A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted
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@boomzilla I did see an ad for furry NFTs at fine arts gallery e621. So the intersection is there. Interestingly enough, I have only see the ad once and never more. Hmm...
Although, they may have misunderstood their market. Furries tends to have a fursona, or at least an image of how they would want to look as an anthro animal. Buying ugly autogenerated ranom pictures would go against that idea. Although I am also not deep enough in the community to know how common buying characters are, I know some artists puts up characters for sale at least.
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@Atazhaia I think NFTs can be normal art, same as any other digital image. They don't all have to be auto generated lion pictures
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@Atazhaia said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Furries tends to have a fursona
And they probably want it to be unique to them, and won't be willing to trade it for someone else's.
I'd almost risk saying it's not fungible.
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@Zecc Hence the "do not steal" part of "original character"?
OTOH, furries like to have their character(s) appear in other furries' pictures (as long as they're not on the receiving end of something nasty, I guess). It's more art of the character, so anything that's not bad is good.
I'm sure the NFT bros would disapprove of someone making "fan art" of their shiny new auto-generated lion... Assuming anyone would want to.
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@Atazhaia I assume the NFTs actually prove copyright ownership, if they do anything at all. So in a sense he does "own" the image in that he has the copyright of it.
But he also uploaded it to his twitter profile and agreed to twitter's terms and conditions, which will probably give twitter the right to his soul and his first-born, but unless twitter's lawyers are complete morons will at least give twitter the right to use the uploaded images on their site (while requiring that he has the copyright in the first place so he can even give them permission).
Strictly speaking, that doesn't give the other guy permission to use the image any further. He already had the implicit permission to save it by using twitter, but that's for thedemon spawnslawyers to figure out.
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@topspin said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
He/Him. Writer. Father. Absurdist.
Ohhhh, that's where @gribnit went.
And:
Pronouns in bio to piss you off.
:seal-of-approval:
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@topspin said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
I assume the NFTs actually prove copyright ownership
Not necessarily. You see, the beautiful thing abut NFTs is that they don't have to include copyright of the item in question. It's just a pointer to one instance of a digital item. Anything added to that is just extras.
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@Atazhaia said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It's just a pointer to one instance of a digital item.
It doesn't include a guarantee that the pointer resolves (e.g., the DNS registration could lapse), or that the pointer will continue to point to the same thing it used to, or that nobody without the pointer will be able to get the resource, or that someone who has gained access to the resource by any means will be able to tell that someone has an NFT to it. As an ownership mechanism, it's utterly terrible.
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- Upload the same image at separate URLs
- Generate an NFT on each
- Sell to suckers
- Profit!
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@dkf said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
As an ownership mechanism, it's utterly terrible.
I assume it relies on most people buying an
NTFNFT being unaware of this.
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@loopback0 I have to ask, what's a non-tungible foken?
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@loopback0 I have to ask, what's a non-tungible foken?
As long as there's someone buying it, does it really matter at this point?
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@topspin it might. What if they could buy it and make it tungible? Won't someone think of the consequences of tungible fokens?!?!
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Won't someone think of the consequences of tungible fokens?!?!
No more so than anyone thinks about the rest of this nonsense
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Won't someone think of the consequences of tungible fokens?!?!
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Won't someone think
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@HardwareGeek is there a blue shape in one of those things that says "Better use Thunderbird"?
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@Atazhaia said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Buying ugly autogenerated random pictures would go against that idea.
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@loopback0 I have to ask, what's a non-tungible foken?
You got it wrong.
It anon-tokenable fungus
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@BernieTheBernie said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
It a non-tok
enable fungus.inb4 E_WRONG_
PLANTKINGDOM
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@ixvedeusi something something another castle?
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@ixvedeusi Well, we do have an expert on tokes . I'm sure he can find a tokable fungus for you.
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@Arantor said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek is there a blue shape in one of those things that says "Better use Thunderbird"?
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@Zecc said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
I wish I had a way of generating excuses like that.
But... no dice.
Everyone knows excuses come from a calendar, not from dice.
Like this one:
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@loopback0 for once there's a bright side to this: anyone who does this will go bankrupt from hiring scam artists pretty quickly.
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Celebrity NFTs Risk ‘Catastrophic Failure.’ Just Ask John Cena
Tokens from Grimes and A$AP Rocky fall, leaving buyers with losses
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@Zerosquare said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
leaving buyers with losses
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@Zerosquare said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Celebrity NFTs Risk ‘Catastrophic Failure.’ Just Ask John Cena
Tokens from Grimes and A$AP Rocky fall, leaving buyers with losses
Lower link: https://twitter.com/moxie/status/1455234282872471555
EDIT: I guess this could also have gone in the "whateververse" thread, but since it's related to crypto...
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I think this means the bubble is about to pop...
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Can this Tether thing implode already, please, and take all this stupid bullshit with it?
Seriously.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Can this Tether thing implode already, please, and take all this stupid bullshit with it?
Seriously.
Would be nice, alas … the falling rate of profit (AKA long-term low-interest environment) has been driving tons of capital into speculative assets for decades, and much more forcefully since 2008. The derivatives boom was crazy already, but not crazy and volatile enough, so along came crypto. When it pops, don't expect it to be replaced by something saner.
I think it will take a while, we're not at the "too big to fail" level yet.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Can this Tether thing implode already, please, and take all this stupid bullshit with it?
Seriously.
I've been waiting for Uber stock to tank for an age now. No such luck. I suspect something is propping them up to prevent the house of cards from falling.
Wtf is active/passive voice?
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Someone had to do it, although who would admit to having that much furry art?
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Canadian teen steal not-really-money
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@TimeBandit said in A fool and his not-really-money are soon parted:
Canadian teen steal not-really-money
And if he'd succeeded, he still have not-really-money.
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@DogsB 20 Terabytes??
How is there already so much NFT crap as to fill 20TB??
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@Medinoc You could do an NFT to an archive of all NFTs…
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@Medinoc I thought it could be a dynamically generated "file" of all possible NFTs, but admittedly I haven't done any math to calculate how big that would have to be; or even learn what size an NFT is.
Edit: or in this case links to wherever.