Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne
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Aye-Eighteen-Anne
Do people actually pronounce
n
asanne
? Shirley it'sen
in any standard accent?
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@jaloopa said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Aye-Eighteen-Anne
Do people actually pronounce
n
asanne
?I know people pronounce Anne as "N", so there's that.
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@jaloopa I wondered what on earth the title was about. I figured I, but N never occurred to me. Even though I know about the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon.
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@zecc said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I know people pronounce Anne as "N", so there's that.
Ah, I hadn't thought of the other way round. You Yanks and your weird vowels
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@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@jaloopa I wondered what on earth the title was about. I figured I, but N never occurred to me. Even though I know about the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon.
(Looks up) (lighthouse lights up) !!!
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@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@jaloopa I wondered what on earth the title was about. I figured I, but N never occurred to me. Even though I know about the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon.
(Looks up) (lighthouse lights up) !!!
me too. I had much confusion. I was missing the I as well.
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@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon
I live in the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon, but it never occurred to me that anyone would pronounce "Anne" as "N". I understood the title, of course, but as "sounds similar," not "sounds the same."
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
It never occurred to me that anyone would pronounce "Anne" as "N".
I caused some shock when I explained to some USAliens that Kerry is not a variant spelling of my name. (One of them calls me Carrie Berry as a pet name, and since she is an online friend and I only 'speak' to her in text it only took about a year for it to occur to me that she probably pronounces it approximately like Carey Beary.)
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@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
she probably pronounces it approximately like Carey Beary.
I'm not sure how else one would pronounce it. /ˈkɑːr.iː/ (car - ee)? (FWIW, my ex-wife pronounces her name /ˈkɛər.iː/ (care - ee).)
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@hardwaregeek I don't know the phonetics, but it's a very short
a
like inback
,ca-ree
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@jaloopa said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
it's a very short a like in back, ca-ree
"Back" in RP or GA? Those are two different sounds, although there is enough variation that they overlap. /ka.riː/? /kæ.riː/? /keə.riː/?
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@hardwaregeek Without some sort of guide to what the æ, eə etc. symbols mean, I couldn't say. RP though. GA would be a similar but longer sound?
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
"Back" in RP or GA? Those are two different sounds, although there is enough variation that they overlap. /ka.riː/? /kæ.riː/? /keə.riː/?
I'm not very familiar with the IPA but so far as I can work out, in British pronunciation:
Carrie is /ka.riː/
Kerry is probably /ke.riː/ and Berry rhymes exactly.
Care is /kæ.r/ and bear rhymes exactly.
I'm not at all sure how /keə.riː/ would sound.
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@jaloopa
æ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel.ogg
a: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Open_front_unrounded_vowel.ogg
eə: Not a single sound, but a glide from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Close-mid_front_unrounded_vowel.ogg to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mid-central_vowel.ogg
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What does the title mean?
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@adynathos said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
What does the title mean?
Paypal doesn't know how to do I18N.
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@adynathos said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
What does the title mean?
Paypal doesn't know how to do I18N.
And for those who don't know what that means (first, CLUE BAT!, then):
I
<18 characters>n
==Internationalization
.
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@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
And for those who don't know what that means
Why would anyone who doesn't know what that means be reading TDWTF?
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
And for those who don't know what that means
Why would anyone who doesn't know what that means be reading TDWTF?
There are a few who have admitted to simply using a computer, rather than abusing it...
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@dcon There's always
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
but as "sounds similar," not "sounds the same."
Yeah, internal pronunciation didn't sound close to i18n to me...
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
And for those who don't know what that means
Why would anyone who doesn't know what that means be reading TDWTF?
I was reading it long before I knew what it meant, but only dared to post after I knew what it meant.
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@jaloopa said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@zecc said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I know people pronounce Anne as "N", so there's that.
Ah, I hadn't thought of the other way round. You Yanks and your weird vowels
Who are you calling a Yank?
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@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
It never occurred to me that anyone would pronounce "Anne" as "N".
I caused some shock when I explained to some USAliens that Kerry is not a variant spelling of my name. (One of them calls me Carrie Berry as a pet name, and since she is an online friend and I only 'speak' to her in text it only took about a year for it to occur to me that she probably pronounces it approximately like Carey Beary.)
I know people who insist that Erin and Aaron are pronounced differently, but I don't bother.
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
And for those who don't know what that means
Why would anyone who doesn't know what that means be reading TDWTF?
What if we won't admit we know what it means for nationalistic trolling purposes?
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@gąska said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@steve_the_cynic Windows switched fully to proper UTF-16 in Vista.
There's nothing proper about UTF-16. It's basically the worst of both worlds.
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I live in the North American Vowel Mush phenomenon, but it never occurred to me that anyone would pronounce "Anne" as "N".
Ann "The Librarian" Withers – 04:39
— Studio C
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@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Who are you calling a Yank?
In Argentina, everyone from the USA is a yanqui. I knew a guy from Georgia who had a real problem with that...
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@masonwheeler said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Who are you calling a Yank?
In Argentina, everyone from the USA is a yanqui. I knew a guy from Georgia who had a real problem with that...
So?
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@boomzilla (Would this be more relevant if you knew that in Spanish,
qu
is pronounced ask
?)
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@masonwheeler said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla (Would this be more relevant if you knew that in Spanish,
qu
is pronounced ask
?)I do know that, but no. Anyways, what's America got to do with it?
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@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@masonwheeler said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla (Would this be more relevant if you knew that in Spanish,
qu
is pronounced ask
?)I do know that, but no. Anyways, what's America got to do with it?
That would be more the Georgia part.
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@dcon I guess it's a good thing he isn't Armenian…
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@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I know people who insist that Erin and Aaron are pronounced differently
They are???
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I know people who insist that Erin and Aaron are pronounced differently
They are???
Probably the difference between "Air-in" and "heir-en"...
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@tsaukpaetra said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Well, damn.
Alright, canned response 6B1a received. Replying with...
I'm not talking about unauthorized activity and the message was not spoofing PayPal, as per the original question, this was an email claiming accounts that are discovered to have been created before the account holder was 18 years of age, regardless of account standing or longevity, were being obliterated.
Is this correct?
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
/ˈkɛər.iː/ (care - ee)
Those two don’t represent the same pronunciation. “Care” is /kær/, while /kɛə/ would be an e as in “bed” followed by an “uh”-sound, kind of making it two syllables.
@carrievs said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Kerry is probably /ke.riː/
/‘kɛ.riː/
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the company is going to reimburse my travel expenses. Their only payment option is Paypal.
Well this is the real WTF here. What kind of company would do this?
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@dcon said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@masonwheeler said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla (Would this be more relevant if you knew that in Spanish,
qu
is pronounced ask
?)I do know that, but no. Anyways, what's America got to do with it?
That would be more the Georgia part.
Only if you've completely missed the context of my original statement.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@boomzilla said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I know people who insist that Erin and Aaron are pronounced differently
They are???
Probably the difference between "Air-in" and "heir-en"...
Yeah, something like that, except more of a short a sound instead of "air."
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@hardwaregeek said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@benjamin-hall said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
I still use python which has (had? but mostly fixed?) huge issues with unicode.
Python 3 uses UTF-8 by default. If you're stuck maintaining legacy Python 2 applications, you have my profound sympathy. If you're writing new Python 2 applications, .
There's still no full support for python3 in a lot of the libraries AFAIK.
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@jaloopa @carrievs @dcon @benjamin-hall @hardwaregeek @adynathos @Tsaukpaetra
So much complaining, and no suggestion what other pun I could make that would work better. Also, it doesn't help that I'm genuinely one of those people:@zecc said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@jaloopa said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Aye-Eighteen-Anne
Do people actually pronounce
n
asanne
?I know people pronounce Anne as "N", so there's that.
#JustESLThings
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@gąska said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
So much complaining, and no suggestion what other pun I could make that would work better.
It worked ok. I got it. I was just remarking that it never occurred to me that anyone would pronounce it identically. As for ESL, I'm far more likely to cut y'all slack regarding pronunciation, grammar, etc. than native speakers who ought to know better.
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Side-note: turns out #JustESLThings on Twitter is mostly complaining about poor organization of CSGO tournaments.
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@gąska said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
what other pun I could make that would work better
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@gąska said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Side-note: turns out #JustESLThings on Twitter is mostly complaining about poor organization of CSGO tournaments.
CSGO? Is that a word in one of your Eastern European languages that can't afford enough vowels?
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@boomzilla yes. Specifically, it's Russian for "Call of Duty".
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@tsaukpaetra said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Alright, canned response 6B1a received.
Sweet! Canned response 6B1b received.
Looks like that's the end of it, they won't confirm or deny the cancellation of accounts discovered to have been created before the age of 18.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
@tsaukpaetra said in Paypal and the Aye-Eighteen-Anne:
Alright, canned response 6B1a received.
Sweet! Canned response 6B1b received.
Looks like that's the end of it, they won't confirm or deny the cancellation of accounts discovered to have been created before the age of 18.
Escalate this to a supervisor. This woman clearly should not work anywhere more complicated than fast food.