomzilla said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
JCPenney wasn't regulated out of business by the government?
Oh bullshit. Coal was on the way out long before those regulations hit.
EDIT: hell they're lucky it lasted this long. If it weren't for crazy anti-nuclear hysteria (generally from the libs, who coal miners constantly own) those jobs would have all been gone in the 1970s.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
@xaade said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Neither party had a good primary.
It was a joke about Washington State.
(Except I got it backwards. The one that DID count picked Sanders, the one that didn't picked Clinton.)
Oh, yeah, there are so many s about the various ways the Democrats do Presidential primaries.
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@blakeyrat said in Re: In other news today... Rhywden is being an ANGRY GERMAN:
Guess so, but people in my State are, you know, educated, employed, have a solid heathcare option, etc.
Coastal elitist alert! You're disenfranchising the rural population with your smugness!