I hate printers, with a passion
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@boomzilla said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Idiot or paid troll? My favorite part is "just have to pay for new ink which is cheaper" - couldn't be further from truth. Not to mention perishable ink is itself bullshit.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@boomzilla said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Idiot or paid troll? My favorite part is "just have to pay for new ink which is cheaper" - couldn't be further from truth. Not to mention perishable ink is itself bullshit.
It tastes a bit funny after a few years but its still drinkable.
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@DogsB I had a few incidents in grade school after which I ended up with a mouthful of ink. Do not recommend. Also, one time a friend stabbed me with a pen so hard I started bleeding. The teacher refused to let me go to the nurse because she thought it's paint.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@boomzilla said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Idiot or paid troll? My favorite part is "just have to pay for new ink which is cheaper" - couldn't be further from truth. Not to mention perishable ink is itself bullshit.
I switched to laser-jet, and haven't looked back. They're only slightly more expensive, if at all, and don't have the same ink situation or nearly the same level of lying and exploitation.
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@xaade And are much cheaper on a per-page basis, and tend to be much more reliable generally. And faster to print. Well, unless you want a color laser. In which case, . I've got a Brother B&W laser all-in-one that's churned along nicely.
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The only thing I don't understand is how, in a world where you can easily buy a cheap knockoff car tyre, a cheap knockoff LCD monitor, a cheap knockoff robot vacuum, a cheap knockoff a cheap knockoff dishwasher, and a cheap knockoff fingerprint door lock, there's still no such thing as a cheap knockoff printer with cheap ink.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
there's still no such thing as a cheap knockoff printer with cheap ink.
Technically not entirely an answer to the question as asked, but many brand-name printers are the cheap variety — or at least, sold at unprofitable margins (if not at a loss) because the ink sales will make up for it.
You can buy cheap ink, no problem. What is frequently a problem is getting your printer to accept that particular flavour instead of the one its manufacturer approves.
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@Gurth I'm not buying that one either. After 30 seconds I found a drone on Amazon for $40 with very good reviews. How much more expensive can printers be to make compared to drones?
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@Benjamin-Hall said in I hate printers, with a passion:
And are much cheaper on a per-page basis
It's true - the laser printer at work costs me much less to use than the inkjet I used to have at home did
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@loopback0 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Benjamin-Hall said in I hate printers, with a passion:
And are much cheaper on a per-page basis
It's true - the laser printer at work costs me much less to use than the inkjet I used to have at home did
That's been my approach. And now they haven't allowed me to go to the office for the past 19 months.
There is no causal relation between these two facts.
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You can't print on CDs with laser, and you can't print photo-quality photos on photo paper with laser. Then again, nobody does either of those things anymore anyway.
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@Gąska Unlike the drone, the printer needs to handle rectangular sheets of paper, 0.08mm thick, without wrinkling them, and taking them out of the stack one at a time. All this without eyeballs.
I'd place the technical difficulty on par with automatically navigating pedestrian-less streets, rather than clawing through empty airspace under manual guidance.
It'd be different if it were still OK to use continuous stationery. Because that's much easier. But modern A4 copier paper just requires the printer manufacturer to have done their research, and they still have to license some patents.
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@TwelveBaud said in I hate printers, with a passion:
You can't print on CDs with laser
There were these CD-RW drives, back when burning CDs was still a thing, that did exactly that. After the normal burning process, you'd flip the CD over, put it back into the drive, and fire up the label-print function.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@TwelveBaud said in I hate printers, with a passion:
You can't print on CDs with laser
There were these CD-RW drives, back when burning CDs was still a thing, that did exactly that. After the normal burning process, you'd flip the CD over, put it back into the drive, and fire up the label-print function.
I have one of those still. Works really nicely. But I'm almost out of media. Of course, at the rate I'm using it, I should have enough for the next couple decades.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
license some patents
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
paper
Good $deity, you need a license to make paper?!
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@TwelveBaud said in I hate printers, with a passion:
You can't print on CDs with laser
There were these CD-RW drives, back when burning CDs was still a thing, that did exactly that. After the normal burning process, you'd flip the CD over, put it back into the drive, and fire up the label-print function.
I had one of the ones that would burn text and/or artwork into the unused space on the data side. (DiscT@2)
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
license some patents
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
paper
Good $deity, you need a license to make paper?!
I wonder why HP doesn't have a printer that only works with Original HP Certified Paper™ that it orders online at 20€ a ream whenever the tray drops below 75% full. Or maybe they do and I'm just too pissed off by all this to pay much attention.
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@LaoC said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
license some patents
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
paper
Good $deity, you need a license to make paper?!
I wonder why HP doesn't have a printer that only works with Original HP Certified Paper™ that it orders online at 20€ a ream whenever the tray drops below 75% full. Or maybe they do and I'm just too pissed off by all this to pay much attention.
I think the only reason is that there's no actual difference. But the printer certainly badgers you every time you open the tray about it...
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@LaoC this?
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It's not always cyan.
The famous Cyan-Mayo-Yellow-Ketchup color system.
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@LaoC Somebody is already on the phone to solve this:
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@Gurth don't know what that's a reference to, but it makes me wonder if the Dutch watch Pappa Ante Portas.
Filed under: "Mein Name ist Lohse, ich kaufe hier ein."
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gurth don't know what that's a reference to
It's from the film Airplane. That's a doctor who works at the Mayo Clinic.
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@LaoC said in I hate printers, with a passion:
It's not always cyan.
The famous Cyan-Mayo-Yellow-Ketchup color system.
Ketchup, Mayo, Mustard, Cyanide.
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@Gąska Pen, Pineapple, Apple, Pen?
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Edit:
The famous
CyanCilantro-Mayo-Yellow-Ketchup color system.
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@Zerosquare Life hack: If you run out of yellow ink, you can refill it with 18 year old scotch and save some money.
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If it were back in black i'd consider buying it.
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Also, when I got the cyan cartridge out I could literally hear that there was still ink in it. So I tried to just put the same one in at first, but the printer wasn't to be fooled and firmly stated it's empty.
Well, this is how much blue ink I got to dribble out of the empty cartridge:
Printer manufactures are literally scum, somewhere below Goldman Sachs bankers and maybe slightly above African dictators.
Ehh looks pretty empty to me. Also it's your own fault for using inkjets. How did you not switch over to a laser yet?
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@dangeRuss , is that you?
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@topspin No, was much more entertaining.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@TwelveBaud said in I hate printers, with a passion:
You can't print on CDs with laser
There were these CD-RW drives, back when burning CDs was still a thing, that did exactly that. After the normal burning process, you'd flip the CD over, put it back into the drive, and fire up the label-print function.
The optical drive in my computer is LightScribe capable (it's got the logo right on it), but I've never seen any LightScribe disks
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Recently an HR person for one of our clients got the absolute galaxy brain idea that to get new hires up and running at 100% she would print an initial run of business cards for them to use until their cards come in from the printers.
We have been out there 5 times in the past couple of months to clear pretty major jams from their big workstation printer. When they go through the fuser one of the cards will come loose from the sheet and jam itself into the fuser rollers, requiring a not insignificant amount of disassembly to clear the jam.
We have told her multiple times to either stop doing this or to do it on one of the many desktop printers they have around the office so that when (not if) this happens she isn't fucking over the whole office.
Today was the 5th time and I called the owner and explained the deal to him and that if it happens again this will have to be a separate billable event and not covered under the flat fee contract. We have a general "You hired morons" out built into the contracts just to cover repeated preventable and unnecessary service calls like this.
Anyone want to start a pool on when call #6 is?
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@DogsB said in I hate printers, with a passion:
If it were back in black i'd consider buying it.
No love for 'Thunderstruck'? Or 'It's a Long Way To The Top'? 'T.N.T'? 'She's Got Balls'? 'Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution'? 'Big Balls'?
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@hungrier said in I hate printers, with a passion:
The optical drive in my computer is LightScribe capable (it's got the logo right on it), but I've never seen any LightScribe disks
I still have a couple. (glances) Oh, an entire 50pack spindle!
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@Polygeekery said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Anyone want to start a pool on when call #6 is?
Did it happen yet?
Now?
Oh, we need to wait for a new hire first I guess...
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@Polygeekery said in I hate printers, with a passion:
one of the cards will come loose from the sheet
There's this wonderful thing called "cardstock" that business cards are sometimes made of, that won't have this problem. While it's true that individual cards can no longer be readily detached by hand, there's another wonderful thing called a "paper guillotine" that turns cardstock into cards quickly and easily. Perhaps the next time the business suffers an unfortunate printer event that costs him enough to buy 20 paper guillotines and a lifetime supply of cardstock, the owner will demonstrate their use... on her fingers.
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@TwelveBaud This is what happens when you jam the yakuza’s printer one too many times.
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@Polygeekery said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@DogsB said in I hate printers, with a passion:
If it were back in black i'd consider buying it.
No love for 'Thunderstruck'? Or 'It's a Long Way To The Top'? 'T.N.T'? 'She's Got Balls'? 'Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution'? 'Big Balls'?
It was the only one I could think of that got me close to a printer pun.
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@Polygeekery said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Recently an HR person for one of our clients got the absolute galaxy brain idea that to get new hires up and running at 100% she would print an initial run of business cards for them to use until their cards come in from the printers.
It's not a completely horrible idea, but they should also be able to get professionally printed ones before the newbies get through the new employee paperwork and training videos.
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@Parody How many new hires actually need business cards at all, much less in the few days, at most, before they arrive from the printer? In a 30+ year career, I've probably not given out a business card in a professional setting (as opposed to being a convenient place to write my personal phone number for a new friend/acquaintance) more than once or twice. Most jobs, I never even had cards.
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Yeah, but you're not in marketing, sales or management.
("Thank God, no" reply coming in 3... 2... 1...)
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Parody How many new hires actually need business cards at all, much less in the few days, at most, before they arrive from the printer? In a 30+ year career, I've probably not given out a business card in a professional setting (as opposed to being a convenient place to write my personal phone number for a new friend/acquaintance) more than once or twice. Most jobs, I never even had cards.
I haven't had cards since a job that ended in 2008. I'm on my 4th job since then.
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@Zerosquare This has to be fake.
A real printer would not be so polite about it, and it would end the message with "see you in Hell".