Internet of shit
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
Forget all these comparisons, just
floor(x + rand())
Somebody did a late update so I looked again at this. What you write is conceptually the same, but a bit more expensive to implement. The other way tends to fuse nicely with surrounding instructions on ARM, especially the weird multiplies used for fixed width math. Provided you have a really cheap RNG.
I've spent entirely too much time looking at this. My (former) colleagues have too.
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@The_Quiet_One Is it livestreaming the current washing program?
But, yeah, , why is it constantly (except around 14:00) uploading stuff?
Edit: But, also, WhyTF would you connect your washing machine to the internet in the first place?
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@The_Quiet_One Is it livestreaming the current washing program?
"the current drum position is 7387.257. The rotational speech is 36.935. I have been idle for....."
Every 100ms.
With memory dumps?
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@izzion said in Internet of shit:
@The_Quiet_One said in Internet of shit:
Of upload traffic, natch!
Encrypted, of course.
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@PleegWat said in Internet of shit:
@izzion said in Internet of shit:
@The_Quiet_One said in Internet of shit:
Of upload traffic, natch!
EncryptedMining crypto, of course.
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@Zerosquare Do other brands upload even more telemetrics data to their masters in West Chukotka?
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25 separate vulnerabilities on a single device available for ransoming your runny nuts!
Bosch. How do you want to be 0wnd today?
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a popular smart nutrunner (pneumatic torque wrench) used in automotive production lines. We demonstrate that these vulnerabilities could make it possible to implant ransomware on the device
Ransomware on a wrench??? It's a %*!(@*%#
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@LaoC linked an article in Internet of shit that concerned:
popular smart nutrunner (pneumatic torque wrench)
Warum, kurwa? Just warum?
Thinking about it a bit more, was Spirit Aerosystems by any chance using them? That'd give them a good excuse why they didn't tighten those bolts properly (the last video mentioned the loose bolts were not the castle ones that hold the door shut instead of the locking lever, but the ones that hold the hinge on the door, and those don't seem to be lockwired, just highly tightened).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rd2-sTw4AM
I think I just found a show I might be very interested in. But this is adorable and I want one!
Could you imagine an ancient-days Internet of Shit but with creatures?
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...Naturally I will probably watch this now and find out this was a one-scene gag.
Edit: And of course the thirsty comments have cringe. Delectable.
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@LaoC There's also no "Enter" key.
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@cvi just enter by the open window
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC There's also no "Enter" key.
It doesn’t say to press it on that device, though. Any random, unconnected, computer keyboard that happens to be lying nearby will probably be enough, seeing as how this device can detect open windows as well.
Although … Given the accuracy with which it apparently detects open windows, maybe you’d better hope it’s a bit better at detecting keypresses on nearby keyboards.
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@cvi And you're supposed to press it for ten seconds? How often can you say "are you really sure?" in that time?
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@pcooper I wonder .. when in time did that start making any sense? Like, if you had to explain to somebody 40-50 years ago that somebody would use 3 million toothbrushes to attack a company (remotely!) and cause millions in damage, they'd probably think you're high on something. And that's pretty much the best case. I'm not sure I would have believed that headline 20 years ago (internet connected toothbrushes? you crazy?). But 10 years ago? Seems plausible. I wouldn't be sure why my toothbrush needs to talk to the interwebs, but that hasn't really changed since.
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@Gustav said in Internet of shit:
@boomzilla said in Internet of shit:
Video and bulletized summary at the link.
Yep. That pretty well summarizes it.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
Close the pod bay
doorwindow, Hal.
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
@Gern_Blaanston said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
Close the pod bay
doorwindow,HalDave.²
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@Watson said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
@Gern_Blaanston said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
Close the pod bay
doorwindow,HalDave.²
404 Dave's not here, man!
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
I wouldn't be sure why my toothbrush needs to talk to the interwebs
Really?
Of course it must be internetz connected.
It must be able to send you a reminder to brush your teeth.
And to buy a new brush (brand name included).
And to buy tooth paste (brand name included).
And to use more of the tooth paste per brushing.
And to threaten you to inform your dental health insurance about your non-compliance.
And to suggest a dentist to you for your next treatment.
And ...
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@BernieTheBernie If it did any of that, I would carefully consider. Instead it just slurps one's habits and sells it to advertisers (and/or those, who have guessed the credentials), and wears down the non-replaceable battery faster.
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@Applied-Mediocrity Do you think I described something else than very intrusive threatening advertisments?
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@BernieTheBernie I'm sorry, I was on Earth-51 for a moment. Back now
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@pcooper said in Internet of shit:
This is a bit of telephone game. Aargauer Zeitung quoted some security guy with a completely hypothetical scenario and the article was mangled a bit by the anti-paywall site they seem to have used to compose the article on golem.de and in the end it sounded totally real when tomshardware picked it up. It's not. I don't think anyone has been crazy enough to put wifi hardware in a toothbrush, they're BT at worst.
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@LaoC https://www.evowera.com/en/html/mini_person.html claims to support actual Wi-Fi connectivity (but you have to turn BlueTooth on first for some reason - the FAQ even goes into whether to use the 2.4GHz or 5GHz band…)
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
I don't think anyone has been crazy enough to put wifi hardware in a toothbrush, they're BT at worst.
You are underestimating crazy. It ain't XIX century any more, it is 2020.4!
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
in a toothbrush, they're BT at worst.
If your T is still B after brushing, it’s not a very good toothbrush.
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@Atazhaia said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
in a toothbrush, they're BT at worst.
If your T is still B after brushing, it’s not a very good toothbrush.
Could be worse, like teethy pee iPee.
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
This is a bit of telephone game. Aargauer Zeitung
They just corrected it:
There's some weapons grade bullshit typical of AV vendors in the original already, which I hadn't even read because I went right to the linked source.
Like "upgrade your firmware". The problem is not "hackers scanning devices". If a hacker scans your toothbrush in your firewalled home network, it's via another infected device you have already, and then the toothbrush doesn't even matter any more. If you want to hack not just the handful of toothbrushes owned by people whose networks you have infiltrated already but 3 million at once, the only practical way is a supply chain attack—infect the firmware or their update server and wait for the dental-security-conscious user to update.
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
infect the firmware or their update server
Their telemetry server is a valuable target, too.
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Was it a penetration test? Does it backdoor your system? We'll never know, but "VegetableLuck" would have been luckier with vegetables.
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@LaoC you could have left the link...
yep, definitely malware. I love how the moderator basically said "Normally we'd delete these because this is a no-tech-support forum, but with how many nerds you got to go 'ooooOOOOOoooh, shiny!' I'll let it slide."
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
Was it a penetration test? Does it backdoor your system? We'll never know, but "VegetableLuck" would have been luckier with vegetables.
From the replies:
Of course that's a thing
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@Dragoon That's what you get for using infernet-connected devices. Long live dumb home!
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https://www.androidpolice.com/smart-devices-poor-investment/
Pikachu comes at you with lightning speed!
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@topspin Ah, so it seems Lotus finally found its mission after selling Notes? If anything should be authenticated by the infamous sphincterprint …
It probably comes with Genuine People Personality™, too.
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@LaoC all we're waiting for now is the rebrand to Sirius Cybernetic Corporation.
I was going to make some crack about IBM but apparently an Indian company maintains The Software Formerly Known As Lotus these days.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
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@Gurth is that a picture of the notepaper that one writes Lotus Notes on?
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Could you really control someone's hot water with just an email address?
(Yes. They did.)
...Just a reminder to never under any circumstances connect your home-anything to the Internet.