UI Bites
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@loopback0 said in UI Bites:
@error welcome to Salesforce.
I'm in training.
How much pain is in store for me?
Less than AEM but still pain. Looks a lot better on a corpo contractor CV though.
Might be thinking of something else but do they still insist on going through the apis instead of direct access to the data for migrations?
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@loopback0 said in UI Bites:
@error welcome to Salesforce.
I'm in training.
How much pain is in store for me?
Less than AEM but still pain. Looks a lot better on a corpo contractor CV though.
Might be thinking of something else but do they still insist on going through the apis instead of direct access to the data for migrations?
The API is the most direct that access to data gets on SF.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
How much pain is in store for me?
Observe the similarity between and .
They are broken?
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@topspin the systems that are in any way sane about this often do expose the actual time as a timestamp on hover. Not ideal though.
It does actually show on hover. I found out about that after searching how to change it.
Discoverable!
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Based on the relevant Lounge thread,
I'm not finding the thread in question. I'm guessing it has a very SEO friendly title like @Gribnit's Adventures at WTFCorp.
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finding the thread
I've always found it strange that non-public categories are missing from the categories ListBox in the search options page. I could understand if it's hidden for anonymous, but not for logged-in folks.
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I'm not finding the thread in question.
Remember, you said:
@error said in UI Bites:I'm in training.
How much pain is in store for me?
You know perfectly well where the Kink thread is.
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Based on the relevant Lounge thread,
I'm not finding the thread in question. I'm guessing it has a very SEO friendly title like @Gribnit's Adventures at WTFCorp.
Does it matter whether the thread has an SEO friendly title if the search doesn’t work?
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
I'm not finding the thread in question.
Remember, you said:
@error said in UI Bites:I'm in training.
How much pain is in store for me?
You know perfectly well where the Kink thread is.
I was trying to be subtle and avoid the K word while playing on the “there will be pain and it won’t be the fun kind” experience of Salesfarce.
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I was trying to be subtle
I thought it was about as subtle as Wile E. Coyote's anvil falling out of the sky, but if the person who was supposed to get it ed, .
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
I was trying to be subtle
I thought it was about as subtle as Wile E. Coyote's anvil falling out of the sky, but if the person who was supposed to get it ed, .
I am a dumb.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
I was trying to be subtle
I thought it was about as subtle as Wile E. Coyote's anvil falling out of the sky, but if the person who was supposed to get it ed, .
I am a dumb.
No kink shaming from us!
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
I was trying to be subtle
I thought it was about as subtle as Wile E. Coyote's anvil falling out of the sky, but if the person who was supposed to get it ed, .
I am a dumb.
No kink shaming from us!
Except for those who “enjoy” Salesforce.
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German Railways: would you like to cancel or cancel your seat reservation?
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At least you can guess what the first option does, based on the second one. It's still bad UI, but a bit less ambiguous than the usual "continue / cancel" choice where there's no clue about whether they mean the original action or its cancellation.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
At least you can guess what the first option does, based on the second one. It's still bad UI, but a bit less ambiguous than the usual "continue / cancel" choice where there's no clue about whether they mean the original action or its cancellation.
Bonus : this gobbledygook of 3 languages is what you get when your phone is set to Italian.
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status: apparently I can still be the first to comment despite there being 24 comments!
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your phone is set to Italian.
But why? You deserve what you get if you do that.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
your phone is set to Italian.
But why?
You like your phone to underline it's responses with hand gestures?
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Jira and Teams have decided to be the Laurel&Hardy of the Workocalypse with the Jira Bot for Teams!
It offers to add a "Jira tab". I don't know what that is but I've eaten stag beetles and grilled maggots so bring it on! Says it needs permissions so I have to log in to the MS account I've been logged in to the whole time anyway. When I log in, I get back to the same screen asking for the permissions I thought I'd just granted. The only other option is "don't grant now", and clicking it brings up this beauty:
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In very old versions of Firefox, there was the "page info" dialog available via a menu entry. In later versions, it was missing.
Then I happened to press CTRLi, and that dialog popped up in current longterm support version of Firefox. Though I still fail to find it in the menu.
Why am I interested in that dialog?
Well, I am fed up with all those animated images - they usually distract from the contents of the page, and it's mostly annoying ads anyways. So I switched all animations off, as much as it is possible in Firefox.
But occasionally, an animation should be shown. Now I can open that dialog, select the image, and it is displayed with animation. Still works.
But why tf is the dialog hidden so well?
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@BernieTheBernie said in UI Bites:
In very old versions of Firefox, there was the "page info" dialog available via a menu entry. In later versions, it was missing.
Then I happened to press CTRLi, and that dialog popped up in current longterm support version of Firefox. Though I still fail to find it in the menu.
You're missing this?
I mean, that isn't from a long-term support version, but that shouldn't make a difference, right?
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@BernieTheBernie I'm so used to always using Ctrl+I I hadn't even realized it is basically unfindable in the UI. But for what it's worth, if you tap Alt the regular menu will come up and then you can find it here:
Edit: , of course.
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if you tap Alt the regular menu will come up
What the fun! I always looked for the items in the hamburger menu, where it does not exist.
Hiding the main menu, just to show it in the top bar of the window on pressing ALT is another .
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@topspin the systems that are in any way sane about this often do expose the actual time as a timestamp on hover. Not ideal though.
Would be better the other way around IMO
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@BernieTheBernie said in UI Bites:
Hiding the main menu, just to show it in the top bar of the window on pressing ALT is another .
Still better than hiding it and
nitnot showing it on pressing alt. Thankfully, on mac I don't have to deal with that shit as there's always a menu bar.Another thing that's impossible to find is the take a screenshot option. It apparently is only in the context menu when you right-click inside the page itself, not anywhere in the extras or developer menu, not in the hamburger shit.
The whole hambuger menu idea was stupid to begin with. Fucking Google.
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@topspin I've never looked for the screenshot option in menus, but found it by accident when trying to bring up Windows snipping tool
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@BernieTheBernie said in UI Bites:
Hiding the main menu, just to show it in the top bar of the window on pressing ALT is another .
There is an option to change that... (r-click on header area, check 'Menu Bar')
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Fucking Google.
Eww. Even @Tsaukpaetra has higher standards than that. Maybe.
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Still better than hiding it and nit showing it on pressing alt. Thankfully, on mac I don't have to deal with that shit as there's always a menu bar.
Don’t forget, though, to press ⌥ when you’re looking for something you suspect there to be in a menu you have open, just to make sure you’re not missing any options. The only thing that should appear if you do that are alternatives to the ones that are already there (like changing “Close tab” to “Close other tabs”) but you never know, somebody may have hidden an entire option by marking it as an alternative.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
Fucking Google.
Eww. Even @Tsaukpaetra has higher standards than that. Maybe.
We fuck with each other. It's gotten to the point I don't think even Google can tell who is gaslighting who.
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The whole hambuger menu idea was stupid to begin with. Fucking Google.
Fuck
mobile frist
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@BernieTheBernie said in UI Bites:
Hiding the main menu, just to show it in the top bar of the window on pressing ALT is another .
There is an option to change that... (r-click on header area, check 'Menu Bar')
I forgot about that. It was so long ago, but I do recall now that the first thing I would have done would have been to turn off the Bookmarks toolbar; the "show menu toolbar" option would have been there as well.
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@loopback0
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@loopback0
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Apple's visionOS allows for a cute exploit: manipulate a website, and the user sees cute spiders in his home. . Or bats flying around.
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Why, oh, why are Microsoft Office applications so annoying?
Say I have some .docx files open in Word. Then I minimize them all. Then I go to open a completely separate .docx file that isn't already open. Word un-minimizes one of the already open windows, brings it to focus (i.e. on top of all my other open windows from other programs), and then opens a new window with the file I wanted. I had wanted all the other .docx files to stay minimized.
LibreOffice Writer does exactly what I wanted. Minimized windows/files stay minimized, even when I open another window with a different file.
(Of course, if I (re-)open a file that's already open, both Word and Writer will restore the window that has that file already open, as I expected).
This behavioral difference also exists in Excel/Calc, Powerpoint/Impress, and probably also Visio/Draw and Access/Base.
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Why, oh, why are Microsoft Office applications so annoying?
Say I have some .docx files open in Word. Then I minimize them all. Then I go to open a completely separate .docx file that isn't already open. Word un-minimizes one of the already open windows, brings it to focus (i.e. on top of all my other open windows from other programs), and then opens a new window with the file I wanted. I had wanted all the other .docx files to stay minimized.
LibreOffice Writer does exactly what I wanted. Minimized windows/files stay minimized, even when I open another window with a different file.
(Of course, if I (re-)open a file that's already open, both Word and Writer will restore the window that has that file already open, as I expected).
This behavioral difference also exists in Excel/Calc, Powerpoint/Impress, and probably also Visio/Draw and Access/Base.
Your minimized files are right where Microsoft thinks they belong now.
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Why, oh, why are Microsoft Office applications so annoying?
Technically? I believe it is because during the switch from MDI to SDI mode, the Office programmers did the easy thing and kept one of the Windows as the main program, which during invocation will be raised to handle a cross-process message, whereas the OpenOffice folks has the invoked process not be a window that can be raised. 🤔
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@Tsaukpaetra I don't think Microsoft Office ever used MDI.
Rather I think it is simply a mistake in the activation code that got . On Windows the window messages double as the general purpose inter-process communication mechanism, so they almost certainly send a window message to the first window. But activating it (which brings unminimizes it) is a mistake that certainly could be avoided, they just didn't bother fixing it.
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@Tsaukpaetra I don't think Microsoft Office ever used MDI.
Excel was the poster child for MDI!
Poking around the web tells me that the first (Windows) version of each Office application that wasn't MDI (or didn't default to looking like MDI) was:
- Word 2000
- Excel 2013 (maybe 2010)
- Powerpoint 2013 (maybe 2010)
- Access 2010 (It's a one-database-per-process program, but the subwindows floated by default until 2010.)
- Publisher XP/2002? (I don't think Publisher allowed multiple open documents until then; in 2003 it looks like MDI-faking-SDI.)
Some of the Office programs that default to looking SDI have a setting to show each document separately on the Taskbar. Turning that off may revert the program to looking MDI. I don't have a wide selection of Ribbony Office versions for verification.
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