Welcome to the April Update!
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@pie_flavor If it's frozen, Alt-Tab will guaranteed cause the reset to deadlock. The window switch must be accomplished by actually clicking on the window. I now keep my Chrome window not-quite-maximized, where I can click behind it if I need to.
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@pie_flavor clicking on the taskbar isn't good enough to remove focus from it?
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@lb_ Nope. It's got to be a full window.
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Well, my desktop just said it wants to update to 1803...I think I'm going to take the plunge.
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@benjamin-hall Elapsed time: under 15 minutes to full system stability.
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@ben_lubar said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Oh god why did Microsoft decide to use 4-digit numbers for Windows 10 versions
It's actually one of the few things they've done in Windows 10 that actually makes sense. XXYY year month. 1803 = 2018 March.
And then they promptly fucked it up by releasing 1803 in April instead of March. And apparently can't be arsed to just go ahead and call it 1804.
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@benjamin-hall said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@benjamin-hall Oh... what happens in 2118 month 03? Are they banking on the idea that they'll have changed the scheme by then?
I think that if they're worried about Windows 10 being around then,
And Windows XP can't handle dates beyond 2080. Fucking piece of crap.
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@masonwheeler said in Welcome to the April Update!:
I'm still quite happily running it on hardware. I'll update when Microsoft makes a new OS that doesn't suck. So far, 7 is the last one to fulfill that requirement.
@hardwaregeek said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Eh. I've been using 10 every day at work for the last two years. Initially, I disliked it enough that I did not upgrade my home desktop from 7, but the main objection I had has been fixed, AFAICT, and the others I guess Stockholm Syndrome has set in. If the free upgrade were still available, at this point, I'd probably go ahead and do it.
I've always found Windows 10 to be absolutely horrid and unusable, but I have to admit, this latest one seems to suck a lot less and is almost close to being a replacement for Windows 7. Almost. It's not there yet, but it might actually be "close enough".
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@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
And then they promptly fucked it up by releasing 1803 in April instead of March.
Apparently the version date is not for the release date, but the build date. Because I suppose the release date would have been too easy.
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@erufael said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
And then they promptly fucked it up by releasing 1803 in April instead of March.
Apparently the version date is not for the release date, but the build date. Because I suppose the release date would have been too easy.
The build that was supposed to be 1803 may have been built in March, I don't remember, but what was actually released as 1803 was built in April.
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@el_heffe Yes, because of a BSOD issue. Hey, I didn't claim it was perfect! xD
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@erufael said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Thats because IIRC they removed the entire HomeGroup feature in 1803. It's no longer going to be a thing.
... Is there a replacement? It'd be nice if the kids could continue to print to the office printer from their machines, rather than having to bring their files to the office computer to print locally.
@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Oh... what happens in 2118 month 03?
Obviously, 2100 will mark the release of Windows 11.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@erufael said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Thats because IIRC they removed the entire HomeGroup feature in 1803. It's no longer going to be a thing.
... Is there a replacement?
As far as I know, no. Not beyond network shares, anyway.
Is the printer a network printer?
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@erufael Not currently, USB to the office computer. Have to see if I can network it, I guess.
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Sorry, forgot to come back to this. The result on my office computer was the same, though I donโt know how long it actually took, since I did it before leaving for the day. When I came back the next morning, I had to confirm a driver update and that was it.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@erufael said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Thats because IIRC they removed the entire HomeGroup feature in 1803. It's no longer going to be a thing.
... Is there a replacement? It'd be nice if the kids could continue to print to the office printer from their machines, rather than having to bring their files to the office computer to print locally.
I believe if you share your printer you just need to get your kid's computers to log in to that share using an account on that machine.
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@scarlet_manuka
https://www.staples.com/Iogear-Single-Port-USB2-0-Fast-Ethernet-Print-Server/product_IM1K16397?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:IM1K16397&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=IM1K16397&KPID=IM1K16397&cvosrc=pla.dotcom-sales-google.Printers %26 Scanners&cvo_crid=225642073851&cvo_campaign=951138642&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIupjlxvWD2wIVSb7ACh0EvwhmEAQYAyABEgJef_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.dsThis may also fit your needs - basically a general purpose network adapter for printers.
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@izzion Looks like the printer is networkable natively, so I should be OK there.
Bonus WTF: the manufacturer's manual isn't just a PDF you can download from their website, it's a fully-fledged application that you have to install. But hey, that makes total sense, because it has all sorts of advanced functionality that you can't get in a PDFยน, like... uh... a contents panel, and section links, and... uh...
ยน We all know this is a lie, Adobe wouldn't allow any type of active functionality to be not embeddable in a PDF.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
fully-fledged application that you have to install.
Screenshot?
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@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
it's a fully-fledged application that you have to install
Apart from the install part, that reminds me of the HL2 demo videos which were encoded with Bink and released as standalone .exe files with the player, decoder and video all packaged into the same file. Because encoding them in a format supported by any video player would have been too hard I guess.
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Windows seems to now enjoy playing me the last three or so notifications before playing me whichever one is actually new.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
fully-fledged application that you have to install.
Screenshot?
Not sure what exactly you wanted a screenshot of, but (names not censored because they deserve to be mocked):
License agreement for manual:
Manual in Start menu:
Manual application in action:
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@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@tsaukpaetra said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@scarlet_manuka said in Welcome to the April Update!:
fully-fledged application that you have to install.
Screenshot?
Not sure what exactly you wanted a screenshot of, but (names not censored because they deserve to be mocked):
License agreement for manual:
Manual in Start menu:
Manual application in action:
Wait, so it's a chm reader? Why the fuck...
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@scarlet_manuka Jesus fuck. Aren't there, like, formats for that? Pretty sure that is exactly what a CHM file looks like.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Wait, so it's a chm reader? Why the fuck...
You never know when Microsoft will drop CHM support? I dunno.
Also note that "How to Use This Manual" appears in the Advanced Guide, not the Basic Guide :)
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Well...
Let's see if it will explode this time...
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@onyx Well, after, I think, 4 reboots... it actually worked.
This new timeline thing is weird (well, to be honest, the icon is the weirdest part) but seems more useful than the previous iteration. However, since there's still no option to show all applications from all workspaces on the taskbar, and no "move window to another workspace" shortcut, I think I still won't use it...
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@onyx said in Welcome to the April Update!:
However, since there's still no option to show all applications from all workspaces on the taskbar, and no "move window to another workspace" shortcut, I think I still won't use it
Maybe one day, Microsoft will catch up to the level of usability of KDE
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First bluescreen of the year! Wheeeee!
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@pie_flavor said in Welcome to the April Update!:
First bluescreen of the year! Wheeeee!
Targeted OCR: Page fault in a non-paged area, caused by nvlddmkm.sys
Is you graphics card frequently restarting ("Windows has recovered blah blah blah")?
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@tsaukpaetra Nope. Chugs along sturdily, no matter how much work I pile on it.
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@pie_flavor said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@tsaukpaetra Nope. Chugs along sturdily, no matter how much work I pile on it.
Fun...
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Had another boot-to-black-screen incident this morning after turning on my computer from powered-off state (
shutdown /s /t 0
). I pressed the reset button and then it booted normally, chkdsk and sfc turn up nothing. No idea what the issue is or why it only happens sometimes.
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@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
No idea what the issue is or why it only happens sometimes.
It's an hardware issue, of course
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Update killed all virtual applications made with VMWare Thinstall ... again ...
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@onyx said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@onyx Well, after, I think, 4 reboots... it actually worked.
This new timeline thing is weird (well, to be honest, the icon is the weirdest part) but seems more useful than the previous iteration. However, since there's still no option to show all applications from all workspaces on the taskbar, and no "move window to another workspace" shortcut, I think I still won't use it...
The latter is still missing, but it looks like the first doesn't? I got this on my "Multitasking" settings screen:
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@jbert said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@onyx said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@onyx Well, after, I think, 4 reboots... it actually worked.
This new timeline thing is weird (well, to be honest, the icon is the weirdest part) but seems more useful than the previous iteration. However, since there's still no option to show all applications from all workspaces on the taskbar, and no "move window to another workspace" shortcut, I think I still won't use it...
The latter is still missing, but it looks like the first doesn't? I got this on my "Multitasking" settings screen:
Well fuck me sideways, they mended something!
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@luhmann said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Update killed all virtual applications made with VMWare Thinstall ... again ...
I thought they renamed it to ThinApp?
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@onyx said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@jbert said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@onyx said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@onyx Well, after, I think, 4 reboots... it actually worked.
This new timeline thing is weird (well, to be honest, the icon is the weirdest part) but seems more useful than the previous iteration. However, since there's still no option to show all applications from all workspaces on the taskbar, and no "move window to another workspace" shortcut, I think I still won't use it...
The latter is still missing, but it looks like the first doesn't? I got this on my "Multitasking" settings screen:
Well fuck me sideways, they mended something!
That option has been in Windows 10 from day 1, I remember posting about it and how awesome it was only to be told it was in Windows 8 too.
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@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
That option has been in Windows 10 from day 1, I remember posting about it and how awesome it was only to be told it was in Windows 8 too.
Ok, well, no one I know knew of it either.
MS, a small tip: when KDE's control center makes more sense and is easier to find stuff in than your settings, you done fucked up somewhere.
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@onyx I mean, right click on the taskbar -> Taskbar settings -> it's right there. Though it only shows up if you have multiple displays connected right at that moment, so it's easy to not know about if you never checked that screen with multiple displays connected.
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@lb_ Aren't you talking about this different group from the "Taskbar" settings screen?
I believe that has existed longer but that is not what we talked about here with virtual desktops. Also it's indeed disabled because I didn't have the second screen enabled.
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@lb_ I think you're thinking of a different feature. We're not talking about the taskb... Ok, no, fuck it, fuck confusing terminology which can mean two things. Let's fix this first.
This is what I'd call a taskbar. It's the list of my tasks, including the remaining horizontal space that can contain the rest of the tasks.
This is what all other desktop managers I'm aware of call a "panel" A panel contains multiple widgets, like the taskbar, the notification area (or is it the system tray again? I forget), and optionally other things. I know Windows doesn't call it that, but stick with it for now.
What you were talking about is the ability to show a panel (or, in Windows' case, THE panel, since it can only have one) on all screens. What I wanted, and what @JBert pointed me at, is the ability to show all tasks from all workspaces, or virtual desktops, whatever you want to call them, in the taskbar.
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@onyx @JBert Oops, you're totally right, disregard my posts. They are very similar-looking options, and I forgot virtual desktops even existed.
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Looks like Microsoft didn't test it with SSDs
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Speaking of disks...
Have I turned it on, or did you, Windows? You seem confused to me, buddy. Also, why did you pop this up a minute ago if it actually happened 3 hours ago? That's not even a UTC / local time fuckup, you're still off by one hour if it were that!
I am confuse...
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@timebandit said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
No idea what the issue is or why it only happens sometimes.
It's an hardware issue, of course
Don't laugh.
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@luhmann said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Update killed all virtual applications made with VMWare Thinstall ... again ...
Obviously. VMware is the evil competitor. The answer is Hyper-V!